17 Dec 2008: Ajax - SK Slavia Praha

dws · Bericht door **dws** » wo dec 17, 2008 10:16 pm

Leo for Cvitanich.

Orange14 · Bericht door **Orange14** » wo dec 17, 2008 10:18 pm

Even on Iraq television feed, the crowd at the Arena are not too pleased with the team's performance!

Blind3 · Bericht door **Blind3** » wo dec 17, 2008 10:20 pm

This is bad enough to cause any self respecting Iraqi and Ajax supporters everywhere to throw shoes as a sign of disrespect and dissgust.

Ajaxfanuk · Bericht door **Ajaxfanuk** » wo dec 17, 2008 10:20 pm

we are beyond shit! we are gonna die against CL grade opponents next round on this display and i have grave fears about de graffschap and den haag in the coming weeks, the passing is soooooo bad its embaressing to watch

Amol · Bericht door **Amol** » wo dec 17, 2008 10:21 pm

Orange14 schreef:Even on Iraq television feed, the crowd at the Arena are not too pleased with the team's performance!

I think Blind needs a new pair of glasses

dws · Bericht door **dws** » wo dec 17, 2008 10:21 pm

Three times in quick succession we manage to pass to the touchline.

Amol · Bericht door **Amol** » wo dec 17, 2008 10:24 pm

dws schreef:Three times in quick succession we manage to pass to the touchline.

Wow - blast from the past - Vladimir Smicer

orange goblin · Bericht door **orange goblin** » wo dec 17, 2008 10:24 pm

ok, we are crap, but this referee is even crapper!

Venezuelan Ajacied · Bericht door **Venezuelan Ajacied** » wo dec 17, 2008 10:25 pm

the truth is that the team does not care about this game...thats what happens when you qualify ahead of time, its the same case for Aston Villa...i really dont know what to root for...if we score we finish in second.....if we loose by a bigger margin its going to be more frustrating

Orange14 · Bericht door **Orange14** » wo dec 17, 2008 10:29 pm

Venezuelan Ajacied schreef:the truth is that the team does not care about this game...thats what happens when you qualify ahead of time, its the same case for Aston Villa...i really dont know what to root for...if we score we finish in second.....if we loose by a bigger margin its going to be more frustrating

I get your point but MVB should have played a reserve team rather than this excuse of a first team!

Ajaxfanuk · Bericht door **Ajaxfanuk** » wo dec 17, 2008 10:32 pm

2- 2 suarez penalty a cheeky lil dink over the keeper

saddlerian · Bericht door **saddlerian** » wo dec 17, 2008 10:32 pm

so.....we're gonna finish 2nd.......OK, we're gonna play a CL dropout.... could have been worse........

could anyone tell me how, please?

orange goblin · Bericht door **orange goblin** » wo dec 17, 2008 10:32 pm

he gave the worst of the 4 penalties suarez gained..

dws · Bericht door **dws** » wo dec 17, 2008 10:32 pm

2:2 ... Suuuuuaaaaarreeeeezzzzzzzzz!!!!!!!!!

Amol · Bericht door **Amol** » wo dec 17, 2008 10:33 pm

Ajaxfanuk schreef:2- 2 suarez penalty a cheeky lil dink over the keeper

Wow - that was a totally shameless dive.

But he deserved one about 10 minutes ago which wasn't given.

Blind3 · Bericht door **Blind3** » wo dec 17, 2008 10:33 pm

Play for pride and for the shirt. Pride at not being embarassed in their own stadium. Where is the heart ? In Philly recently, the Flyers coach questioned the heart of his team when they were 5:1 down. He also said that the fans had driven thru awful weather to be entertained. And the team wasn't giving them their moneys worth. The Flyers showed heart and guts and won 6:5. Perhaps Van Basten should question his bunch of professionals.

