Dead right - in the champions league there should only be the champions.SPL schreef:The only team in England who should be worried is Liverpool , who usually finish 4th.
There should never be 4 teams from a country and I hope Platini can change this.
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Over Pasanens Head
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Well rock and roll is such a crazy drug,
It wraps you up in a great big hug
It wraps you up in a great big hug
Liverpool: Final Standings (Eng)The only team in England who should be worried is Liverpool , who usually finish 4th.
There should never be 4 teams from a country and I hope Platini can change this.
02-03 5th
03-04 4th
04-05 5th CL Champs**CL Champs given qualifing spot for 05-06 CL
05-06 3rd
06-07 ???
** Interesting to see that Liverpool would not have had a chance
to defend their title the following year....
ONCE AJAX-ALWAYS AJAX
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K.Tattoo Artist Sued Over Penis Tattoo Prank
Komfie Manalo - All Headline News Correspondent
Buenos Aires, Argentina (AHN) - A tattoo artist from Argentina is facing a lawsuit after drawing a penis on the back of an Argentinean football fan instead of his favorite team's official logo.
Reports said the teenager approached the tattoo artist and asked him to tattoo the logo of the Boca Junior football team on his back.
However, the tattooist was an avid supporter of the rival team and decided to play a prank on his young customer.
After reaching home, the victim proudly showed his parents his new tattoo and was surprised to learn that a penis was tattooed on his back.
According to Argentina's Terra newspaper, the victim said, "I could not see what he was tattooing because he didn't have a mirror. I only saw it when I got home and showed it to my parents."
A police spokesperson added, "The tattooist supports Boca Junior's rival, River Plate, so he got annoyed when the teenager asked him to tattoo Boca's symbol and decided to tattoo a penis instead. Unbelievable!"
Still alive...
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SE6Ajacied
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From rte.ie website. I don't know what to say that's not been said before :nooo: :nooo: :sad:
"Italian football off after death in riot
Saturday, 3 February 2007 07:47
The Italian Football Federation has suspended all matches indefinitely after a policeman was killed at a Serie A match between Catania and Palermo.
Officer Filippo Raciti died as violence flared during the Sicilian derby in Catania.
The federation has also cancelled Italy's international friendly with Romania on Wednesday.
AdvertisementCommissioner Luca Pancalli said they will set up a commission to probe the link between sport and politics.
After the match, fans continued to fight running battles with police on the streets outside the stadium.
Around 100 people were treated for injuries, while dozens with lesser injuries were taken to local hospitals."
"Italian football off after death in riot
Saturday, 3 February 2007 07:47
The Italian Football Federation has suspended all matches indefinitely after a policeman was killed at a Serie A match between Catania and Palermo.
Officer Filippo Raciti died as violence flared during the Sicilian derby in Catania.
The federation has also cancelled Italy's international friendly with Romania on Wednesday.
AdvertisementCommissioner Luca Pancalli said they will set up a commission to probe the link between sport and politics.
After the match, fans continued to fight running battles with police on the streets outside the stadium.
Around 100 people were treated for injuries, while dozens with lesser injuries were taken to local hospitals."
Forza Haarlem. HFC Gone but not forgotten!
Over a week ago I remember reading an article in dutch, that Van Basten wants Leonardo to qualify as a dutch citizen so he can obtain a passport, in order to play for the dutch national team. I dont know about (dutch) guys, but it does not sound like a good idea, I mean if he does, and more non-dutchies do the same then what the hell is the dutch national team going to look like in say 10 or 20 years time? 2 Brazilians :nooo: 3 morrocans X'C 4 indonesians 
and 1 dutch man :frusty:
and 1 dutch man :frusty:-
SE6Ajacied
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but the Moroccan's and Indonesians would presumably have been born in NL so they Dutch...same way Edgar Davids is Dutch and Shaun Wright-Phillips is English. I see the point you're trying to make and Leonardo for instance "becoming" Dutch is a different thing entirely but this could turn into quite a dodgy conversation.Ayman schreef: 2 Brazilians :nooo: 3 morrocans X'C 4 indonesians
Forza Haarlem. HFC Gone but not forgotten!
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Alternate scouting strategy......
