Other Eredivisie Teams

[Kowalczyk]

Not an Eredivisie side, but a First Division side, but still...

Newspaper Algemeen Dagblad and Sportweek magazine have just announced that FC Haarlem are now officially out of business. Club has folded. They will disapper from the league immediately.

The club was founded on October 1st, 1889. They were champions of The Netherlands in 1946 and won the Dutch Cup in 1902 and 1912.

Sad but true: this club could no longer exist. That's the bitter truth. Terrible news for the fans, though.

K.

[Kowalczyk]

Not an Eredivisie side, but a First Division side, but still...

Newspaper Algemeen Dagblad and Sportweek magazine have just announced that FC Haarlem are now officially out of business. Club has folded. They will disapper from the league immediately.

The club was founded on October 1st, 1889. They were champions of The Netherlands in 1946 and won the Dutch Cup in 1902 and 1912.

Sad but true: this club could no longer exist. That's the bitter truth. Terrible news for the fans, though.

K.

[Philippe]

I'm glad to read that the lightbulbs did not make a move to get Van Nistelrooy. I like them better without him

[Cedric]

Maybe they did but Van Nistelrooy didn't want to return there?

[SE6Ajacied]

Pretty quirky translation (automatic by Google) but this is a great little article on Haarlem "The Day After".


HFC Haarlem The Day After
"Somehow you hope it was a bad dream '

By: Iwan Tol
Published: yesterday 22:30
Update: Today 06:49

On the football office at bankrupt HFC Haarlem. "Think you to leave for the UWV, Johan?"

It appears that no achievement Böckling can provide access to the offices of his former club. The gates of the stadium are sealed on Tuesday after fans went souvenir hunting. Also Böckling must wait until an employee arrived Haarlem is saying that it is okay. The former striker comes along to secure old photos, but receives a zero in the petition. "They have all been taken and sealed. But I have to ask John whether he was for me an eye to keep. "

Johan is Johan Tempelaar, head of communications and PR of the club. Since Tuesday he is officially unemployed, but that awareness is still not completely understood. He stirs his coffee and says: "Somewhere, you hope that it was a bad dream. That you are at the club and everything in it is old. "

But the reality is different. Secretary Daniëlle Granneman, all 19 years at the club, asked him: "Do you just like to leave you, Johan? The UWV should know. "

Granneman is one of the fifty staff on the street have come to stand by the bankruptcy. The largest group of employees, the players, who have finished training last morning. Monday they will again meet for a drink and a buffet. That they now have to pay.

At the office of the club run at every turn people in: fans, players, volunteers. The doctor comes to retrieve belongings from the medical room, the announcer the boxes that he once lent to Haarlem. The parents of Johan Tempelaar came by to have their son as a heartening to stabbing. "That was pretty emotional," he says.

The love of Haarlem, he transferred to them. They were in turn by his grandfather and grandmother infected. And now? A job at another football club? Tempelaar has no idea. "It would anyway be a club that I have a feeling, just as in Haarlem. Maybe I'll go do something different. I'm still not. "

The next few days he must first secure the archives. He tells the widow of Gerrie Kleton who approached him. "She wanted the picture Gerrie we have hanging in the boardroom. For her, the piece that her husband lived on road now. That is a whole other kind of emotion. "

From his office overlooking curator Rocco Mulder on the snowy field. Mulder is also curator at the bankrupt Lekker van der Laan Dekker, a wholesaler of tobacco products. Haarlem has a turnover of two million, he calculates. Lekker van der Laan Dekker eight million. "But there it was NOS Journaal not on the sidewalk when the bankruptcy was declared. While there are still four hundred men on the street on them. "

Football is much more loose with the people, he noted. "Yesterday at half past two we gave a statement that it was about to Haarlem, a few hours later, fans began to break things off."

Interim manager Johan van Streun has there been just another interview of the day sit up. He looks remarkably cheerful for someone who in three hours slept. From Streun has an emergency-media training behind. A day earlier he was at NOVA ( "nice people there, very compassionate"), this morning he was a guest at Goodmorning Netherlands ( "With Sven") and in between his phone was red hot. He rests in the fate of Haarlem, although the club is officially one weeks in which to protest against bankruptcy. From Streun: "But that only makes sense if there is anything an investor from the log. But if one existed, we had already been met. "

Vain hope, know-old striker also Böckling. Besides the fastest goal ever, he will enter the history books because of another milestone: the benefit match for former Haarlem at Lucky Ajax he scored the last goal in the Haarlem Stadion. "But I can not say that I welcome."

For those who can read Dutch better than me the original is here http://www.depers.nl/sport/402639/Haarl ... after.html

[Kowalczyk]

After FC Haarlem, the next First Division side seems about to implode.

BV Veendam are about to go out of business. They're in debt and they seem to have run out of options.

The financial crisis has hit Dutch football hard. Insiders reckon BV Veendam won't be the last Dutch lower division side to go out of business.

K.

[GangstaRiB]

After FC Haarlem, the next First Division side seems about to implode.

BV Veendam are about to go out of business. They're in debt and they seem to have run out of options.

The financial crisis has hit Dutch football hard. Insiders reckon BV Veendam won't be the last Dutch lower division side to go out of business.

K.

Not only lower division teams are at risk, even at Eredivisie level, its becoming tough.

But what's up with other countries? In Spain they have an unemployment rate of 20% (!!) and we all know that clubs like Real, Barca and Valencia are hundreds of millions in debt! How much longer do those clubs remain unaffected?! When will the bomb drop in that kind of competitions? The only "healthy" competition seems to be the Premier League where they recieve enormous TV-money.

