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Bericht door Manneken Pis » vr jun 01, 2007 11:52 am

Thought this amusing article from footballunlimited.com might entertain some of you......... :icon_razz.gif:


Football's men of letters generate serious pen and ink

David Beckham has done the unthinkable and reversed the effect of the lesser known "Tyson's law" to win a recall to the England side.

Harry Pearson

May 31, 2007 11:54 PM


David Beckham's latest tattoo declares "Hate me as you fear me". By rights it should say "Hate me as you stare at me trying to work out if that's a T, an L or something in Pushtu that means purity". Because these days Beckham is just about the most widely read man on the planet, the JK Rowling of body-art. If people are reading over Becks' shoulder it's only because they are on a sentence that starts at his scapula and ends at his clavicle. One thing is for certain, Posh Spice need never take a book to the beach if her husband is with her. There's enough on his right arm alone to keep anybody going through a summer holiday. Other men have Love and Hate tattooed on their knuckles. You suspect Beckham has War and Peace tattooed on his chest and half of Anna Karenina too for good measure.

If nothing else Beckham's deserved recall to the England side demonstrates that he is one of the few men around capable of reversing the effects of Tyson's Law. Tyson's Law states that tattoos increase as sporting performance diminishes. It is named after Mike Tyson. Once the most feared heavyweight on the planet, the iron one's Didier Drogba-style dive down the rankings was accompanied by more and more visits to establishments with names like Sink Some Ink and The Naughty Needle. Nowadays Tyson is a walking Rosetta Stone and incapable of beating anyone, including himself (a fight even Don King has failed so far to promote despite the obvious poster strap-line: "Tyson v Tyson. It's Id against Ego!").

Christian Vieri of Italy is one footballer that suffered the Tyson effect.

The burly striker began his international career like a rampaging bull and ended it, at Euro 2004, looking like a man who'd gone to a fancy dress party as the Oxford English Dictionary. His performances in Portugal were to be found under L for listless.

The bulk of Vieri's tattoos are words written in Kanji. The Italian forward claims to have picked these out because he liked the look of them without knowing what they meant. Luckily they turned out to be power, peace and thunder rather than seepage, pie and trumpet. Another of Beck's team-mates, Sergio Ramos, meanwhile, is said to have half a dozen tattoos on his arms that are written in "Elvish". Quite what they say I am not sure but it is probably something profound from the lyrics of Viva Lash Vegash.

Profundity, you see, rather than simple decoration is definitely something today's footballer is looking for when he pops into Crazy Sid's Piercing Parlour and leafs through the designs book. At the last World Cup Iván Kaviedes of Ecuador flaunted an inscription on his wrist that declared "If you don't know me, don't judge me". To which the obvious response was to get a tattoo of your own reading "I don't know you, but I would judge you're the sort of silly twat who thinks that is, like, really deep, man".

The question that must be asked is: who are these tattoo messages aimed at?

In the case of Chelsea's new boy Steve Sidwell, the answer is clear. The midfielder has his wedding vows tattooed on his back. These are self-penned lines of devotion to his wife, Krystell, that declare: "From day one you have been the rock by my side". Whether Krystell is likewise tattooed is not recorded, though perhaps her own sacrifice for love is simply to have held her tongue when her husband compared her to a large inanimate lump with moss growing on it rather than smacking him in the chops. Sidwell's core audience is clearly Krystell, but what of some of the others?

A couple of years ago Beckham's erstwhile colleague at the Bernabéu, Jonathan Woodgate, confessed to having had a 42-word inspirational message tattooed on his back. Since it was plainly not visible to the centre-half himself - unless he did that thing women do when they stand with their back facing the wardrobe mirror holding an open compact case in front of their face and saying "Can you see my knickers? I can see my knickers. Can you see my knickers?" - we can only speculate who it was designed to inspire. Clearly somebody who needs a bit of a morale boost when gazing at the Middlesbrough and England defender's naked shoulders, but who could that be? Mark Schwarzer? Steve McClaren?

At one time a tattoo might have given the footballer a psychological edge, unnerving opponents. That is because at one time the only people who had tattoos were broken-nosed blokes who'd been in the navy, or Durham E Wing.

