World Cup 2006

ZoefdeHaas · Bericht door **ZoefdeHaas** » do jul 06, 2006 3:59 pm

I think it's a nice idea for all this, but it's the players who have to do something. They need to learn or re-learn the ethics of soccer (if u may) to keep the game "beautiful". You can't expect everything from the ref or his assistants.

SPL · Bericht door **SPL** » do jul 06, 2006 6:08 pm

Red cards need to be shown to divers. Portugal were a disgrace and Ronaldo the worst offender for them.

The worst dive of all Figo on Boulahrouz which resulted in the rest of the game breaking down into a farce.

Thank goodness Portugal were beaten, even though Henry went down fairly easily.

jamcocteau · Bericht door **jamcocteau** » do jul 06, 2006 9:11 pm

ZoefdeHaas schreef:I think it's a nice idea for all this, but it's the players who have to do something. They need to learn or re-learn the ethics of soccer (if u may) to keep the game "beautiful". You can't expect everything from the ref or his assistants.

Probably the most sensible words I have seen written on this subject anywhere. At the end of the day it is up to the players themselves to behave. The ref in the Germany v Italy game let the game flow and to me both teams responded in a great fashion - no diving about etc.

DanK · Bericht door **DanK** » vr jul 07, 2006 10:01 am

ZoefdeHaas schreef:I think it's a nice idea for all this, but it's the players who have to do something. They need to learn or re-learn the ethics of soccer (if u may) to keep the game "beautiful". You can't expect everything from the ref or his assistants.

Dont disagree with you Zoef, but the chance of this happening is pretty slim. An example needs to be made of these guys, so the younger generation know its wrong, then maybe in years to come all will be well...we can only hope hey?

mick · Bericht door **mick** » vr jul 07, 2006 8:47 pm

it would be nice if the players themselves could step up and be men by stopping the diving about, but do you think a team like portugal or italy would really do that? not much of a chance. players need to be punished for this behavior, they are making a joke out of the sport to be honest. players need to be exposed as cheats, and this is what will really stop the diving. i've seen too many games in this world cup be decided by a bullshit dive, or a ref error. if i wanted to see diving, i would watch women's olympic diving, not soccer. if i want to watch someone diving around the place, it will be a girl in a bathing suit and not tierry henry, c ronaldo or an italian.

Venezuelan Ajacied · Bericht door **Venezuelan Ajacied** » za jul 08, 2006 6:56 am

jamcocteau schreef:
ZoefdeHaas schreef:I think it's a nice idea for all this, but it's the players who have to do something. They need to learn or re-learn the ethics of soccer (if u may) to keep the game "beautiful". You can't expect everything from the ref or his assistants.
Probably the most sensible words I have seen written on this subject anywhere. At the end of the day it is up to the players themselves to behave. The ref in the Germany v Italy game let the game flow and to me both teams responded in a great fashion - no diving about etc.

>Well not exactly, the flow off play was very good but you just have too keep an eye on Totti if want to see a diver, he's in the same vein of Figo,C Ronaldo and Robben. Great players but horrible divers.

AsgAarD_xxx · Bericht door **AsgAarD_xxx** » za jul 08, 2006 9:30 am

All the ideas are good, but I think it's almost impossible to finish diving etc. They have too big money from football, so they are ready to do absolutely everything just to win the game. It is much easier to make a dive than to make a great action and score a goal...

AsgAarD_xxx · Bericht door **AsgAarD_xxx** » za jul 08, 2006 4:25 pm

"Yes, I was a cheater. When I was a player in Swiss Amateur League I was making the dives" - said Sepp Blatter, the president of FIFA. "When you come to a penalty area and suddenly you loose the ball, you're getting frustrated. Then you fall down and try to make a penalty kick. It's a part of the game... So I can understand Cristiano Ronaldo and other divers...".

:D

ZoefdeHaas · Bericht door **ZoefdeHaas** » za jul 08, 2006 4:46 pm

That's why he's the biggest cunt in football

AsgAarD_xxx · Bericht door **AsgAarD_xxx** » za jul 08, 2006 10:14 pm

Ok, the small final is over. Germany have bronze medals. I must say that they had really good game. On first half Portugal were good, too, but the second was for Germans. Bastian Schweinsteiger proved that he is one of the most tallented player in Germany... It was nice to watch how they played - even if I was rooting for Portugal.

PS: Cristiano Ronaldo was fouled at most one time, but now he is known as a diver, so the referee didn't use his whistle when CR was on the ground... Here's the nice link of how Ronaldo plays :D --> http://shinymedia.blogs.com/photos/unca ... e001_3.gif

Anyway... Very good game, I'm afraid that tommorow's final won't be as interesting as this one.

SPL · Bericht door **SPL** » za jul 08, 2006 10:53 pm

Couldn't be bothered to watch as the game has no meaning and quite frankly I have had a gutfull of watching Portugal and their diving etc. As I have said before this WC will be remembered for players diving . According to some report today Italy have recorded the most dives in the WC. Well they invented it !!

I just hope the 2 finalists try and play football and give us a good final to remember.

aveslacker · Bericht door **aveslacker** » za jul 08, 2006 11:56 pm

Ronaldo doesn't dive. What are you talking about? :eusa_dance:

Afbeelding

aveslacker · Bericht door **aveslacker** » zo jul 09, 2006 12:01 am

Another one for my collection:

Afbeelding

Feest · Bericht door **Feest** » zo jul 09, 2006 12:05 am

aveslacker schreef:Ronaldo doesn't dive. What are you talking about? :eusa_dance:

That;s not Ronaldo...That's Helder Postiga.

