New Players for Ajax

[orange goblin]

I would like de zeeuw, but I continue to think that we need more a central forward (yes also a CB but seems that after the onyewu affair jol will go on with oleguer-vertonghen-wielaert-alderweireld and eventually blind).
Crazy idea: what about takin care of the old mad mate mido hossam? he wants to leave middlesbrough, loves ajax, and as far as I know he had a good relationship with jol..once in a lifetime he had a feeling with a trainer or am I wrong and he could be only a problem for the dressing room?

[Amol]

I would like de zeeuw, but I continue to think that we need more a central forward (yes also a CB but seems that after the onyewu affair jol will go on with oleguer-vertonghen-wielaert-alderweireld and eventually blind).
Crazy idea: what about takin care of the old mad mate mido hossam? he wants to leave middlesbrough, loves ajax, and as far as I know he had a good relationship with jol..once in a lifetime he had a feeling with a trainer or am I wrong and he could be only a problem for the dressing room?

I would take Mido back in a heartbeat. I can't remember what year it was, but he kept Zlatan out for most of that season. He is a tall well built CF, who knows the Ajax system and is only 26 years old. I think he was sold because he didn't get along with Zlatan (I think he threatened him with a pair of scissors or something) and maybe VD Vaart (not sure if I remember this correctly).

Plus, its good to have one or two crazies in the team. This whole Ajax team right now is full of mamma's boys.

[The Purple Cow]

I think he was sold because he didn't get along with Zlatan (I think he threatened him with a pair of scissors or something) and maybe VD Vaart (not sure if I remember this correctly).

He threw a bandage razor into Zlatan's face in the dressing room at Celtic Park.

He didn't get on all that well with VdV, though it was Zlatan who was VdV's enemy number 1.

[aveslacker]

De Zeeuw? Why on earth would we need another midfielder? If Ajax are that set on wasting cash, then I suggest they forward it to me. Or use it to wipe their ass. Either one will suffice.

And I would as soon sleep on a bed of glass shards than see Mido back in Amsterdam.

[bryan]

Anyone who doesn't get on well with VdV is a good person in my book (yes, even Koeman... sometimes), but Mido is a complete and total parasite. I would sooner swim through shards of glass naked than see him back at Ajax. He had the potential to be a great player, but he totally wasted it.

Meanwhile, Kevin Doyle, the Irish Stefan Pettersson, has gone to Wolves for 6 million quid. There's a strong "balvast" striker that was signable, but will now not be playing for us.

[Van basten]

There's no chance that De Zeuw will come to Ajax. If he won't sign for a big club this summer, he'll better stay at AZ for one more season and a CL experience, than go to a 3d team of Eredivisie and play in uefa cup. We're again chasing players, which we don't have chance to sign.

[Michael_B]

Because you (ofcourse) have spoken to Demy de Zeeuw...

For your information: Jol has just declared that Ajax is indeed interested in De Zeeuw and that Demy want to move to Ajax very much himself.

[Venezuelan Ajacied]

i starting to believe that under Jol Ajax are going to play 3-6-1

[aveslacker]

Because you (ofcourse) have spoken to Demy de Zeeuw...

For your information: Jol has just declared that Ajax is indeed interested in De Zeeuw and that Demy want to move to Ajax very much himself.

Why on earth do we want to spend our finite resources on another midfielder?

I think it's great that he's interested in Ajax (assuming this is true), but that doesn't mean that Ajax should be interested in him.

[Orange14]

Because you (ofcourse) have spoken to Demy de Zeeuw...

For your information: Jol has just declared that Ajax is indeed interested in De Zeeuw and that Demy want to move to Ajax very much himself.

Why on earth do we want to spend our finite resources on another midfielder?

I think it's great that he's interested in Ajax (assuming this is true), but that doesn't mean that Ajax should be interested in him.

I agree with my neighbor across the river. What does De Zeeuw bring to this team that we are presently missing. It would be one thing if he was an attacking midfielder such as Sneijder but I'm not sure that he is any different than Vertonghen (assuming he plays mid and not on the back line), Enoh, Lindgren, Urby, etc., etc.

[SPL]

Well the current board do like wasting money on transfers
Stam cost 1m euros
Lindgren leaves for nothing 2 years later we pay 2.5m euros
Sno leaves for nothing , was only 18 at the time,comes back for 1m euros.
Pizzaman costs 300000 euros
and then of course there is Luque. Was it 6m euros we paid for him. I know he is on about 40000 euros per week .(when he signed £30000 p week was quoted which was then 40 000 euros) We wont let him go for free so we are back paying him since 1 st June which is 240000 euros in salary and he is training in Malaga.By the end of August we will have paid him 500000 in salary and we will then let him go!!!

De Zeeuw is a good midfielder but when you have a squad of 30 and half are midfielders this is just wasting money when we need a quality CB and striker.

As for Mido no thank you the man has been a waste fo space since we kicked him out and I cannot understand why clubs still want him.

[Cedric]

Why on earth do we want to spend our finite resources on another midfielder?

Maybe because Jol considers that De Zeeuw is not just "another" midfielder but a more experienced, more versatile, and overall better player than the midfielders he already have?

[SPL]

Just forgot to mention 16m euros on Sulejmani. Jol not satisfied with his condition is the headlines on the dutch sites today.

[martinkohout]

As for Mido no thank you the man has been a waste fo space since we kicked him out and I cannot understand why clubs still want him.