[Orange14]

But what's up with other countries? In Spain they have an unemployment rate of 20% (!!) and we all know that clubs like Real, Barca and Valencia are hundreds of millions in debt! How much longer do those clubs remain unaffected?! When will the bomb drop in that kind of competitions? The only "healthy" competition seems to be the Premier League where they recieve enormous TV-money.

The EPL is not immune to these problems. Portsmouth is teetering on the edge of going insolvent and have only a few days to make good on the debts. It may not matter much as they are at the bottom of the table and any points deduction will lock them in to going down. Liverpool can't buy any players as the owners have over leveraged. Arsenal are plagued by the mortgage on their stadium. Man U stays afloat despite the owners stealing money from the team (it's too weird to try to explain). West Ham have just had to settle a wrongful dismissal suit with their former manager and have lots of debt because of the Icelandic bank debacle (former owners were from that country). Lesser clubs have TV money but the high cost of remaining competitive is challenging. The only real clubs that have no problem are those run by the sugar daddies (Chelsea and Man City). When the current TV contract comes up for renewal, I don't think things may become challenging.

I don't know too much about the Italian league's finances but some teams appear to be in trouble there as well. It is my understanding that most if not all the Bundesliga teams are solvent; I don't know about the lower division there. The day of reckoning is here and it will only get worse before it gets better.

[SPL]

In Germany I believe Schalke have debts and a year or 2 a go so did Dortmund .

In the EPL the amount of debts are a farce. Man u £700m Liverpool about £300m Arsenal £400m .

Liverpool and Manu are a result of being taken over by Americans who did not have the money to buy them and took out hugh loans which are secured against the clubs . Arsenals debt is a mortgage on building the new ground.

Portsmouth a lovely old club are in financial meltdown and have had 4 different owners this season .
I cannot understand how the Premiership allows clubs to be bought by overseas people who do not have the capital !!!!

Back to Holland it does look as if Veendam will be out of business soon.

Mind there is a big Dutch team losing millions at present ie ourselves but the sale of Suarez and V d Wiel plus getting rid of a load of over paid tossers will put that right .
Sadly for the Haarlems and Veendams that is not possible.

[Orange14]

Mind there is a big Dutch team losing millions at present ie ourselves but the sale of Suarez and V d Wiel plus getting rid of a load of over paid tossers will put that right .
Sadly for the Haarlems and Veendams that is not possible.

I think our friends down in Rotterdam are in serious financial shape and it is only the fear of what would happen if they were placed in administration that keeps this from happening (and I don't mean Sparta)!

[SPL]

Yes I read in an english mag the F word were over 30m in the red.

I only mentioned us because we reported a 9m loss on the last six months but that is not the same as being in a hugh debt.

[Kowalczyk]

Jupiler League (a.k.a. First Division) update...

De Graafschap seem to be on their way back to the Eredivisie. For many months it was a very tight affair at the top of the table, but De Graafschap are now accelerating...

Top 5 looks like this at the moment:

1. De Graafschap: 28-60 (56-23)
2. Go Ahead Eagles: 27-53 (44-20)
3. FC Zwolle: 28-51 (44-29)
4. SC Cambuur Leeuwarden: 25-47 (53-39)
5. Excelsior: 27-46 (51-36)

Not over yet, but De Graafschap have created a bit of a gap in recent weeks.

K.

[Van basten]

Come one NEC!

[Kowalczyk]

Fucking hell, Twente once again score in the dying minutes... 2-1 against NEC.

Unbelievable.

K.

[SPL]

sod em yet another late goal win .We now have 9 games to catch them and I am not sure we will .
They will finish 2nd again get knocked out of the CL at qualifying and worse Riaz will be sold, Stoich goes back to Chelsea and N'Kufo is probably going to retire so their front 3 will all go this summer and I predict the Twente bubble will burst next season .

[Cedric]

I think a lot of people already announced that before this season, they sold Elia, they got this annoying Ruiz and Stoch...
N'Kufo will join an american team.

[Orange14]

King of the 1 goal victories are Twente. 12 of their wins by 1. Didn't bother to look to see how many of them were scored in the final 10 minutes but probably a fair number. It's annoying but that's life. We should not have dropped points earlier in the season and have nobody to blame but ourselves for the current predicament. Each week it gets more difficult but more amazing things have happened in this league during recent years. Maybe we will be the ones to find luck on our side by the time the fat lady has sung.

[Cedric]

In the Dutch zone someone said they won 5 times in last minutes.
Their goal difference is +27, Ajax +56...

[SPL]

We have given away some silly goals and dropped points where we should not have so yes we have ourselves to blame.

[Blind3]

A recent rumor here was that Blaise N'Kufo may join Seattle Sounders. If that were to happen , the club should take on sponsorship of an assisted living firm . What with N'Kufo joining Kasey "When I'm Sixty - Four " Keller.

[ajaxusa]

So I guess we want P$V to beat FC Twente, but a draw wouldn't be so bad either, eh?

[Orange14]

So I guess we want P$V to beat FC Twente, but a draw wouldn't be so bad either, eh?

I'm figuring that we win out (though the final match against NEC could be dodgy). If this comes to pass, Twente need 16 points out of a possible 21 to win since we convincingly win on goal differential against anyone else. I guess I prefer the to drop all three points as it may lead to the big choke down the stretch. They do have the most difficult schedule of the top three.

[Kowalczyk]

PSV vs Twente is being played right now.

A draw or a PSV win - both fine by me.

K.

[Cedric]

NVS 9 for those who wants to watch this game.

[Orange14]

Rather mediocre play on the part of both sides. PSV should be up 1-0 but missed two great opportunities. Lots of cheap give aways. You could fool me if you said these were 1&2 in the league right now. Pity we gave up points when we should not have early in the season.