West Ham manager Alan Pardew has made comments about Arsenal not having any British players in their squad against REAL. Wenger is now spouting on about Racism etc.
It does seem a joke that the only englishman playing the other night was the ponce for Real Madrid.( Beckham)
I think the main point from Pardew is that Arsenal's attitude is not helping England.I think he has a fair point.
Buying British is not cheap as Arsenal have paid £12m for a 16 year old Walcott. A striker called Dean Ashton has cost £7m but has played half a season in the Premiership, with Norwich last season. The majority of Arsenal young reserves are non brits and teams like Chelsea and Moan u are signing up young non brits for their youth team.
Not sure if anyone will do anything about it though.
Last season in Europe I believe Ajax were coupled with Arsenal in not having many home players in their squad.It was something I disputed at the time.
How one can compare these clubs when nearly ever youth and nearly all our reseves are Dutch and our first team squad is looking more Orange than ever.( and if Blind continues I think even more Dutch players will be signed)
I do not think you should just pick home produced for the sake of it but I do not think much of Arsenal's policy whereby they are not even giving many home players a chance in their own youth system.
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jamcocteau
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Sad day for Scottish football today as Jimmy "Jinky" Johnstone died from motor neurone disease at the age of 61. Jinky was a winger with the great Celtic team of the late 60s early 70s and was one of the most skillfull players ever. He was known in Scotland as one of the last tanner ba' players -a player who learned his trade on the streets.
Now he was a player who would have graced any Ajax team - a truely phenomenal winger.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/footbal ... 800766.stm
Now he was a player who would have graced any Ajax team - a truely phenomenal winger.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/footbal ... 800766.stm
O would some power the giftie gie us to see ourselves as others see us.
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DanK
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Here we go again...
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G14 takes FIFA to court
Reuters
The world's richest football clubs will challenge FIFA, the sport's world governing body, in a Belgian courtroom in a case that could change the game at international level forever.
Belgian first division club Charleroi are taking FIFA to court seeking compensation after one of their players was injured while playing a friendly for Morocco against Burkina Faso in November 2004 and missed the rest of the season.
Charleroi are backed by the G14, which represents 18 of the world's richest clubs, in a test case on the vexed club versus country issue. The G14 has also joined French champions Olympique Lyon in a similar action.
The clubs pay the wages of players, which exceed $175,000 a week for the top performers.
Under FIFA rules they must release any player called up by a national association for international matches, both qualifying games for the leading continental tournaments and friendlies.
On Monday, less than three months before football's showpiece World Cup starts, a judge will begin hearing the case of Abdelmajid Oulmers who was out of action for eight months. Charleroi say his absence derailed their title challenge.
FIFA President Sepp Blatter cold-shoulders G14 and has described the Charleroi case as "disrespectful". FIFA says there is no link between the injury of Oulmers and where Charleroi finished in the league last season, fifth.
FIFA says 75 percent of the profits from major tournaments are returned to national associations who decide what to do with the money. The G14 also wants to be included when the international calendar is agreed.
The possible impact on the game is so large that the G14 could succeed in having the case referred to the European Court of Justice in Luxembourg.
The last major case in football to be referred to the EU court also started in Belgium and that decision just over a decade ago shook football to its foundations.
The 'Bosman' ruling, after a case brought by Jean-Marc Bosman, gave players the power to move freely between clubs when out of contract, increasing player power enormously.
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G14 takes FIFA to court
Reuters
The world's richest football clubs will challenge FIFA, the sport's world governing body, in a Belgian courtroom in a case that could change the game at international level forever.
Belgian first division club Charleroi are taking FIFA to court seeking compensation after one of their players was injured while playing a friendly for Morocco against Burkina Faso in November 2004 and missed the rest of the season.
Charleroi are backed by the G14, which represents 18 of the world's richest clubs, in a test case on the vexed club versus country issue. The G14 has also joined French champions Olympique Lyon in a similar action.
The clubs pay the wages of players, which exceed $175,000 a week for the top performers.
Under FIFA rules they must release any player called up by a national association for international matches, both qualifying games for the leading continental tournaments and friendlies.
On Monday, less than three months before football's showpiece World Cup starts, a judge will begin hearing the case of Abdelmajid Oulmers who was out of action for eight months. Charleroi say his absence derailed their title challenge.