Yeah, I don't think I've read anything to indicate that his attitude has improved since he left. I think signing him would definitely be subtraction by addition, if you know what I mean.

What DID happen with Obradovic? Is he completely out of the question now?

[Amol]

As for Mido no thank you the man has been a waste fo space since we kicked him out and I cannot understand why clubs still want him.

Yeah, I don't think I've read anything to indicate that his attitude has improved since he left. I think signing him would definitely be subtraction by addition, if you know what I mean.

Alright I just read up old news and the events which I had forgotten. But we did win that one title because he was scoring like a mad man down the stretch.

Plus I guess I took Cedric_AEF's suggestion of 'your past not being an indicator of future performance' too seriously

[aveslacker]

Why on earth do we want to spend our finite resources on another midfielder?

Maybe because Jol considers that De Zeeuw is not just "another" midfielder but a more experienced, more versatile, and overall better player than the midfielders he already have?

Maybe he is. But considering we only have a certain amount of money to spend and greater needs elsewhere, why should we splash for De Zeeuw. How much better is he going to be in midfield than Enoh, Gabri, Lindgren or Anita? He might be an upgrade, but not nearly as much of one as a good center back would be.

[Cedric]

That's a good point, but is Ajax so much in trouble that they can't afford De Zeeuw and another defender?

Plus I guess I took Cedric_AEF's suggestion of 'your past not being an indicator of future performance' too seriously

I did not say that. The past is not guarantee, that's all. Otherwise, Mido would be in the same category as Zlatan.

[aveslacker]

That's a good point, but is Ajax so much in trouble that they can't afford De Zeeuw and another defender?

Plus I guess I took Cedric_AEF's suggestion of 'your past not being an indicator of future performance' too seriously

I did not say that. The past is not guarantee, that's all. Otherwise, Mido would be in the same category as Zlatan.

My point is that if they had the money to buy De Zeeuw and another defender, then they would be better off using that money on two defenders or a defender and a backup striker.

Midfield is the least of our concerns right now.

[bluedaddy19]

i'm beginning to think he has a couple of sales ready to go

[Van basten]

Because you (ofcourse) have spoken to Demy de Zeeuw...

For your information: Jol has just declared that Ajax is indeed interested in De Zeeuw and that Demy want to move to Ajax very much himself.

I'll believe when Demy will say that himself. Wouldn't mind to see him here, but then we should sell some defensive midfielders. But like i said before,this transfer is not gonna happen

[afcajax73]

i'm beginning to think he has a couple of sales ready to go

the thing is, i cant see who would want to buy anyone we have who should go and more to the point for a decent price,

cant see who will buy luque, colin, ogararu, silva should go, as should kennedy imo. also, why still hold on to rommedahl and sno ffs..

unless we can offload these for monster prices to real madrid then dont think we will get much from sales anyway which cant be good.

only player we could get decent money for right now is suarez!

[bluedaddy19]

the thing is, i cant see who would want to buy anyone we have who should go and more to the point for a decent price,

cant see who will buy luque, colin, ogararu, silva should go, as should kennedy imo. also, why still hold on to rommedahl and sno ffs..

unless we can offload these for monster prices to real madrid then dont think we will get much from sales anyway which cant be good.

only player we could get decent money for right now is suarez!

well sno has had interest and i'm pretty sure mallorca wants luque permanent

i want to keep either ogararu or bruno silva, and i kinda would like to keep rommedahl

[afcajax73]

the thing is, i cant see who would want to buy anyone we have who should go and more to the point for a decent price,

cant see who will buy luque, colin, ogararu, silva should go, as should kennedy imo. also, why still hold on to rommedahl and sno ffs..

unless we can offload these for monster prices to real madrid then dont think we will get much from sales anyway which cant be good.

only player we could get decent money for right now is suarez!

well sno has had interest and i'm pretty sure mallorca wants luque permanent

i want to keep either ogararu or bruno silva, and i kinda would like to keep rommedahl

i think its malaga who wants luque? but either way as long as he goes, then i dont care who to, i think if we had to keep either ogararu or silva, id prefer silva, but rommedahl i think can go, he only had his pace to offer, but now hes losing that he isnt much use to us,

[SPL]

Az have said that De Zeeuw wont be sold to Ajax but would only leave them for abroad.

[orange goblin]

I think we should not get rid of both kennedy and rommedahl. one of them should stay 'cause otherwise we dont'have a backup right winger and in a long season maybe sometimes we'll need it.
the same should be for ogararu and silva, but the first is out of grace (is with the reserves) and the second wants to play for gain is spot in uruguay national team: I say let go both of them, we can play wielaert and also gabri as a right back if van der wiel is injured or sospended.
as far as sno is concerned: something tells me that jol would try to "recover" him cause is one of the few physical players we have and has also a little experience. useful backup I hope.

personally, the players I would get rid of are: ogararu, silva, kennedy, plus loan donald and one between de jong and sarpong. zeegelaar seemed destined to ajax 2 but is training with first team.
this will reduce the squad to 25-26 members.which is fine.
to them I will add a central striker or at least a central back. 26-27 players,but many youngsters seems reasonable to me.

stekelenburg
vermeer
verhoeven

van der wiel
oleguer
vertonghen
atouba
wielaert
alderweireld
blind
emanuelson

gabri
aissati
enoh
anita
sno
lindgren
de jong or sarpong
van der heijden

suarez
X
sulejmani
rommedahl
cvitanich
zeegelaar
bodul