Though Ronaldo is a diving cheat, of course.

Cedric · Bericht door **Cedric** » zo jul 09, 2006 9:58 pm

Zidane : from hero to zero.... :redcard:
I don't think France deserved to lose this game, especially in this way, and against... Italy. :pukey:
Italians were slightly better during the first half, but did nothing after...

Overall, we shouldn't forget that is quiet a good result for France. It is slightly better that what I expected anyway... :eusa_liar:

Per · Bericht door **Per** » zo jul 09, 2006 10:02 pm

I'd give anything to find out what Materazzi said to Zidane. It can't have been the ordinary Cazzo....

/ P

ZoefdeHaas · Bericht door **ZoefdeHaas** » zo jul 09, 2006 10:04 pm

ZIDANE AHAHA MADE MY NIGHT

SE6Ajacied · Bericht door **SE6Ajacied** » zo jul 09, 2006 10:17 pm

SE6Ajacied schreef:
I've just got this feeling that all the scandal in Italy might fire up the team to do well ("we'll show them!")

Well, I suppose that makes me the Nostradamus :yes: .

Anyway, very sorry to see France lose tonight, I can't imagine what was said to Zidane to make him do that. I know the man is no saint or anything but not seen him do anything quite as stupid as that before, especially in the WC Final :nooo:

So, how many World Champions will be playing in Serie C next season then??? My price, none, Juve will go to Serie B at most.

AsgAarD_xxx · Bericht door **AsgAarD_xxx** » zo jul 09, 2006 10:49 pm

There was an idea that no club will be relegated when Italy win the cup. Just to avoid sad days after such a great success... So it won't be surprise if Juve, Milan etc. will stay is Serie A.

As for the final - I agree with you. Italy had very good first half, but after that they didn't exist. France were better, but was a bit afraid of making offensive actions (I understand that, the teams just didn't want to make mistakes). The only thing I don't understand is Zidane's reaction. A player like him shoudn't make such a stupid things. Not only in World Cup final, but never. Don't have any idea what Materazzi told him, but I must say that it could be great provocation if Zidane attacked him. And don't care that it was against fair play rules! It's a war - if it was the only way to stop Zidane, I'm for it!

I'll never forget the scene when Zidane was going out of the pitch a few metres of the cup... The only thing worth to remember from this World Cup. The end of a great legend finishing his career in the worst possible way...

And now a time for a short summary:
It wasn't the best tournament I've ever seen. I really hoped that it will be, but it wasn't... Only a few good games (and no great ones). The tournament of divers and - and it's very sad - referees' mistakes. The worst thing is that this World Cup finals haven't promoted any young and tallented players :sad: . No great games, no great young players... Definietely not a tournament of my dreams. Maybe I think that also because of Poland's crappy games? Or maybe this WC was really crap? One thing I know for sure: the journalists will have very hard work to make "best 11" from this tournament. The only players which are worth this are: Buffon, Grosso, Cannavaro, Ribery, Vieira and Klose... Also Bosacki for me (no mistakes against Germany and 2 goals for Poland against Costa Rica, but he played only 2 games, so he doesn't have any chance). I hope that Euro Championship will be better...

ajaxperu · Bericht door **ajaxperu** » zo jul 09, 2006 11:19 pm

I wonder what Materazzi told Zidane to get him so upset. It's a pity that one of the world's smartest player left the field in such a way. I thought France deserved more today, they played better but that wasn't enough for them. I just want to mention one player in particular that impressed me: Cannavaro. What an awesome defender, great world cup, great game.
Well I think it was a good world cup, we had pretty intense games but we missed THE player (like Maradona in 86, Cruyff in 74), no new players, poor referees.
The world cup is over and now....lets concentrate on Ajax! :headbang:

aveslacker · Bericht door **aveslacker** » ma jul 10, 2006 3:27 am

Well, it's official. Even Sepp Blatter has confirmed it: it's ok to cheat at the World Cup.

Congrats Italy.

aveslacker · Bericht door **aveslacker** » ma jul 10, 2006 3:36 am

Steef schreef:That;s not Ronaldo...That's Helder Postiga.

Though Ronaldo is a diving cheat, of course.

You're right. here's Ronaldo (and the rest of the gang).

aveslacker · Bericht door **aveslacker** » ma jul 10, 2006 3:42 am

Here's another good one, involving one of my favorite players.

And for balance's sake...

Lovely world cup it's been.

Thank GOD the Eredivisie is about to start up again.

Venezuelan Ajacied · Bericht door **Venezuelan Ajacied** » ma jul 10, 2006 4:40 am

This World Cup was just too dirty for my taste, too many divers too many yellow's too many red's jesus... what a time to make friends right ? Thank god Ajax is coming back to town.

SE6Ajacied · Bericht door **SE6Ajacied** » ma jul 10, 2006 6:54 am

aveslacker schreef:
Steef schreef:That;s not Ronaldo...That's Helder Postiga.

Though Ronaldo is a diving cheat, of course.
You're right. here's Ronaldo (and the rest of the gang).

Yes, that's what I was on about. The BBC packaged up all the dives and mimes nicely in their highlights programme.

Good to see it's gone to a wider audience now anyway, hopefully all the way to Lisbon.

After the France game I actually changed my support to Germany for the third place game (not that I watched it), glad to see the obnoxious Scolari has now lost two finals games, they were going on so much before that he hadn't lost any.....