FIFA President Sepp Blatter cold-shoulders G14 and has described the Charleroi case as "disrespectful". FIFA says there is no link between the injury of Oulmers and where Charleroi finished in the league last season, fifth.
FIFA says 75 percent of the profits from major tournaments are returned to national associations who decide what to do with the money. The G14 also wants to be included when the international calendar is agreed.
The possible impact on the game is so large that the G14 could succeed in having the case referred to the European Court of Justice in Luxembourg.
The last major case in football to be referred to the EU court also started in Belgium and that decision just over a decade ago shook football to its foundations.
The 'Bosman' ruling, after a case brought by Jean-Marc Bosman, gave players the power to move freely between clubs when out of contract, increasing player power enormously.
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Manneken Pis
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Not really news, more of a confirmation really, but anyway, interesting article on the the G14 (including Ajax)........
Takeover bid could change face of football
This would mean end of national teams, says Uefa
Matt Scott
Saturday March 18, 2006
The Guardian
When Jose Mourinho complained vociferously last week about Chelsea's inability to become a member of G14, it was interpreted as evidence of a widening gulf between the manager and his chief executive Peter Kenyon. It seems now, however, that Mourinho was racked with a deeper and more pressing fear: that of being disenfranchised from the top table of European football.
G14, comprising 18 of Europe's richest football powers, has launched an attempt to kill off the Champions League in its present form and seize ownership of the game's most prestigious club competition. The G14 group, whose members include Manchester United, Liverpool and Arsenal, has agreed an internal policy document, exclusively obtained by the Guardian, which outlines their intention to guarantee the dominance of their 18 clubs in European football.
The plan outlined in the document marks a dramatic change in their stance. In its G14 Vision Europe blueprint, the organisation acknowledges that in the past it has been little more than a pressure group, relying on the reputations of its members to influence the future direction of European football. However the policy document indicates a massive shift in strategy over the past six months.
It states: "From the beginning, G14's strategy was to act as a 'professional lobbying' organisation on behalf of Europe's top-level clubs ... It was felt in 2001 that, only in extreme cases and as an ultimate recourse, should G14 contest and fight openly on issues. . . it may be that we have now reached the point where we might wish to reconsider this latter approach."
This is more than idle introspection. Last September, G14 became a co-signatory to the case being brought by Royal Charleroi against Fifa, challenging the legality of the world governing body's regulations over the release of players for international duty. Charleroi's Morocco international Abdelmajid Oulmers had returned from a match against Burkina Faso with an ankle injury and his club were refused compensation. The case, in which G14 will argue that the rules are an illegal abuse of Fifa's dominant position as the game's regulator and commercial agent by organising international tournaments, goes to Belgium's Charleroi Commercial Court on Monday.
Also last September, G14's general assembly of member clubs commissioned its Vision Europe document, the first draft of which was drawn up by the management committee, whose general manager is Thomas Kurth.
The very presence of Kurth at G14 has always led to speculation about the organisation's motives for he joined just over five years ago after a decade spent working for Uefa as its head of competitions.
The multilingual Swiss had been the tournament coordinator for the 1992 and 1996 European Championships, as well as every finals tournament of the Champions League; with the latest revelations, it appears long-held concerns over G14's intentions for European club competitions have been well founded.
There are parallels between what the 18 traditional elite clubs intend for the European game and the "land grab" it is believed the professional game is attempting to engineer from the Football Association in this country.
Here it is widely assumed that, coinciding with the Burns report, Premiership clubs are seeking the division of governance and revenue generation. Unlike G14's Vision Europe, however, there has never been any explicit policy document to that effect. "The areas of authority and competence of the European football 'regulator' [ie the governing body] on the one hand, and the 'club body' in charge of the clubs' international competitions on the other, would be clearly and adequately defined," says G14's Vision Europe.
Uefa, whose position as tournament organiser for the Champions League would also be threatened by G14's legal challenge in Belgium, will vigorously defend itself. The European governing body had released its own strategy document, also entitled "Vision Europe", 11 months ago which stated: "This document unashamedly presents the G14's position in a similar way to that laid out by Uefa."