From a British Non-League Newspaper:
By Sam Eliott
Bottom of the league Bedford are console-ing themselves after manager Nick Platnauer made a transfer swoop via his PlayStation!
The eagle-eyed Eagles' boss has been scouting for talent to keep his club in Nationwide South by playing cult gaming favourite Championship Manager.
And Platnauer was so impressed by the form of Chippenham Town's Adam Garner he made a move - only to discover funds were not available to complete a transfer.
Determined Platnauer then approached the game's makers with a plea to put up the funds to bring in central defender Garner to the New Eyrie.
And he got his man after Eidos officials agreed to buy the 22 year old and loan him to the club.
Platnauer, a postman in his day job, said: "My boy's got a Playstation so after I heard Adam was available I spent some time on the game looking at his stats, seeing what type of player he is and how he could fit in.
The game showed him in an excellent light so I thought I'd go for it.
"Championship Manager is covering the Nationwide South for the first time, so it's a fantastic tool for us managers - it saves money on phone bills anyway!"
But there is one drawback for Bedford. They won't get any money should Garner, a former Conference player with Gravesend & Northfleet and Forest Green, move on for a fee.
He is now the 'property' of Championship Manager.
But Platnauer isn't concerned about the wider implications this agreement may have on the game.
Championship Manager has become the first brand in Britain to buy a footballer and the Town boss doesn't want 'his' capture to be the last.
He added: "It can be nothing but positive. It doesn't matter if we've opened up a can of worms.
"We don't own Adam, but he's playing for us.
If it helps us by sponsor, or financial supporter, getting involved then so be it. I'm all for it - every club should give it a try.
"Our fantastic Supporters Trust also helps raise money each week, but this is an opportunity we needed to take."
Championship Manager spokesman David Rutter added: "We're delighted to help out in such a unique way.
It certainly poses some interestng questions on the on the future of player transfers and while we're the first brand to buy a player, I'm sure we won't be the last."
It may not be totally PC, but it certainly sounds like Postman Plat has been pushing all the right corporate buttons!
By Sam Eliott
Bottom of the league Bedford are console-ing themselves after manager Nick Platnauer made a transfer swoop via his PlayStation!
The eagle-eyed Eagles' boss has been scouting for talent to keep his club in Nationwide South by playing cult gaming favourite Championship Manager.
And Platnauer was so impressed by the form of Chippenham Town's Adam Garner he made a move - only to discover funds were not available to complete a transfer.
Determined Platnauer then approached the game's makers with a plea to put up the funds to bring in central defender Garner to the New Eyrie.
And he got his man after Eidos officials agreed to buy the 22 year old and loan him to the club.
Platnauer, a postman in his day job, said: "My boy's got a Playstation so after I heard Adam was available I spent some time on the game looking at his stats, seeing what type of player he is and how he could fit in.
The game showed him in an excellent light so I thought I'd go for it.
"Championship Manager is covering the Nationwide South for the first time, so it's a fantastic tool for us managers - it saves money on phone bills anyway!"
But there is one drawback for Bedford. They won't get any money should Garner, a former Conference player with Gravesend & Northfleet and Forest Green, move on for a fee.
He is now the 'property' of Championship Manager.
But Platnauer isn't concerned about the wider implications this agreement may have on the game.
Championship Manager has become the first brand in Britain to buy a footballer and the Town boss doesn't want 'his' capture to be the last.
He added: "It can be nothing but positive. It doesn't matter if we've opened up a can of worms.
"We don't own Adam, but he's playing for us.
If it helps us by sponsor, or financial supporter, getting involved then so be it. I'm all for it - every club should give it a try.
"Our fantastic Supporters Trust also helps raise money each week, but this is an opportunity we needed to take."
Championship Manager spokesman David Rutter added: "We're delighted to help out in such a unique way.
It certainly poses some interestng questions on the on the future of player transfers and while we're the first brand to buy a player, I'm sure we won't be the last."
It may not be totally PC, but it certainly sounds like Postman Plat has been pushing all the right corporate buttons!
“If I wanted you to understand it, I would have explained it better.”
