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SPL
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Bericht door SPL » do aug 30, 2007 7:06 pm

Just wanted to add that we did under sell players until Van Geel took over.
Zlatan and VD Vaart went very cheaply( incidently I think we get another £2m from Juve tomorrow with the remainder next August)

The bosmans of 2006 summer ie Trabelsi, Maxwell,De Jong( we got £500000 for him which was nothing)Pienaar must not be repeated but Grygera has now gone for nothing.(I believe he would have gone last summer but for Juve being relegated then he got injured early season for a couple of months)

Babel's price and Sneijder's are very good as both have gone to hugh clubs.Had Van Geel taken over a couple of years earlier then the Bosmans sales mentioned above would not have happened.

I think we will get good prices in future for KJH, Heitinga and Urby ,probably next summer. Maduro really is strange as at present we would get about 5m euros minimum but they have not extended his contact so come Jan. he will go for next to nothing.


The point of the above is to show that under Van Geel we will get good money for players but buying in I am not sure about.Luque is shown as unknown but could be about 7/8m euros which is a joke for an injury prone
near 30 year old.KJH was a bargin of course and I have a feeling we will
do well with Suarez.

Turning to our future our youth system contains nearly all Dutch kids which is great but there does not seem to be any goal scorers coming through.
Brouwer, last seasons leading A1 scorer joined Liverpool as we were not prepared to offer him a contract!!

Do you think we should be looking to include more foreigners in our youth squads ie look beyond Belgium for instance?? Most lads come from a radius of 30 kilometers from Amsterdam , perhaps this is not enough!

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Bericht door aveslacker » do aug 30, 2007 7:20 pm

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Bericht door bryan » do aug 30, 2007 8:59 pm

I think the youth systems needs to be reexamined. It produces too many ball jugglers and not enough match winners. Ajax is not a circus.

I think it was Ko who on AT5 once said that the youth system should concentrate on strength and fitness as well. Seeing that the likes of Brugge, Kopenhagen and Slavia seem to be running our players off the park all the time that would make sense.

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Bericht door Venezuelan Ajacied » vr aug 31, 2007 7:40 pm

K.J. Huntelaar schreef:Apparently ajax sent 22mio € offer for Modrič which was denied by dinamo Zagreb. According to croatian newspaper. He' s one of the greatest young players out there IMO, so...
Now this is a good example of what we should do...i believe Modric has a 10 !!!!! yeah 10 year contract with the club. We need to stop signing people for 3-4 years....we all knew Babel was going to be good, we all knew Sneijder was going to be new yet we signed them and somewhat short contracts.....we should sign larger 6-7 year contracts when the player still wants to stay and while the top clubs are not hunting for them...i believe that is the key.
BRING IT ON !!!!...

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Bericht door cdnajaxfan » vr aug 31, 2007 7:50 pm

Venezuelan Ajacied schreef:
K.J. Huntelaar schreef:Apparently ajax sent 22mio € offer for Modrič which was denied by dinamo Zagreb. According to croatian newspaper. He' s one of the greatest young players out there IMO, so...
They probably knew that UEFA was going to set us up against them so they kept him just to screw us over. There is a UEFA conpiracy against Ajax, I am now convinced of it!

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Bericht door cdnajaxfan » vr aug 31, 2007 7:54 pm

SPL schreef:
Do you think we should be looking to include more foreigners in our youth squads ie look beyond Belgium for instance?? Most lads come from a radius of 30 kilometers from Amsterdam , perhaps this is not enough!
Definitely we should. All of our Belgians have been big busts including the current one in our squad who sent us out of the CL last year with an own-goal. We need to improve Ajax Capetown and scout better in Africa and S. America as well.

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Bericht door pizza 5 » vr aug 31, 2007 11:14 pm

Talking to a mate of mine who follows Newcastle.He says Loque is lazy,overwight,arrogant,overrated,over paid,and usually injured..........He should fit right in....
Don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows.....

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Bericht door SoCal Ajacied » za sep 01, 2007 12:52 am

maybe van geel is out to destroy ajax... i wonder how much AZ paid him
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Bericht door Manneken Pis » za sep 01, 2007 3:46 pm

SoCal Ajacied schreef:maybe van geel is out to destroy ajax... i wonder how much AZ paid him
And yet he seemed to be doing a great job at P$V.
Their infrastructure/organisation must be much better....
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Bericht door carcajou » za sep 01, 2007 6:48 pm

Manneken Pis schreef:
SoCal Ajacied schreef:maybe van geel is out to destroy ajax... i wonder how much AZ paid him
And yet he seemed to be doing a great job at P$V.
Their infrastructure/organisation must be much better....
Van Gaal? Van Geel? This is confusing...
meh :|

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Bericht door ZoefdeHaas » do sep 06, 2007 10:43 am

Ajax apparently want Aissati for 3.5m euros....abit small so PSV are believed to be holding out a 13m euro price tag...abit too much.

i'd say 5m.
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Bericht door paladinby » do sep 06, 2007 5:53 pm

i read on some russian-languaged forum that Aissati's transfer collapsed because of our CL fuck-up....