Nowadays everybody has tattoos. Once a tattoo said "Armed with a chair-leg in a prison riot" now it says "IT consultant with a tracker mortgage and 13 monthly payments left on a Mondeo Zetec". Even the young woman who works behind the counter in my local chip shop is engraved like the second engineer on a Clyde steamer. Mind you, the young woman in the chippy could in all likelihood batter most footballers as swiftly as she does a Dutch Smokey.
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SE6Ajacied schreef:More good taste Dutch TV from Endemol..... :confused.gif:

(from bbc site)

"Outcry over TV kidney competition

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It turned out to be a hoax (to highlight the kidney shortage).
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Bericht door Sevag » zo jun 03, 2007 1:17 am

The funny thing is, Kidney's are not item you can buy from the shelves, people have to die first to donate, or even risk having one taken out. It's certainly something I will keep ahold of when alive, even though I understand the importance to donate, I don't want to add any health problems for myself by taking out my own kidney, afterall, we were born with two for a reason.

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Bericht door SE6Ajacied » zo jun 17, 2007 1:16 pm

Lion v Buffalo, but not with the usual result.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU8DDYz68kM
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Bericht door Philippe » ma jun 18, 2007 11:20 am

any news about the 2007/2008 games schedule ?
Appie, stay strong !

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Bericht door Kowalczyk » ma jun 18, 2007 11:29 am

philippe schreef:any news about the 2007/2008 games schedule ?
Nope. Normally first week of July. One thing's for sure: the moment it's officially released, it will appear on Ajax USA (matches page + a news report). Same day. Matter of hours.

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Bericht door Cedric » ma jun 18, 2007 11:45 am

I saw a 'rumor' yesterday announcing the fixtures of the first day. If it was true, Ajax would start against Sparta at home on 19 august.
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Dutch backpacker among gunshot victims

Bericht door DanK » di jun 19, 2007 4:41 am

You're not safe anywhere anymore...
Dutch backpacker among gunshot victims

http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/ ... 68215.html

Police have revealed the third person shot by a gunman in Melbourne's central business district yesterday was a Dutch backpacker.

The tourist, who suffered gunshot wounds to the upper body, apparently came on the scene of the shooting by chance, Detective Inspector Stephen Clark told the ABC.

"He's from overseas, I believe on an extended holiday around the world, so we've contacted his family over in Amsterdam, and they're heading down to Australia," Detective Inspector Clark said.

Asked whether the man was a backpacker who happened to be walking by the scene at the corner of Flinders Lane and Williams Street, Detective Inspector Clark said: "I believe so, yes."

The condition of the backpacker has improved since yesterday, when he was rushed to the Royal Melbourne Hospital with life-threatening injuries.

The 25-year-old man is now in a serious condition, a Royal Melbourne Hospital spokesman said.

He had been in a critical condition in the hospital's intensive care unit since the shooting.

Kara Douglas, 24, who was also wounded during the shooting, is in a serious but stable condition.

The spokesman could not say whether the pair were conscious or when police might interview them.

A spokeswoman for The Netherlands' consulate in Melbourne said no statement would be released today by the consulate or the family of the Dutch tourist.

A 43-year-old lawyer, Brendan Keilar, was killed in the shooting, and former Sydney model Kara Douglas, 24, was seriously injured.

Police are hunting for the alleged gunman, Christopher Wayne Hudson, 29, who is known to them and is described as extremely dangerous.

AAP, with Nick Sheridan

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This is seriously f*cked. This happened no more than 100m from my work in the city yesterday morning.

Melbourne is such a great, safe city. This is seriously f*&ked up.

Story is that the shooter is from a biker-gang (from NSW). He had an argument at a nightclub, beat up a woman, then grabbed another woman into a taxi, started beating her, the taxi driver stopped, the girl tried to get out and onlookers tried to help her.

3 helpers/onlookers got shot a close range - 1 dead. The gunman ran and hasn't been found since.

What a cowardly act.

