Voorbereiding seizoen 2010/2011

[Wie kent Cees de Wolf nog]

En Ajax wint met 0-7.

[Lionel]

We wordennnnnn kampioen!

[Thijs]

What the fuck, moeten jullie eens kijken op Ajax.nl!

En dan de 'eerste pagina', dus voordat je naar de homepage gaat. Het lijkt wel of ik op chelsea.com zit!

[LucaS]

Wat een affiche!

[InnerHarbour]

Het grapje is zo langzamerhand wel uitgemolken hoor.

[brigade zuid]

Identiteitscrisis?

http://www.ajax.nl/

[GangstaRiB]

Die godvergeten PR machine van Ajax. Dat is één van de redenen waarom Ajax Ajax niet meer is.

[Pride of Amsterdam]

Tsja... aan de ene kant zeggen dat Ajax weer mee moet gaan tellen in Europa, om vervolgens bij een oefenpotje je website aan te passen aan de tegenstander alsof we fc bal op het dak zijn die voor het eerst in de historie profvoetballers (jaja mensen, deze toppers worden zelfs betááld om te voetballen) op bezoek krijgen.

Nee... zo gaan we echt weer meedoen. (niet dat we meetellen als we onze website wel Ajax-minded houden hoor...) Maar een beetje zelfrespect zou geen kwaad kunnen.

[Scherrer]

Brrr, Ajax maakt zich wel heel erg klein zo. Wat is dat Chelsea nou helemaal? Hoe vaak hebben zij de Champions League gewonnen? Landstitels?

Genant gewoon, deze houding van de club.

[GangstaRiB]

Brrr, Ajax maakt zich wel heel erg klein zo. Wat is dat Chelsea nou helemaal? Hoe vaak hebben zij de Champions League gewonnen? Landstitels?

Genant gewoon, deze houding van de club.

Maar zie je die PR kutjes al zitten tijdens zo'n brainstorm sessie? Die weten helemaal niet wat een Ajacied denkt, die denken alleen maar vanuit hun eigen denkbeelden die voornamelijk gebaseerd zullen zijn op het NK allround in Heerenveen.

[joey]

Azijnzeikerds.

[999]

Kan nog leuk worden met die WK gangers, als ze niet verkocht worden zijn ze over een wedstrijdje of vijftien wel opgebrand ..

[Daily Blind]

Dit slaat idd echt alles. Ik wist trouwens niet dat Rood de 2de kleur was van Chelsea. Raar dat ze niet gelijk alles blauw maken.

Geef Ajax zijn gezicht terug!

Mooi aanvallend voetbal, arrogantie, bluf, Ajax is en blijft de beste. Niks zien we meer terug. We spelen dramatisch voetbal, winnen niks meer, het logo is dramatisch, en de PR campagnes, website en de enorm slechte filmpjes worden met de dag van een treuriger niveau.

Goed bezig van der Aat.

[Ajaciedjuh]

ARNESEN ON AJAX
Posted on: Thu 22 Jul 2010

There are few non-Dutchmen with a better insight into Dutch football than Chelsea's sporting director Frank Arnesen. Ahead of Friday's match in Amsterdam, Chelseafc.com taps into the former Ajax captain's knowledge...

The idea that Ajax supporters could be concerned about losing their manager to Fulham would have been a laughable back when Frank Arnesen first signed for the club from the Dutch capital. There was no chance either that anyone would have been tempted to move from Ajax to Chelsea in 1975.

Ajax had already won three European Cups that decade and were renowned for a brand of football admired around the globe. They were the most revered club side of the time.

Big changes in football regulations and economics since have seen many clubs take higher billing on the European stage and even at home the Amsterdam club have gone six seasons without winning their domestic league.

However when asked if his former club will provide strong opposition on Friday for the next stage of Chelsea's tuning up for the season to come, sporting director Arnesen is in no doubt at all.

'Ajax started their pre-season earlier because they are playing a Champions League qualifier next week and that is very important for them,' he tells the Official Chelsea Website.