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Bericht door bluedaddy19 » za sep 08, 2007 4:25 pm

we need to go get cska moscow man daniel carvalho in january, he is the only appropriate replacement for wesley
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Bericht door Van basten » ma okt 01, 2007 12:55 pm

Acording to ajaxnetwerk, we're interested in Yassine Chikhaoui (21). He plays in FC Zurich at the moment

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Bericht door Jeroen126 » ma okt 01, 2007 2:10 pm

Van basten schreef:Acording to ajaxnetwerk, we're interested in Yassine Chikhaoui (21). He plays in FC Zurich at the moment
Never heard of the bloke, but some major French and English teams are watching him as well, so he looks like a quality player.

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Bericht door Van basten » ma okt 01, 2007 2:52 pm

Joeska schreef:
Van basten schreef:Acording to ajaxnetwerk, we're interested in Yassine Chikhaoui (21). He plays in FC Zurich at the moment
Never heard of the bloke, but some major French and English teams are watching him as well, so he looks like a quality player.
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Bericht door Kowalczyk » ma okt 01, 2007 3:41 pm

Joeska schreef:
Van basten schreef:Acording to ajaxnetwerk, we're interested in Yassine Chikhaoui (21). He plays in FC Zurich at the moment
Never heard of the bloke [...]
Yeah, and that's a very good thing. No-one had ever heard of Litmanen, Chivu, Maxwell or Trabelsi when we signed them.

For some reason our worst buys were expensive, established players: Kinkladze, Santos, Sonck - and a few others.

There are exceptions to the rule, of course, but in general we're better at finding quality nobody's than at luring established superstars to Amsterdam.

K.
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Bericht door Philippe » ma okt 01, 2007 4:51 pm

always look at the bright side :icon_razz.gif:
Appie, stay strong !

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Bericht door Jeroen126 » ma okt 01, 2007 4:55 pm

Kowalczyk schreef:
Joeska schreef:
Van basten schreef:Acording to ajaxnetwerk, we're interested in Yassine Chikhaoui (21). He plays in FC Zurich at the moment
Never heard of the bloke [...]
Yeah, and that's a very good thing. No-one had ever heard of Litmanen, Chivu, Maxwell or Trabelsi when we signed them.

For some reason our worst buys were expensive, established players: Kinkladze, Santos, Sonck - and a few others.

There are exceptions to the rule, of course, but in general we're better at finding quality nobody's than at luring established superstars to Amsterdam.

K.
Although Zlatan and the Laudrups were well known players, i have to agree that we have to try and scout some unknown talent. The players mentioned above ( the unknown ones) were all diamonds in the rough, and that's what we should be looking for. Your average Messi is not heading for Amsterdam in a million years.

Edit: Looks good on youtube, but the past has proved that's absolutely nothing to go by.

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Bericht door Van basten » ma okt 01, 2007 7:39 pm

Kowalczyk schreef:
Joeska schreef:
Van basten schreef:Acording to ajaxnetwerk, we're interested in Yassine Chikhaoui (21). He plays in FC Zurich at the moment
Never heard of the bloke [...]
Yeah, and that's a very good thing. No-one had ever heard of Litmanen, Chivu, Maxwell or Trabelsi when we signed them.

For some reason our worst buys were expensive, established players: Kinkladze, Santos, Sonck - and a few others.

There are exceptions to the rule, of course, but in general we're better at finding quality nobody's than at luring established superstars to Amsterdam.

K.
When playing for Ajax Amsterdam, as a substitute he once received a red card after 19 seconds of playing in the match against PSV Eindhoven on December 19, 1996. That's still the fastest red card for a substitute in Holland. :smallgrin.gif:

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Bericht door ofey » di okt 02, 2007 10:48 am

I'm hopeful about this Yassine Chikhaoui bloke. He's actually been mentioned around some English teams and he's a relatively unknown quantity. What I like most is his size. He looks like a guy you'd take into a fight. We do need abit of physical presence.

I think in general, our scouting network has gone abit. Does anyone know what's happened in the last 5 years? Why aren't we uncovering foreign gems any longer? I have an Ajax DVD which shows some Ajax scouts going to Africa to scout for talent. Are we still doing that?

It's pretty obvious if we don't have the financial might to out bid Chelski, MU, Real and Barca, we need to have a top notch scouting network to bring in the Litmanen, Chivu, Trabelsi and Maxwell type players.

Here's looking forward to the next Litmanen!! :ajaxscarf.gif:
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Bericht door SPL » di okt 02, 2007 2:25 pm

It does appear that most of the time the only place outside Holland our scouts get to is Belgium!!Well just over the border to Antwerp to be precise. (sorry Antwerpen to give its proper flemish name)

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Bericht door Michael_B » di okt 02, 2007 2:35 pm

Our scouting hasn't got worse (it already sucked). The bigger clubs are scouting better now and buying young players like Teves, Mascherano, Robinho, Messi, Fabregas etc etc etc younger and younger.
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Bericht door carcajou » di okt 02, 2007 9:36 pm

De Dominee schreef:Our scouting hasn't got worse (it already sucked). The bigger clubs are scouting better now and buying young players like Teves, Mascherano, Robinho, Messi, Fabregas etc etc etc younger and younger.
Tevez, Mascherano and Robinho don't really qualify as "scouted" players though, as they had already made it big on the international stage before they came to Europe.
meh :|

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Bericht door Philippe » wo okt 03, 2007 8:32 am

Mind you the best scouting is with the serie A clubs that commonly find new talents in some small club in the Nederlands called Ajax. :smallgrin.gif:
Appie, stay strong !

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