Ajaxfanuk · Bericht door **Ajaxfanuk** » wo dec 17, 2008 10:37 pm

ok 2 - 2 2nd place for ajax as villa's reserves are getting demolished. CL opposition, its not great, im terrified, however im more disturbed by our performance we must seriously improve against De graff and ADO because we havent played that well since losing to AZ; utrecht, volendam and NAc were not brilliant performances, we've gotta win these last two league matches to have any chance of winning the title after the break

Blind3 · Bericht door **Blind3** » wo dec 17, 2008 10:44 pm

Glad for any result after this poor excuse for shite. Proof positive again that we need help in midfield and defense .

As for the not showing up mindset and the lackadaisical attitude , MvB needs to put his squad on notice well before Sunday at HT. I seem to recall less than stellar results v. De Graafschap and ADO Den Haag.

SPL · Bericht door **SPL** » wo dec 17, 2008 10:45 pm

Suarez should have been given the 1st penalty in the 2 nd half. The one with the goalie and the one given were not penalties. Apart from him trying to get a penalty that was it for most of our game. Piss poor performance.

If we get Elia I will be pleased but we still need a couple of really good defenders.

Venezuelan Ajacied · Bericht door **Venezuelan Ajacied** » wo dec 17, 2008 10:51 pm

Kowalczyk schreef:Okay. Here's the deal. If we win the group, we get a #3 from another UEFA Cup group. If we finish 3rd, we get a UEFA Cup group winner. We can't really say anything about those opponents yet, because there are still games to be played.

If we finish 2nd in the group, we face a #3 from a Champions League group, namely one of the following:

Girondins Bordeaux
Olympique Marseille
Werder Bremen
Shakhtar Donetsk
Aalborg
Fiorentina
Dinamo Kiev
Zenit St. Petersburg

I say: let's seriously try to win this group. Could be very important.

K.

ok so like always we fucked up so......who will it be ???? i dont like any of'em but i would prefer Bordeaux or AAlborg.....crap i really think we are fucked against this bunch

Blind3 · Bericht door **Blind3** » wo dec 17, 2008 10:55 pm

Seems about the best we can hope for is Aalborg. Visions of FCK on that one. The worst would be any of the other seven. Sad !!!

Monkey Tonk · Bericht door **Monkey Tonk** » wo dec 17, 2008 10:59 pm

Blind3 schreef:Play for pride and for the shirt. Pride at not being embarassed in their own stadium. Where is the heart ? In Philly recently, the Flyers coach questioned the heart of his team when they were 5:1 down. He also said that the fans had driven thru awful weather to be entertained. And the team wasn't giving them their moneys worth. The Flyers showed heart and guts and won 6:5. Perhaps Van Basten should question his bunch of professionals.

Thanks for the reminder. I was on Carolina (the road dog) and they were up 5-1 after two periods. That comeback, by the way, was a franchise record for the Flyers. Ajax could use that spirit. But out of all games in the world, why did you have to mention that one?

Blind3 · Bericht door **Blind3** » do dec 18, 2008 5:11 am

Sorry. Should've chosen the Jim Rooker walks to Pittsburgh game from circa 1989. In that game, The Pirates were leading the Phillies 9 or 10 - nil when Jim Rooker, their announcer said "If the Pirates lose this game, I'll walk back to Pittsburgh". Jim Rooker did end up walking the 303 odd miles back to Pittsburgh. A charity ended up benefiting from his foot-in-mouth disease and Philadelphia's heart that night.

To all, Sorry for digressing from footie, but I'm simply pointing to the need for the Ajax players to put their hearts and skills into the matches. Too much autopilot crap for my liking.

Jeroen126 · Bericht door **Jeroen126** » do dec 18, 2008 5:59 pm

Agreed, our players seem to lack the heart to win matches. However, what's even more worrying is the fact that after 7 months of Van Basten this team still can't string more than 2 passes together.

Over Pasanens Head · Bericht door **Over Pasanens Head** » vr dec 19, 2008 12:08 pm

Jeroen427 schreef:Agreed, our players seem to lack the heart to win matches. However, what's even more worrying is the fact that after 7 months of Van Basten this team still can't string more than 2 passes together.

Its just not the passing. They are taking too long to make up their minds + there is insufficient movement. We really need to be playing a fast paced push and run style of football if we are to become successful.

I also feel that their confidence levels are paper thin.