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Re: Dutch backpacker among gunshot victims

Bericht door Kowalczyk » di jun 19, 2007 8:12 am

DanK schreef:Story is that the shooter is from a biker-gang (from NSW).
He's got his arm around every man's dream
And crumbs in his beard from the seafood special
Oh, can't you see my world is falling apart?
Baby, please, leave the biker
Leave the biker
Break his heart


(Fountains Of Wayne - Leave The Biker, 1996)

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Re: Dutch backpacker among gunshot victims

Bericht door SE6Ajacied » di jun 19, 2007 8:23 am

DanK schreef: This is seriously f*cked. This happened no more than 100m from my work in the city yesterday morning.
Glad you're OK DanK. You don't often see Melbourne on the (non-sports) news here but saw this - as you say, seriously f'ed. Hope they catch this guy.
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Re: Dutch backpacker among gunshot victims

Bericht door DanK » di jun 19, 2007 9:22 am

SE6Ajacied schreef:
DanK schreef: This is seriously f*cked. This happened no more than 100m from my work in the city yesterday morning.
Glad you're OK DanK. You don't often see Melbourne on the (non-sports) news here but saw this - as you say, seriously f'ed. Hope they catch this guy.
Thanks mate.

Melbourne is a great place to live. Its just one of those reminders you aren't safe anywhere at all anymore.

Its funny, its one of those 'what-if' scenarios. I got to work exactly the same time as the shooting started. Sometimes I get the 55 tram, which goes past the incident pretty much exactly. Yesterday I was tired and couldn't be bothered changing trams.

I by know means am saying if I was on the tram anything would have happened, but 3 innocent people where shot point blank yesterday. It could have really been anyone.

Just reminds you to live your life to the max.

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Bericht door Kowalczyk » di jun 19, 2007 9:39 am

DanK schreef:Melbourne is a great place to live. Its just one of those reminders you aren't safe anywhere at all anymore.
Chin up, mate...

I'm glad you're safe and I know how this kind of thing can scare the shit out of you, but you shouldn't think that things get worse and worse and worse and worse. That simply ain't true.

Melbourne is a major city. It may be a relatively safe major city, but like every major city it has its share of random crime and innocent victims. This time it happened frighteningly close to you, but hey: the world is not a bad place.

Not even a worse place than in the 1970s, for example. I just read a fantastic book called Not Abba: the real story of the 1970s. Man, what a depressing decade that was... IRA bombs, PLO hi-jackings, wild strikes, collapsing industries, oil shortage, power cuts, people living in the ugliest and most depressing urban housing estates ever constructed, assassinations, terror groups, Vietnam, cold war, street violence, football hooliganism, overt racism... Almost everything was considerably worse than today.

So hey, guess what? Sometimes things actually get better! It's a bit out of fashion to say it, but it's true. "All things considered, the world is a better and safer place than it was 30 years ago." Not many people can look at life in such an academic and rational way (people just like to complain and tell each other that things are shit), but the above statement it's not a hippy mantra; it's the naked truth! A matter of figures.

Crime rates are, in most countries on this planet, considerably lower than they were in the era of Reagan, Thatcher and (over here, where I live) Van Agt and Lubbers, names that may sound less familiar than Reagan and Thatcher, but stand for roughly the same set of values and political decisions of the era. The bad guys can hurt us (and they always will), but never beat us. We, the good folk, are the majority. There's simply too many of us. Goodness is a plague. An eternal epidemic. A correct analysis of the facts can only lead to one thing: optimism and a conviction that the future will be bloody great (just like the present and the past, or perhaps even better!).

And yes, this goes for Melbourne, too.

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Bericht door DanK » di jun 19, 2007 10:11 am

Thanks mate. You are absolutely correct.

I didn't mean to sound mellow dramatic, but just pointing out that we need to appreciate what we have and of course live for the moment. And be thankful that we have a football club we love in Amsterdam ;)

It is just one of those random events in life. Actually, Melbourne is an extremely safe city, but isn't without incident. We've had our fair share of nutters, in the late 80s there was a street shooting where from memory 7 or 8 people died. But in general you can still safely walk streets late at night.

It was a little surreal walking out late yesterday and seeing armed police with bullet proof vests running around the city. I guess in this regard, I have lived a lucky sheltered life, so I shouldn't complain at all.

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Bericht door Manneken Pis » di jun 19, 2007 10:38 am

Kowalczyk schreef:
DanK schreef:Melbourne is a great place to live. Its just one of those reminders you aren't safe anywhere at all anymore.
Chin up, mate...

I'm glad you're safe and I know how this kind of thing can scare the shit out of you, but you shouldn't think that things get worse and worse and worse and worse. That simply ain't true.