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I read this in yesterday's Guardian. Interesting article about the resistance being put up by Premier League and other rich clubs to some of the proposed changes in football (from the Guardian website)
Caborn caught between huge profits and high ideals
Sports minister struggles to win over free-marketeers of Premiership to European vision of common values
David Conn
Wednesday February 14, 2007
Guardian
The sports minister, Richard Caborn, did not bathe in the warmest of welcomes from the Premier League last week when he attended a meeting of our top clubs to urge them to cooperate with his European efforts to reform sport.
The political process, which Caborn himself initiated, to introduce a European vision of sport as a communal, cultural activity rather than a free-market business, has gone way too far for the Premier League's liking. The European commission, the Brussels institution which wields real, legal power, is currently formulating a white paper to define its approach to sport, which the Premier League opposes primarily because it fears it will invest Uefa with greatly increased authority over the way the game is run.
This follows the Caborn-inspired report, entitled the Independent European Sport Review, which came out in July 2006, recommending that Uefa works directly with the commission to develop legal protection for sport's "fundamental social, educational and cultural values". The review talked of a democratic, European sports model, "deep-rooted in civil society, an important expression of our culture" and characterised by "solidarity" between the elite and community grass roots, specifically contrasting that with the US view of professional sport as pure big-business entertainment. The review's specific recommendations did not match the grand ambition, but did terrify our rich clubs by arguing for "competitive balance" to be restored with salary caps and for Uefa to share Champions League money more fairly.
The Premier League opposed the review because of these suggestions and the prominent role proposed for Uefa, and is now lobbying in Brussels to prevent these measures finding their way into the commission's work.
Across the continent, however, there is broad support for an EU settlement, and in recent times Uefa has sought to give a lead, to modernise itself from being an association simply organising club tournaments and the European Championship, to a governing body which can nurture sporting values at the heart of football. Some fear this will be unsettled by last month's election as Uefa president of the former French midfield maestro, Michel Platini, because of his strong links with Fifa and because the chief executive, Lars-Christer Olsson, who immediately resigned, was a driving force in Uefa's reinvention.
However, Platini's manifesto set out his commitment to "the values of Europe and of sport" and to distributing money more evenly. His pledge to reduce to three the number of clubs in the Champions League from the rich countries, including England, is aimed at reintroducing to the tournament the champions of clubs from the continent's smaller nations.
"Football is not all about money, or just the richest clubs," Uefa's communications director, William Gaillard, says. "Under Michel Platini, Uefa's direction will continue as before."
The European vision is bolstered, too, by a motion expected to be passed shortly in the European parliament, developed by the Belgian MEP, Ivo Belet, which makes some bold assertions that football has become damaged by too great an obsession with making money. Caborn seems timid here about questioning the takeovers of our clubs by billionaires - saying he has "no problem with ownership, only governance" - but Belet is prepared to go further, his motion stating: "The social function of football is being jeopardised by . . . the fact that clubs are driven by pure business motives, often as a result of a takeover."
Increasing numbers of fans here, where ticket prices are the highest in Europe, feel exploited by that business culture. The Football Supporters Federation, which backs the review, points to the German example, where Bundesliga clubs are majority owned by their supporters and where it costs as little as €9 (£6.25) to watch the current league leaders, FC Schalke 04, in their magnificent Veltins Arena.
Belet's motion recommends that clubs distribute their TV money "in a fair way" and have a minimum number of "home grown" players in their squads, operate controls on the amounts paid to players and encourage supporters to be involved in clubs' "ownership and management". This adds force to the review's recommendations and the general climate of support, even though the European parliament does not have the power to legislate.
The forthcoming white paper is not expected to reach as far into the detail of how sport might run itself more equitably, but it can be expected to make some concessions to sport's "specific values" in return for action to address corruption and other problems of basic integrity. This is seen as heady, momentous political change, the first moves by the European Union towards a solid commitment to sport. In 2000, the Council of Europe made a declaration in Nice which stated that the EU should take account of sport's "inherent social, educational and cultural functions" but when the European commission challenged the Premier League's TV arrangements, that Nice declaration was no help because it has no legal force. Caborn and other British ministers intervened on the Premiership's side then, and the 20 clubs abundantly harvested the fruits of that support recently, with their £2.7bn TV rights deal for 2007-10.