'So they will be much further on than we are with their preparations and they will have more of their players than us because they didn't have so many playing in the World Cup, so it will be a very good game for us.

'It is not easy for Ajax not being as successful as they once were and that is why they have been frustrated and they have done a lot of things to try to get it right,' Arnesen adds.

'Maybe they didn't get everything right and the problem is sometimes when it is going bad, everybody seems to know how to do it and then you can't get everybody in the same boat. They are going in different directions.

'But now with Martin Jol there in charge for one year it is improving and they played extremely well the last half of last season, scoring a lot of goals. FC Twente were unbelievable winning so many games 1-0 that they clinched the title in the end, but I think that Ajax will be big favourites to win the championship in Holland this year.'

Arnesen is not alone in choosing Luis Suarez and Gregory Van der Wiel (pictured below) as their two most important players at the moment. The Uruguay striker, who was second top scorer in the Dutch league last season with 22 goals, and the Dutch right-back in the World Cup Final returned to training on Wednesday so look unlikely to feature on Friday, despite the proximity of the important European game next Wednesday.

Gregory Van der Wiel

But Arnesen believes there are other emerging talents there and should his prediction for next season prove accurate, it would make it 30 league titles over the 110-year history of Holland's most successful club, the golden era without doubt the late '60s/early '70s period.

That was when coach Rinus Michels and star player Johan Cruyff inspired a team of quality to take the game to new aesthetic heights, but not without plenty of silverware won as well.

It was as a famous team beginning to dismantle when a teenage Arnesen arrived from Denmark.

'I was 18 years old and it was a dream come true. I had some interest from clubs in Germany and Belgium and it was amateur football in Denmark at the time so you didn't get money but you didn't have transfers either - so you could just go.

'So there were a lot of clubs from Holland, Belgium and Germany who were focused on players from Scandinavia and we were not afraid to leave even when we were young.

'I came to Ajax in 1975 so it was just after they won the European Cup in 1971, '72 and '73, and they had not only won but they had introduced "Total Football".'

'Rinus Michels was the founder of it and he was the one who signed me. I was one of the youngest going out of Denmark at that stage and I went to Ajax with Soren Lerby who was my friend and he was a year younger, only 17.

'It was amazing to come into that squad. There were still five of the squad who won all three of the European trophies, and had played the 1974 World Cup Final - Ruud Krol, Wim Suurbier - the goalkeeper Heinz Stuy who played the three finals without conceding a goal, Gerrie Muhren and Barry Hulshoff.

'But Cruyff was gone, Arie Haan (pictured below) was gone, Piet Keizer had just stopped the month before, Johan Neeskens had gone, Johnny Rep had gone.'

arie_haan_ajax

After three games in the reserves the new midfielder from Copenhagen was into the first team but because of his age, he didn't feel under pressure to immediately replace some of the most famous names in world football. He did however encounter a testing environment and is in no doubt that was important to the immense Ajax success.

'It was still a big, big club and the way you got treated was that you are here because you are a good player and here you have to win. Losing was not an option. It was a fantastic development for me and I stayed there for five and a half years.

'You never got a pat on the back if you played well. It was only when you got things wrong that you heard from the players. They were the ones who developed you and it had been going from player to player since the '60s.

'If you asked why people were not positive they would say it is not personal and it doesn't matter how we tell you, you just listen and do it. The day we are not talking to you it is because we have lost faith in you. I thought a little bit about that and then you get on with it and you got used to that.

'In the five seasons I played we were three times champions and four times in the cup final although we only won the Double the first year.'

Arnesen succeeded individually as well, becoming the second non-Dutchman to captain Ajax. He had taken on board a philosophy in which losing was not an option, and nor was playing unattractive football.

Though they wouldn't dominate Europe to the same extent as the Cruyff era again, Ajax won the Champions League in 1995 with a largely home-grown team (pictured below). By this time Arnesen was technical director at big rivals PSV Eindhoven.

ajax

Ajax reached the final again in 1996 but haven't done since.