The competition as it currently exists was born of a previous challenge from Europe's richest clubs, in the early 1990s, when they argued that the pure knockout format of the tournament was too hazardous. Uefa responded to those complaints by setting up the Champions League, with its initial group stage. In the 13 years since, every victorious club has been part of that exclusive group. G14 Vision Europe would take this still further.
"It is apartheid: it would be the end of the European model of football," said Uefa's communications director William Gaillard. "They want to get rid of promotion and relegation and introduce the American model of a closed league. They might as well transform football into American professional wrestling where everything is predictable because it has all been mapped out before. It would also be the end of national teams."
Pressure has been building on Uefa's position ever since Media Partners, an Italy-based company, attempted to organise a club breakaway in 1998. That time, the European governing body headed off the challenge by expanding the Champions League from 16 to 32 clubs. How they respond to the latest threat appears set to define the landscape of European club football.
G14's 18 members:
Ajax, Arsenal, Barcelona, Bayer Leverkusen, Bayern Munich, Borussia Dortmund, Internazionale, Juventus, Liverpool, Lyon, Manchester Utd, Marseille, Milan, Paris St-Germain, Porto, PSV Eindhoven, Real Madrid, Valencia
Takeover bid could change face of football
This would mean end of national teams, says Uefa
Matt Scott
Saturday March 18, 2006
The Guardian
When Jose Mourinho complained vociferously last week about Chelsea's inability to become a member of G14, it was interpreted as evidence of a widening gulf between the manager and his chief executive Peter Kenyon. It seems now, however, that Mourinho was racked with a deeper and more pressing fear: that of being disenfranchised from the top table of European football.
G14, comprising 18 of Europe's richest football powers, has launched an attempt to kill off the Champions League in its present form and seize ownership of the game's most prestigious club competition. The G14 group, whose members include Manchester United, Liverpool and Arsenal, has agreed an internal policy document, exclusively obtained by the Guardian, which outlines their intention to guarantee the dominance of their 18 clubs in European football.
The plan outlined in the document marks a dramatic change in their stance. In its G14 Vision Europe blueprint, the organisation acknowledges that in the past it has been little more than a pressure group, relying on the reputations of its members to influence the future direction of European football. However the policy document indicates a massive shift in strategy over the past six months.
It states: "From the beginning, G14's strategy was to act as a 'professional lobbying' organisation on behalf of Europe's top-level clubs ... It was felt in 2001 that, only in extreme cases and as an ultimate recourse, should G14 contest and fight openly on issues. . . it may be that we have now reached the point where we might wish to reconsider this latter approach."
This is more than idle introspection. Last September, G14 became a co-signatory to the case being brought by Royal Charleroi against Fifa, challenging the legality of the world governing body's regulations over the release of players for international duty. Charleroi's Morocco international Abdelmajid Oulmers had returned from a match against Burkina Faso with an ankle injury and his club were refused compensation. The case, in which G14 will argue that the rules are an illegal abuse of Fifa's dominant position as the game's regulator and commercial agent by organising international tournaments, goes to Belgium's Charleroi Commercial Court on Monday.
Also last September, G14's general assembly of member clubs commissioned its Vision Europe document, the first draft of which was drawn up by the management committee, whose general manager is Thomas Kurth.
The very presence of Kurth at G14 has always led to speculation about the organisation's motives for he joined just over five years ago after a decade spent working for Uefa as its head of competitions.
The multilingual Swiss had been the tournament coordinator for the 1992 and 1996 European Championships, as well as every finals tournament of the Champions League; with the latest revelations, it appears long-held concerns over G14's intentions for European club competitions have been well founded.
There are parallels between what the 18 traditional elite clubs intend for the European game and the "land grab" it is believed the professional game is attempting to engineer from the Football Association in this country.
Here it is widely assumed that, coinciding with the Burns report, Premiership clubs are seeking the division of governance and revenue generation. Unlike G14's Vision Europe, however, there has never been any explicit policy document to that effect. "The areas of authority and competence of the European football 'regulator' [ie the governing body] on the one hand, and the 'club body' in charge of the clubs' international competitions on the other, would be clearly and adequately defined," says G14's Vision Europe.
Uefa, whose position as tournament organiser for the Champions League would also be threatened by G14's legal challenge in Belgium, will vigorously defend itself. The European governing body had released its own strategy document, also entitled "Vision Europe", 11 months ago which stated: "This document unashamedly presents the G14's position in a similar way to that laid out by Uefa."