Melbourne is a major city. It may be a relatively safe major city, but like every major city it has its share of random crime and innocent victims. This time it happened frighteningly close to you, but hey: the world is not a bad place.

Not even a worse place than in the 1970s, for example. I just read a fantastic book called Not Abba: the real story of the 1970s. Man, what a depressing decade that was... IRA bombs, PLO hi-jackings, wild strikes, collapsing industries, oil shortage, power cuts, people living in the ugliest and most depressing urban housing estates ever constructed, assassinations, terror groups, Vietnam, cold war, street violence, football hooliganism, overt racism... Almost everything was considerably worse than today.

So hey, guess what? Sometimes things actually get better! It's a bit out of fashion to say it, but it's true. "All things considered, the world is a better and safer place than it was 30 years ago." Not many people can look at life in such an academic and rational way (people just like to complain and tell each other that things are shit), but the above statement it's not a hippy mantra; it's the naked truth! A matter of figures.

Crime rates are, in most countries on this planet, considerably lower than they were in the era of Reagan, Thatcher and (over here, where I live) Van Agt and Lubbers, names that may sound less familiar than Reagan and Thatcher, but stand for roughly the same set of values and political decisions of the era. The bad guys can hurt us (and they always will), but never beat us. We, the good folk, are the majority. There's simply too many of us. Goodness is a plague. An eternal epidemic. A correct analysis of the facts can only lead to one thing: optimism and a conviction that the future will be bloody great (just like the present and the past, or perhaps even better!).

And yes, this goes for Melbourne, too.

K.
Talking of looking at things from a non-coventional perspective I strongly recommend:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Freakonomics-Ec ... 0141019018

A very interesting look at various subjects that draws unexpected conculsions based not on political points of view or "beliefs" but pure statistical data available. I read it in one sitting.....
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Bericht door Kowalczyk » di jun 19, 2007 11:11 am

Believe it or not: I read Not Abba during our trip through Cuba. Meanwhile, sitting right next to me, my good mate Bastiaan was reading Freakonomics. More than just once, I told him something from Not Abba - and he illustrated it with something from Freakonomics.

The homicide rates, for example. If I remember it correctly there are homicide statistics from a number of countries in Freakonomics, including The Netherlands.

Those figures show that the number of homicides in Holland since the Middle Ages (and in almost every other country) has steadily gone down. Fewer people are murdered today than in the Middle Ages, than in the 17th century, than in the 19th century, than in the 1920s... yes, even fewer than in the safe, friendly 1950s, if I remember it correctly, the good ol' days when people still knew how to behave themselves (etc. etc. bollocks).

The interesting thing is: tell my grandmother that there were more homicides in the 1950s than in the 1970s, and more in the 1970s than in the 1990s - and she will absolutely not believe you. My grandmother (and millions of scared people with her) firmly believes that the world is becoming a more dangerous place every day.

The key question: why is that? Why do people always believe that things are getting worse, even if the absolute opposite is true? Are we, homo sapiens, a pessimistic species by nature? Is it in our DNA? This is a fascinating phenomenon in human culture.

The media, for sure, is one crucial factor. Back in the 1970s Holland had only two TV channels. There were two or three news bulletins every day, plus a few news magazines on TV that provided longer background reports. The internet didn't exist. There were no free newspapers available on train and metro stations.

Today, almost every family has access to dozens of TV stations, most of them not public but commercial and focused on sensation. Almost all of these networks have a very prominent 'news' magazine that almost exclusively focuses on 'small' news close to home, that basically makes people afraid: stabbings, kidnappings, pub fights, youth gangs mugging elderly people, worrying drug abuse in your town, scumbags hosting websites full of pornographic images of children, people that train pitbulls to kill... Anything, as long as it's sensational, close to home and fear-inflicting. A few free, garbage newspapers focus on similar 'news' and then there's the internet... need I say more? Garbage and bullshit galore.

It is pretty understandable that my grandmother (and yours) are afraid of the modern world. There is not more violence on the streets than there was 30 years ago (quite on the contrary: there were considerably more riots, fights, stabbings, assassinations and racist homicides in 1977 than in 2007), but today's ugliness is a million times more visible. It is rammed down your throat all the time, whereas back in the 1970s it wasn't on TV and newspapers generally had a more 'serious' focus on 'bigger' news, rather than on 'small' individual stories that make people go "oohh, that's terrible, innit?"