Caborn believes that in return, the clubs should commit themselves to curbing the "excesses" of football, and so he searched for a wider European solution. The independent review he launched in November 2005, said that the free market in sport should be protected from interference by the European commission if it nourishes better its own "social, educational and cultural values". The Premier League, wedded to a free-market view - tempered by "corporate social responsibility" in its funding for the Football Foundation and community programmes - rejects all the reforms, and is suspicious of the greater role promised to Uefa. They also believe they are ahead of other countries in many areas, including child protection and having a "fit and proper person test" for club owners and directors.
Caborn's address last week was aimed at bringing the clubs into a discussion, and he said afterwards that he had thrown the gauntlet down: "I told the clubs the status quo is not an option."
The clubs' version of the meeting, though, was that Caborn did not engage convincingly with the detail, and that they sent him back chewing on their objections, particularly their argument that Uefa must reform itself before being granted further powers. The review did call for Uefa to have "advisory bodies" representing the professional leagues, but the Premier League is pushing hard for more change and appeared to score a hit with Caborn. Afterwards he said, in that dreaded phrase, that our clubs had argued Uefa is "not fit for purpose," and he has invited them to come up with a "blueprint" for reforming Uefa.
"Mr Caborn made it quite clear,"a Premier League spokesman said, "that Uefa reform and restructuring, to include league and club representation, should occur before any derogated powers are ceded to them."
That appears to allow the clubs to volley back the whole process, which Uefa will oppose, and we wait to see what Caborn's bullish initial talk about curbing "excesses" will ultimately amount to. The tide is turning towards some action to shape European values for football, but moving rather more slowly than the American billionaires, diving in to claim some of the spoils.
The European parliament's Belet football motion proposes solutions to problem areas it identifies as:
Social function
"The social function of football is being jeopardised by the exploitation of young players, by corruption, and by the fact that clubs are driven by pure business motives, often as a result of a takeover"
Wealth and power
"The future of professional football in Europe is threatened by the growing concentration of economic wealth and sporting power"
E¬ects of Bosman
"The Bosman ruling in 1995 . . . has increased the ability of the richest clubs to sign up the best players, led to a stronger link between financial power and sporting success, an inflationary spiral in players' salaries and reduced opportunities for locally trained players"
Caborn caught between huge profits and high ideals
Sports minister struggles to win over free-marketeers of Premiership to European vision of common values
David Conn
Wednesday February 14, 2007
Guardian
The sports minister, Richard Caborn, did not bathe in the warmest of welcomes from the Premier League last week when he attended a meeting of our top clubs to urge them to cooperate with his European efforts to reform sport.
The political process, which Caborn himself initiated, to introduce a European vision of sport as a communal, cultural activity rather than a free-market business, has gone way too far for the Premier League's liking. The European commission, the Brussels institution which wields real, legal power, is currently formulating a white paper to define its approach to sport, which the Premier League opposes primarily because it fears it will invest Uefa with greatly increased authority over the way the game is run.
This follows the Caborn-inspired report, entitled the Independent European Sport Review, which came out in July 2006, recommending that Uefa works directly with the commission to develop legal protection for sport's "fundamental social, educational and cultural values". The review talked of a democratic, European sports model, "deep-rooted in civil society, an important expression of our culture" and characterised by "solidarity" between the elite and community grass roots, specifically contrasting that with the US view of professional sport as pure big-business entertainment. The review's specific recommendations did not match the grand ambition, but did terrify our rich clubs by arguing for "competitive balance" to be restored with salary caps and for Uefa to share Champions League money more fairly.
The Premier League opposed the review because of these suggestions and the prominent role proposed for Uefa, and is now lobbying in Brussels to prevent these measures finding their way into the commission's work.
Across the continent, however, there is broad support for an EU settlement, and in recent times Uefa has sought to give a lead, to modernise itself from being an association simply organising club tournaments and the European Championship, to a governing body which can nurture sporting values at the heart of football. Some fear this will be unsettled by last month's election as Uefa president of the former French midfield maestro, Michel Platini, because of his strong links with Fifa and because the chief executive, Lars-Christer Olsson, who immediately resigned, was a driving force in Uefa's reinvention.
However, Platini's manifesto set out his commitment to "the values of Europe and of sport" and to distributing money more evenly. His pledge to reduce to three the number of clubs in the Champions League from the rich countries, including England, is aimed at reintroducing to the tournament the champions of clubs from the continent's smaller nations.