It is no coincidence that 1995 was also the year of the Bosman ruling that among other changes to the sport, wiped out restrictions on numbers of non-nationals in club sides throughout Europe.

'From that moment the biggest clubs could take the biggest players. That is the biggest change from when I played at Ajax,' observes Arnesen.

'Before Bosman, when I went from Ajax to Valencia, they were only allowed two foreign players at Spanish clubs. In Holland it was different, you were there for two years and then you were counted as Dutch, and in Belgium it was five years so this why in the '70s and the '80s, Ajax and Anderlecht from Belgium who I also played for did so well. Anderlecht went to the Uefa Cup Final twice.

'After Bosman the rich countries came in and took their players. We are still in a period when Ajax is a big club in a small country. They have a problem with the economy because the second tier in England - the Championship - gets more money from TV than Holland's highest level.

'But Ajax is still a great club and you can never take away the history. They have won the European Cup four times which is tremendous for a club like this.'


In the second part of the interview tomorrow, Arnesen discusses the famous Ajax youth academy and how it has impacted on modern day Barcelona and the way the Chelsea Academy currently operates. He also discusses the stadium in which Chelsea will play on Friday.

Friday's match at the Amsterdam ArenA will be live on Chelsea TV and Chelsea TV Online from 4.30pm.

[joey]

Kan nog leuk worden met die WK gangers, als ze niet verkocht worden zijn ze over een wedstrijdje of vijftien wel opgebrand ..

Ajaxlife meldt dat Suarez naar Barcelona is voor de bevalling van zijn vrouw en nog niet weet wanneer hij terugkomt. Dat kan wel maandag worden.

[Ajaciedjuh]

Inleiden die boel of een keizersnee. Dicht naaien en Suarez weer terug.

[Scherrer]

Kan nog leuk worden met die WK gangers, als ze niet verkocht worden zijn ze over een wedstrijdje of vijftien wel opgebrand ..

Ajaxlife meldt dat Suarez naar Barcelona is voor de bevalling van zijn vrouw en nog niet weet wanneer hij terugkomt. Dat kan wel maandag worden.

Prima, toch? Laat hem nog maar wat extra dagen rust pakken. Dan zit hij ruim 2 weken geen voetbal wanneer hij maandag weer gaat trainen. Als hij straks 60 minuten mee kan doen tegen PAOK vind ik het allang prima.

[Michael_B]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz5LZFU4y60

Hier beelden Rijnburgse Boys - Ajax. Prachtige goal van Suk, die eerste.

[Lionel]

Wanneer begint de kaartverkoop voor de JC-schaal?

[Michael_B]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz5LZFU4y60

Hier beelden Rijnburgse Boys - Ajax. Prachtige goal van Suk, die eerste.

Tweede van Suk is ook fraai, ook Aissati laat zien te kunnen scoren. Mist wel een piel. Laatste goal van Zeegelaar is ook mooi, zij het wat overbodig.

[joey]

Prima, toch? Laat hem nog maar wat extra dagen rust pakken. Dan zit hij ruim 2 weken geen voetbal wanneer hij maandag weer gaat trainen. Als hij straks 60 minuten mee kan doen tegen PAOK vind ik het allang prima.

Dat wordt toch niets? Twee weken uit training en doodop van die bevallingsperikelen.

[Bert]

Inleiden die boel of een keizersnee. Dicht naaien en Suarez weer terug.

Haha, hoe regelde Michels dat ook al weer?

[joey]

Kop houden en doortrainen. Wat nou, kind?

[brigade zuid]

Wanneer begint de kaartverkoop voor de JC-schaal?

die is al lang en breed begonnen.

[Ajaciedjuh]

Ik hoorde vanochtend op BNR radio in een interview met VD Boog het volgende: Ajax neemt zich voor om 2 weken voor het verstrijken van de deadline transferwindow, geen spelers meer te verkopen.

Dit zou een goede zaak zijn!