Intellectuals and people with a certain academic, rational ability to analyze things know this and see things in perspective. Most people don't.

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Bericht door SE6Ajacied » di jun 19, 2007 12:28 pm

Interesting post Ko - I think you probably right, from what I've read about social history, previous centuries were far more violent (and ghastly methods of judicial execution weren't that much of a deterent either).

Seeing as we're taliking about crime figures and the like, a couple of months back we had a spate of kniving/shooting murders between mainly Black teenagers in inner London - that was all over the news here but did it reach the news abroad?

What I'm getting at is that, terrible as it was, what happened in Melbourne yesterday probably isn't that unusual for a major city somewhere around the world every once in a while and the media just seem to have their own agenda as to what reaches the news and what doesn't. I sometimes look all over the news sites to look at really obscure stories but yesterday I didn't have to - this was headline news on the BBC website and probably the TV news as well.
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Bericht door Philippe » di jun 19, 2007 2:01 pm

Kowalczyk schreef: The key question: why is that? Why do people always believe that things are getting worse, even if the absolute opposite is true? Are we, homo sapiens, a pessimistic species by nature? Is it in our DNA? This is a fascinating phenomenon in human culture.K.
Things are not what they seem, and Ajax in 2007 are better than in the 70's. :drecul.gif:
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Bericht door Kowalczyk » di jun 19, 2007 2:08 pm

philippe schreef:Things are not what they seem, and Ajax in 2007 are better than in the 70's. :drecul.gif:
Hehe... Nice one. :drecul.gif:

Coming to think of it... In my post I was talking about "30 years ago", comparing 2007 to 1977. I do believe that today's Ajax is better than the Ajax of 1977...

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Bericht door aveslacker » di jun 19, 2007 2:24 pm

Couldn't have said it better myself, Ko. You are spot on. I wish many of the people I come in contact with could be so emprical and rational about things.

I'm glad there are at least a few fellow optimists out there.
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Bericht door Philippe » di jun 19, 2007 2:36 pm

It is interesting to note that crime rates rights were much higher 30 years ago. Some politicians pretend to ignore that.
What is very different too is that the weel being was constantly improving from a generation to another, even for the working class.
This is not the case anymore, in France at least, and people are struggling to avoid personnal economic and social decline. For instance, over the last 30years real estate prices have been multiplied by 3 whereas salaries have increased by 50% only.
So I can understand if the youth are not feeling very optimistic these days. :aai.gif:
Appie, stay strong !

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Bericht door SE6Ajacied » di jun 19, 2007 10:57 pm

This is fun, but she keeps kicking me out....

http://jo-jo.net/ariane/dateariane/default.htm
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Bericht door DanK » wo jun 20, 2007 4:45 am

Spot on Menno. Perfectly put.

A good example of media "pushing" out stories at the moment here is around school bullying, or more to the point bullying and filming, then posting the behaviour on the net.

Now there are cases saying "bullying must be stopped, its going to far. The internet is killing society" yadda-yadda. While I hate people who bully others, imho, its no worse than it was when I was at school. The difference is there is now another outlet for it. And the media loves to blame the internet for everything anyway...

If you have tendancies to be a shithead, you are going to be one whether the interenet is there or not.

There will also always be nutters who shoot, there always has been. And you are correct, its no worse now than then. Maybe its actually even better. Does anyone remember the Port Athur massacre in Tasmania for example. Thankfully this hasn't been repeated, but it does show you, you had as much chance of being involved in something then as you do now.

It all comes down to chance...

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Bericht door DanK » wo jun 20, 2007 7:17 am

An update on the Dutchman involved in the shooting...
http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/ ... 69380.html

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Bericht door LucaS » wo jun 20, 2007 8:54 am

Kowalczyk schreef:
philippe schreef:Things are not what they seem, and Ajax in 2007 are better than in the 70's. :drecul.gif:
Hehe... Nice one. :drecul.gif:

Coming to think of it... In my post I was talking about "30 years ago", comparing 2007 to 1977. I do believe that today's Ajax is better than the Ajax of 1977...

K.
If I'm not wrong, it was the Ivic era! The performance sucked, playing kind of Italian style, but they did win the championship..
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