"Football is not all about money, or just the richest clubs," Uefa's communications director, William Gaillard, says. "Under Michel Platini, Uefa's direction will continue as before."
The European vision is bolstered, too, by a motion expected to be passed shortly in the European parliament, developed by the Belgian MEP, Ivo Belet, which makes some bold assertions that football has become damaged by too great an obsession with making money. Caborn seems timid here about questioning the takeovers of our clubs by billionaires - saying he has "no problem with ownership, only governance" - but Belet is prepared to go further, his motion stating: "The social function of football is being jeopardised by . . . the fact that clubs are driven by pure business motives, often as a result of a takeover."
Increasing numbers of fans here, where ticket prices are the highest in Europe, feel exploited by that business culture. The Football Supporters Federation, which backs the review, points to the German example, where Bundesliga clubs are majority owned by their supporters and where it costs as little as €9 (£6.25) to watch the current league leaders, FC Schalke 04, in their magnificent Veltins Arena.
Belet's motion recommends that clubs distribute their TV money "in a fair way" and have a minimum number of "home grown" players in their squads, operate controls on the amounts paid to players and encourage supporters to be involved in clubs' "ownership and management". This adds force to the review's recommendations and the general climate of support, even though the European parliament does not have the power to legislate.
The forthcoming white paper is not expected to reach as far into the detail of how sport might run itself more equitably, but it can be expected to make some concessions to sport's "specific values" in return for action to address corruption and other problems of basic integrity. This is seen as heady, momentous political change, the first moves by the European Union towards a solid commitment to sport. In 2000, the Council of Europe made a declaration in Nice which stated that the EU should take account of sport's "inherent social, educational and cultural functions" but when the European commission challenged the Premier League's TV arrangements, that Nice declaration was no help because it has no legal force. Caborn and other British ministers intervened on the Premiership's side then, and the 20 clubs abundantly harvested the fruits of that support recently, with their £2.7bn TV rights deal for 2007-10.
Caborn believes that in return, the clubs should commit themselves to curbing the "excesses" of football, and so he searched for a wider European solution. The independent review he launched in November 2005, said that the free market in sport should be protected from interference by the European commission if it nourishes better its own "social, educational and cultural values". The Premier League, wedded to a free-market view - tempered by "corporate social responsibility" in its funding for the Football Foundation and community programmes - rejects all the reforms, and is suspicious of the greater role promised to Uefa. They also believe they are ahead of other countries in many areas, including child protection and having a "fit and proper person test" for club owners and directors.
Caborn's address last week was aimed at bringing the clubs into a discussion, and he said afterwards that he had thrown the gauntlet down: "I told the clubs the status quo is not an option."
The clubs' version of the meeting, though, was that Caborn did not engage convincingly with the detail, and that they sent him back chewing on their objections, particularly their argument that Uefa must reform itself before being granted further powers. The review did call for Uefa to have "advisory bodies" representing the professional leagues, but the Premier League is pushing hard for more change and appeared to score a hit with Caborn. Afterwards he said, in that dreaded phrase, that our clubs had argued Uefa is "not fit for purpose," and he has invited them to come up with a "blueprint" for reforming Uefa.
"Mr Caborn made it quite clear,"a Premier League spokesman said, "that Uefa reform and restructuring, to include league and club representation, should occur before any derogated powers are ceded to them."
That appears to allow the clubs to volley back the whole process, which Uefa will oppose, and we wait to see what Caborn's bullish initial talk about curbing "excesses" will ultimately amount to. The tide is turning towards some action to shape European values for football, but moving rather more slowly than the American billionaires, diving in to claim some of the spoils.
The European parliament's Belet football motion proposes solutions to problem areas it identifies as:
Social function
"The social function of football is being jeopardised by the exploitation of young players, by corruption, and by the fact that clubs are driven by pure business motives, often as a result of a takeover"
Wealth and power
"The future of professional football in Europe is threatened by the growing concentration of economic wealth and sporting power"
E¬ects of Bosman
"The Bosman ruling in 1995 . . . has increased the ability of the richest clubs to sign up the best players, led to a stronger link between financial power and sporting success, an inflationary spiral in players' salaries and reduced opportunities for locally trained players"
Forza Haarlem. HFC Gone but not forgotten!