The competition as it currently exists was born of a previous challenge from Europe's richest clubs, in the early 1990s, when they argued that the pure knockout format of the tournament was too hazardous. Uefa responded to those complaints by setting up the Champions League, with its initial group stage. In the 13 years since, every victorious club has been part of that exclusive group. G14 Vision Europe would take this still further.
"It is apartheid: it would be the end of the European model of football," said Uefa's communications director William Gaillard. "They want to get rid of promotion and relegation and introduce the American model of a closed league. They might as well transform football into American professional wrestling where everything is predictable because it has all been mapped out before. It would also be the end of national teams."
Pressure has been building on Uefa's position ever since Media Partners, an Italy-based company, attempted to organise a club breakaway in 1998. That time, the European governing body headed off the challenge by expanding the Champions League from 16 to 32 clubs. How they respond to the latest threat appears set to define the landscape of European club football.
G14's 18 members:
Ajax, Arsenal, Barcelona, Bayer Leverkusen, Bayern Munich, Borussia Dortmund, Internazionale, Juventus, Liverpool, Lyon, Manchester Utd, Marseille, Milan, Paris St-Germain, Porto, PSV Eindhoven, Real Madrid, Valencia
“If I wanted you to understand it, I would have explained it better.”
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DanK
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G14 says 'no' to rival UCL
Reuters
The G14 group, which represents 18 of the world's richest clubs, says it does not intend to form a breakaway elite European league.
Media reports on Saturday said the organisation, which includes clubs like Manchester United, Real Madrid and AC Milan, was proposing the setting up of a new European competition for which its clubs would be guaranteed entry every year.
However, G14 spokesman James Thelluson told Reuters: "We do not intend to form an alternative to the Champions League."
The prospect of a rival to UEFA's Champions League would be a severe blow to European football's governing body but the G14 says it makes no sense to leave the competition.
You can read more here:
http://wwiii.sbs.com.au/home/index.php3?id=68987
Reuters
The G14 group, which represents 18 of the world's richest clubs, says it does not intend to form a breakaway elite European league.
Media reports on Saturday said the organisation, which includes clubs like Manchester United, Real Madrid and AC Milan, was proposing the setting up of a new European competition for which its clubs would be guaranteed entry every year.
However, G14 spokesman James Thelluson told Reuters: "We do not intend to form an alternative to the Champions League."
The prospect of a rival to UEFA's Champions League would be a severe blow to European football's governing body but the G14 says it makes no sense to leave the competition.
You can read more here:
http://wwiii.sbs.com.au/home/index.php3?id=68987
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DrDuncan
That's understandable.
But looking at the games that our closest rivals have till the end of the season I'm confident we will be in the top 5. Utrecht have the easiest programme and might overtake us, but the rest shouldn't be able to catch us.
The most important game for us is AZ. Having lost all our games so far against the teams we will have to beat in the play-offs, psychologically we need a convincing win to give us the confidence to believe we can do it.
But looking at the games that our closest rivals have till the end of the season I'm confident we will be in the top 5. Utrecht have the easiest programme and might overtake us, but the rest shouldn't be able to catch us.
The most important game for us is AZ. Having lost all our games so far against the teams we will have to beat in the play-offs, psychologically we need a convincing win to give us the confidence to believe we can do it.
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SE6Ajacied
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Well, this one seems set to run and run.....
From www.bbc.co.uk
"Uefa issues threat to big clubs
The G14 group wants a greater say in how football is run
Uefa has threatened clubs with expulsion from their domestic leagues if they try to form a rival tournament.
"Uefa will not stand in the way of those who want to leave the family - (which also means the domestic competitions)," said Uefa.
"You cannot 'pick and choose'," the statement added, which did not specifically name the G14.
The G14 group represents 18 of the world's richest clubs, including Manchester United, Liverpool and Arsenal.
G14 general manager Thomas Kurth said: "This attack on G-14 does not mean the issues which we are fighting for will go away.
"At the moment, the rules of the game are written by the federations, for the federations. Professional clubs have no direct representation and that needs to change.
"These threats are simply an attempt to defend the position of the federations and not deal openly with the real bones of contention such as representation, player insurance and compensation."
While denying they want to form a breakaway rival tournament, Europe's biggest clubs do want the format of the Champions League changed to increase the number of games.
A 2003 revamp led to more knockout ties but fewer games overall and G14 has been unhappy over the revenue loss.
"We are not talking about doubling the number of games, it may be adding just one or two," Barcelona vice-president Ferran Soriano told BBC Sport.
"We have to have the opportunity to participate in the final decision."
Fifa president Sepp Blatter, who attended the Uefa Congress in Budapest where the statement was released, thanked Europe's governing body for its support over the Charleroi court case.
Belgian club Charleroi, backed by G14, are taking world governing body Fifa to court, claiming compensation over a player injured in an international match.
Moroccan Abdelmajid Oulmers was out for eight months after playing against Burkina Faso in November 2004.
G14 wants the regulations surrounding the compulsory release of players for international matches changed and clubs to be compensated if players are injured playing for their countries.
"Everything that happens in European football has an influence on global football," said Blatter.
"Can you conceive football without the national teams or the national associations?
"It would mean the collapse of the whole pyramid of football because of the elitism of a few." "
From www.bbc.co.uk
"Uefa issues threat to big clubs
The G14 group wants a greater say in how football is run
Uefa has threatened clubs with expulsion from their domestic leagues if they try to form a rival tournament.
"Uefa will not stand in the way of those who want to leave the family - (which also means the domestic competitions)," said Uefa.
"You cannot 'pick and choose'," the statement added, which did not specifically name the G14.
The G14 group represents 18 of the world's richest clubs, including Manchester United, Liverpool and Arsenal.
G14 general manager Thomas Kurth said: "This attack on G-14 does not mean the issues which we are fighting for will go away.
"At the moment, the rules of the game are written by the federations, for the federations. Professional clubs have no direct representation and that needs to change.
"These threats are simply an attempt to defend the position of the federations and not deal openly with the real bones of contention such as representation, player insurance and compensation."
While denying they want to form a breakaway rival tournament, Europe's biggest clubs do want the format of the Champions League changed to increase the number of games.
A 2003 revamp led to more knockout ties but fewer games overall and G14 has been unhappy over the revenue loss.
"We are not talking about doubling the number of games, it may be adding just one or two," Barcelona vice-president Ferran Soriano told BBC Sport.
"We have to have the opportunity to participate in the final decision."
Fifa president Sepp Blatter, who attended the Uefa Congress in Budapest where the statement was released, thanked Europe's governing body for its support over the Charleroi court case.
Belgian club Charleroi, backed by G14, are taking world governing body Fifa to court, claiming compensation over a player injured in an international match.
Moroccan Abdelmajid Oulmers was out for eight months after playing against Burkina Faso in November 2004.
G14 wants the regulations surrounding the compulsory release of players for international matches changed and clubs to be compensated if players are injured playing for their countries.
"Everything that happens in European football has an influence on global football," said Blatter.
"Can you conceive football without the national teams or the national associations?
"It would mean the collapse of the whole pyramid of football because of the elitism of a few." "
Forza Haarlem. HFC Gone but not forgotten!
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DanK
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Dutch fuming over tickets
Reuters
Dutch fans are fuming after being allocated only eight percent of tickets from those available for matches featuring the Netherlands at the World Cup.
"It's outrageous that FIFA has not given more tickets," Orange Supporters Club chairman Lloyd Vandenberg was quoted as saying by Dutch news agency ANP on Friday.
A lottery, organised by the supporters' club and the Dutch football association, distributed 18,000 tickets although around 180,000 fans had hoped to follow the progress of their nation during the June 9-July 9 tournament in Germany.
The shortage has caused prices to skyrocket on the black market even though World Cup organisers have warned fans would be denied entry to the stadiums if they do not buy their tickets through official outlets.
Tickets for Netherlands-Ivory Coast in the first round are offered for about 1,100 euros ($A1,846) on the internet, ANP said. Tickets made available though the lottery were only 50 euros ($A83.92).
"These are really absurd prices," Vandenberg said.
"That's the result when FIFA releases so few tickets. Someone with a fat wallet might be willing to pay those prices, but the real football fan won't even stand a chance."
Reuters
Dutch fans are fuming after being allocated only eight percent of tickets from those available for matches featuring the Netherlands at the World Cup.