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DanK
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Brilliant. Simply brilliant!!!
Melbourne Victory 6 - Adelaide United 0 (thats not a typo!). A Grand Final that will go down in the record books.
A one sided, but absolutely stunning display of attacking football. It has been a long, long time since I have seen a display of ruthless attacking football as I did last night at the Telstra Dome in Melbourne. It reminded me of Ajax when they were Ajax.
In front of a domestic record (sell out) crowd of 55,500 (inc around 54,000 Melbourne supporters) Melbourne Victory totally tore Adelaide United apart pretty much from the get go. Archie Thompson scored a first half hatrick and finished with an incredible 5 goals.
Football has come of age in this town. It has been a privalge to witness the growth of the game, especially in my home town. And given Ajax's up and (mainly) down season, it has easily filled the void this year.
For a write-up of one of the greatest displays of attacking football I have seen have a read:
http://www.theage.com.au/news/soccer/jo ... ntentSwap1
I also never realised Kevin Muscat could actually play football with skill and precision...its been an eye opener of a season down here thats for sure.
2008 Champions League lies ahead...
Melbourne Victory 6 - Adelaide United 0 (thats not a typo!). A Grand Final that will go down in the record books.
A one sided, but absolutely stunning display of attacking football. It has been a long, long time since I have seen a display of ruthless attacking football as I did last night at the Telstra Dome in Melbourne. It reminded me of Ajax when they were Ajax.
In front of a domestic record (sell out) crowd of 55,500 (inc around 54,000 Melbourne supporters) Melbourne Victory totally tore Adelaide United apart pretty much from the get go. Archie Thompson scored a first half hatrick and finished with an incredible 5 goals.
Football has come of age in this town. It has been a privalge to witness the growth of the game, especially in my home town. And given Ajax's up and (mainly) down season, it has easily filled the void this year.
For a write-up of one of the greatest displays of attacking football I have seen have a read:
http://www.theage.com.au/news/soccer/jo ... ntentSwap1
I also never realised Kevin Muscat could actually play football with skill and precision...its been an eye opener of a season down here thats for sure.
2008 Champions League lies ahead...
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DanK
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Thankfully I managed to get 2 tickets (the benefit of being one of the 12,000 and growing members). Obviously I am still on a high, but would have to say this was one of those games you remember for the rest of your life. Absolutely bloody stunning. The noise generated by the fans was a good anything I have been to (apart from maybe the Aust - Uruguay WC qualifier in Sydney).Kowalczyk schreef:That sounds pretty bloody great...
Were you there or did you watch TV?
K.
The city has been on a high all day and it may take a few more before it settles down. :eusa_dance:
It was just one of those games. After the 2nd goal went in, you just thought to yourself "this could be special". Normally I am worried from kick-off to the 93rd min, but last night especially after the 2nd goal, there was just this fantastic feeling in the air - and you just knew you were about to witness something great. After the 4th early in the 2nd half, it was just pure celebration until 20 year old Sarkies curling stunner from outside the box finished off the game in the 92min.
I think I will be keeping the copy of this one for sometime...
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Over Pasanens Head
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I used to watch Mr Muscat perform when he was at Palace and always thought that if he forgot his hard man routine he could really perform to a fairly high level. Unfortunately he seemed to want to play the hard man more often than not.DanK schreef:I also never realised Kevin Muscat could actually play football with skill and precision...its been an eye opener of a season down here thats for sure.
So not surprised DanK by your comment.
Well rock and roll is such a crazy drug,
It wraps you up in a great big hug
It wraps you up in a great big hug
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DanK
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I never really had time for him in the past, he made such a dick of himself more often than not (even in the green and gold colours), and as you mentioned he played the the hardman much more than required.Over Pasanens Head schreef:I used to watch Mr Muscat perform when he was at Palace and always thought that if he forgot his hard man routine he could really perform to a fairly high level. Unfortunately he seemed to want to play the hard man more often than not.DanK schreef:I also never realised Kevin Muscat could actually play football with skill and precision...its been an eye opener of a season down here thats for sure.
So not surprised DanK by your comment.
I must say though, he has totally won me over in relation to his leadership. He was one of the reasons for Victory's success this year. He was moved to midfield and became a 'general' of the team. He still showed the odd loss of his mind, but much less than in the past.
He is still a hardman, but (mostly) its much more controlled, but his vision and passing ability from midfield has been outstanding this season.
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ajaxusa
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At dinner last night, my son Sean asked me what I thought was a pretty interesting question:
"If you could spend one day playing soccer and hanging out with one famous soccer player, who would it be?"
I asked him to clarify, and he said it would just be kicking the ball around and hanging out all day. No entourage, no big games or anything. It's a ten-year-old's vision of a perfect day with a football hero, and I thought it was f*cking great, beautifully simple and sweet.
But then.. I was stumped! Who would I choose?
His only stipulation was that the player had to still be alive. (That rules out Eddy Hamel and George Best.) I was thinking... someone intellectually interesting, not too uptight or insane (that rules out Maradona, I'm afraid).
Johan Cruyff? Jari Litmanen? Beckenbauer?!
"If you could spend one day playing soccer and hanging out with one famous soccer player, who would it be?"
I asked him to clarify, and he said it would just be kicking the ball around and hanging out all day. No entourage, no big games or anything. It's a ten-year-old's vision of a perfect day with a football hero, and I thought it was f*cking great, beautifully simple and sweet.
But then.. I was stumped! Who would I choose?
His only stipulation was that the player had to still be alive. (That rules out Eddy Hamel and George Best.) I was thinking... someone intellectually interesting, not too uptight or insane (that rules out Maradona, I'm afraid).
Johan Cruyff? Jari Litmanen? Beckenbauer?!
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aveslacker
- Berichten: 2925
- Lid geworden op: do feb 03, 2005 4:33 pm
- Locatie: Hong Kong!
John Veldman, definitely. :dancing:aveslacker schreef:For me it would have to be Cruijff, followed by Pele. I also think it would be great fun to hang out with Eric Cantona.
PS : Have you noticed how all the retired biggest players of history have turned into self-absorbed egotistical twats? Pelé, Cruijff, Beckenbauer, Platini, the list goes on.
Zidane, on the other hand.......
meh :|
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The Purple Cow
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- Lid geworden op: vr nov 07, 2003 11:03 am
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Have you guys seen this?
It's from a Swiss League game, Ajax should give this a try sometime.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlDc854aGHM
It's from a Swiss League game, Ajax should give this a try sometime.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlDc854aGHM
Not a Dutch question but after PSV win the papers were saying that Alex cannot play in England yet as he has not played in 70% of Brazil's games in the last 2 years or so.
On the Arsenal side was Denilson an 18 year old Brazilian who has never played for Brazil at full level. As he does not appear to have any other passport can any one tell me how he is allowed to play in England ? No one knew at footy today so I thought I test the brains on this site..
PS This being an English footy question it may be the first time Ko cannot answer but I would not bet on it!!!!!
On the Arsenal side was Denilson an 18 year old Brazilian who has never played for Brazil at full level. As he does not appear to have any other passport can any one tell me how he is allowed to play in England ? No one knew at footy today so I thought I test the brains on this site..
PS This being an English footy question it may be the first time Ko cannot answer but I would not bet on it!!!!!
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Venezuelan Ajacied
- Berichten: 1379
- Lid geworden op: vr feb 04, 2005 12:54 am
- Locatie: Melbourne,Florida.
Zlatan :worshippy:ajaxusa schreef:At dinner last night, my son Sean asked me what I thought was a pretty interesting question:
"If you could spend one day playing soccer and hanging out with one famous soccer player, who would it be?"
I asked him to clarify, and he said it would just be kicking the ball around and hanging out all day. No entourage, no big games or anything. It's a ten-year-old's vision of a perfect day with a football hero, and I thought it was f*cking great, beautifully simple and sweet.
But then.. I was stumped! Who would I choose?
His only stipulation was that the player had to still be alive. (That rules out Eddy Hamel and George Best.) I was thinking... someone intellectually interesting, not too uptight or insane (that rules out Maradona, I'm afraid).
Johan Cruyff? Jari Litmanen? Beckenbauer?!
BRING IT ON !!!!...
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Van basten
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- Lid geworden op: zo dec 17, 2006 8:24 am