"It's outrageous that FIFA has not given more tickets," Orange Supporters Club chairman Lloyd Vandenberg was quoted as saying by Dutch news agency ANP on Friday.
A lottery, organised by the supporters' club and the Dutch football association, distributed 18,000 tickets although around 180,000 fans had hoped to follow the progress of their nation during the June 9-July 9 tournament in Germany.
The shortage has caused prices to skyrocket on the black market even though World Cup organisers have warned fans would be denied entry to the stadiums if they do not buy their tickets through official outlets.
Tickets for Netherlands-Ivory Coast in the first round are offered for about 1,100 euros ($A1,846) on the internet, ANP said. Tickets made available though the lottery were only 50 euros ($A83.92).
"These are really absurd prices," Vandenberg said.
"That's the result when FIFA releases so few tickets. Someone with a fat wallet might be willing to pay those prices, but the real football fan won't even stand a chance."
According to information published in "Le Monde" today, the financial situation of serie A is disastrous. The total yearly loss of the 20 serie A teams amounts to 400 million euros. It is about 30% of the total yearly income. Only juventus, ac Milan and inter Milan are making (huge) profits. However, juventus shares lost 59% of their initial price from 2001.
Appie, stay strong !
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DanK
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Quick, better the the G14 involved. It must be UEFA's fault. :Dphilippe schreef:According to information published in "Le Monde" today, the financial situation of serie A is disastrous. The total yearly loss of the 20 serie A teams amounts to 400 million euros. It is about 30% of the total yearly income. Only juventus, ac Milan and inter Milan are making (huge) profits. However, juventus shares lost 59% of their initial price from 2001.
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Over Pasanens Head
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The push for europe is still on for one club anyway. 5 games to go :headbang:
Premier Division
Braintree Town 81pts
Fisher Athletic 72
Heybridge Swifts 69
Hampton & Richmond Borough 66
Staines Town 66
Worthing 66
AFC Wimbledon 65
Premier Division
Braintree Town 81pts
Fisher Athletic 72
Heybridge Swifts 69
Hampton & Richmond Borough 66
Staines Town 66
Worthing 66
AFC Wimbledon 65
Well rock and roll is such a crazy drug,
It wraps you up in a great big hug
It wraps you up in a great big hug
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jamcocteau
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OPH, how many teams go up from this league.Over Pasanens Head schreef:The push for europe is still on for one club anyway. 5 games to go :headbang:
Premier Division
Braintree Town 81pts
Fisher Athletic 72
Heybridge Swifts 69
Hampton & Richmond Borough 66
Staines Town 66
Worthing 66
AFC Wimbledon 65
Used to live across from the Fisher ground, the Surrey Docks Stadium, in Rotherhithe. Went to see them a few times as well. Heard their ground is now being rebuilt.
Used to stand out even more at their ground than at the ArenA whilst roaring abuse at the opposition in my dulcet scottish tone
:D
So c'mon ra Fish.
O would some power the giftie gie us to see ourselves as others see us.
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Over Pasanens Head
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The top team goes up automatically whilst the next 4 teams enter the dreaded playoffs playing for the other promotion place.jamcocteau schreef:OPH, how many teams go up from this league.Over Pasanens Head schreef:The push for europe is still on for one club anyway. 5 games to go :headbang:
Premier Division
Braintree Town 81pts
Fisher Athletic 72
Heybridge Swifts 69
Hampton & Richmond Borough 66
Staines Town 66
Worthing 66
AFC Wimbledon 65
Used to actually live across from the Fisher ground, the Surrey Docks Stadium, in Rotherhithe. Went to see them a few times as well. Heard their ground is now being rebuilt.
Actually, used to stand out even more at their ground than at the ArenA whilst roaring abuse at the opposition in my dulcet scottish tone
:D
So c'mon ra Fish.
Well rock and roll is such a crazy drug,
It wraps you up in a great big hug
It wraps you up in a great big hug
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SE6Ajacied
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Hmm, well seeing as Croydon are nowhere to be found (I think they are the league below) I'm torn between Fisher and AFC Dons as a South Londoner. If I was a betting man, I'd say Wimbledon.Over Pasanens Head schreef:The push for europe is still on for one club anyway. 5 games to go :headbang:
Premier Division
Braintree Town 81pts
Fisher Athletic 72
Heybridge Swifts 69
Hampton & Richmond Borough 66
Staines Town 66
Worthing 66
AFC Wimbledon 65
Forza Haarlem. HFC Gone but not forgotten!
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SE6Ajacied
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I don't know if Ajacied from around the world will remember 'Auf Wiedersehen Pet' from 1980's British TV but if you do then you'll know the classic theme tune "That's Living Alright", now re-made for the World Cup as "That's England Alright". You can hear it it here
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4878970.stm
A bit :pukey: this one ;)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4878970.stm
A bit :pukey: this one ;)
Forza Haarlem. HFC Gone but not forgotten!
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Over Pasanens Head
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Another piece of very local football news is that I watched my youngest son dislocate his shoulder last night in a charity cup final. It was quickly popped back at the hospital and he still managed to end the night down the pub with his team-mates drowning their sorrows at a 1-0 defeat. (wonder where he gets his drinking habits from? - must be his mother).
Well rock and roll is such a crazy drug,
It wraps you up in a great big hug
It wraps you up in a great big hug
Once again lads, Clarence Seedorf covering every blade of grass on the pitch, picking the ball up at the edge of his area and spraying passes all over the pitch, supplying killer passes at the edge of the lyon box and down the flanks, having a few long range drives, he is the very heart of the milan midfield. but he can't even get on the dutch panel?????
No comprende!!! :nooo:
No comprende!!! :nooo:
Brian, do you remember the episode from the first series when Oz buys a tv/radio combi from a fellow Brit? If you ever happen to see that episode again listen out for the commentary of the game they are tuned into. You may be surprised to realise it is from a match involving Ajax and Bayern. The Dutch commentator can be heard describing a goal scored by Peter Boeve. :headbang: :headbang:SE6Ajacied schreef:I don't know if Ajacied from around the world will remember 'Auf Wiedersehen Pet' from 1980's British TV but if you do then you'll know the classic theme tune "That's Living Alright", now re-made for the World Cup as "That's England Alright". You can hear it it here
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4878970.stm
A bit :pukey: this one ;)
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SE6Ajacied
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I'll have to watch that again - I've got the first series on dvd. I think that episode proves that the writers know nothing about football though, a Geordie would really go along to support Sunderland like that.......of course :offtopic:dws schreef:Brian, do you remember the episode from the first series when Oz buys a tv/radio combi from a fellow Brit? If you ever happen to see that episode again listen out for the commentary of the game they are tuned into. You may be surprised to realise it is from a match involving Ajax and Bayern. The Dutch commentator can be heard describing a goal scored by Peter Boeve. :headbang: :headbang:SE6Ajacied schreef:I don't know if Ajacied from around the world will remember 'Auf Wiedersehen Pet' from 1980's British TV but if you do then you'll know the classic theme tune "That's Living Alright", now re-made for the World Cup as "That's England Alright". You can hear it it here
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4878970.stm
A bit :pukey: this one ;)
Forza Haarlem. HFC Gone but not forgotten!
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What programme was it Ayman?Ayman schreef:Did anyone see this programme last night, I forgot the name of it, it was about rivalry in football, they mentioned the Celtic/Rangers and River Plate/Boca Juniors rivalry, and then went on to the Ajax/Feyenoord rivalry, and guess what, Menno Pot was in it, well done Menno, good show!
Well rock and roll is such a crazy drug,
It wraps you up in a great big hug
It wraps you up in a great big hug
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I didn't see it but 'UKTV History' cable TV channel are showing "The History of Football" on Wednesday night's at the moment. It's quite an old series though - was that the one Ayman, Menno????Over Pasanens Head schreef:What programme was it Ayman?Ayman schreef:Did anyone see this programme last night, I forgot the name of it, it was about rivalry in football, they mentioned the Celtic/Rangers and River Plate/Boca Juniors rivalry, and then went on to the Ajax/Feyenoord rivalry, and guess what, Menno Pot was in it, well done Menno, good show!
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Nope - that can't be it.SE6Ajacied schreef:I didn't see it but 'UKTV History' cable TV channel are showing "The History of Football" on Wednesday night's at the moment. It's quite an old series though - was that the one Ayman, Menno????
To be honest with you I neither know what it's called, nor did I know when it would be shown. All I know is that it's about football supporters and their love for their clubs...
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