Julien Escudé

ferry · Bericht door **ferry** » di jan 17, 2006 12:59 pm

I have to be honest here: in the first year and maybe part of his second year I really thought that EscudÃ© just had a lack of quality for Ajax. He's slow -- which is on itself not the worst if he could compensate it with tactical skills, but that wasn't always the case either.

Later he played some decent games and I thought he was a good match with Grygera in the center of our defense. And it seemed that he grew to a higher level as well.

Especially now the defense is so poor I don't understand why they let this guy go.

bryan · Bericht door **bryan** » di jan 17, 2006 5:10 pm

Blind seems to be continuing Koeman's work.

What a joke.

carcajou · Bericht door **carcajou** » di jan 17, 2006 10:13 pm

I guess this is good bye :sad:

You got class, but unfortunately not the credit you deserved.

Au revoir Capitaine. Vous me manquerez.

Ayman · Bericht door **Ayman** » di jan 17, 2006 10:25 pm

Its a good thing that he has gone, we already have good central defenders in Grygera, Vermaelen and Heitinga, YES! heitinga, he is a good player and he will do well this season, all we need now is another left footed centre back, I say we go for Hengaaland of Norway or Arnold Kruyswijk of Groningen, they are 20 and 21 respectively. What do you guys think?

Bericht door **Kowalczyk** » di jan 17, 2006 10:27 pm

According to Sky Sports it's a done deal. Ajax and Sevilla did not confirm it yet, but I'm sure it's going to be finalized tomorrow...

K.

Philippe · Bericht door **Philippe** » wo jan 18, 2006 9:56 am

Ayman schreef: we already have good central defenders in Grygera, Vermaelen and Heitinga

:drecul2:

that was a good laugh, thanks

Bericht door **Kowalczyk** » wo jan 18, 2006 9:59 am

philippe schreef:
Ayman schreef: we already have good central defenders in Grygera, Vermaelen and Heitinga
:drecul2:

that was a good laugh, thanks

Ayman: the defenders you summed up are, respectively, a great one, a talented one and a shit one, to be honest...

K.

orange goblin · Bericht door **orange goblin** » wo jan 18, 2006 10:30 am

and I think the left footed defender is not arriving from a transfer move, but from our youth development: mr robbert schilder...

so in defense I suspect that Ajax will go (at least I hope so..) for a right back, maybe good also for playing CB..years ago there were rumours about Alcides, Benfica and former Schalke 04..who knows...

orange goblin · Bericht door **orange goblin** » wo jan 18, 2006 11:28 am

official: julien is gone..goodbye mate, it was not the story I thought to hear when you arrived...

Bericht door **Kowalczyk** » wo jan 18, 2006 11:31 am

Yep. Done deal.

I feel very sorry about this.

Merci, Julien... X'C

K.

Feest · Bericht door **Feest** » wo jan 18, 2006 11:37 am

Well, you also felt very sorry when Bergdolmo left. And he turned out to be disgracefully bad at Dortmund.

The few times I saw Escude play for Young Ajax he was terrible. Certainly didn't look like he was 100% fit, or that he'd ever become so again.

Good deal for Ajax. This guy won't make the grade at Seville either.

Bericht door **Kowalczyk** » wo jan 18, 2006 1:22 pm

News report is up now...

http://www.ajax-usa.com/news/2005-2006/ ... villa.html

K.

Over Pasanens Head · Bericht door **Over Pasanens Head** » wo jan 18, 2006 1:24 pm

Bloody stupid decision to let him go. :nooo:

I wish him all the best in Spain. :xyxthumbs:

dws · Bericht door **dws** » wo jan 18, 2006 11:23 pm

A decent enough player. Ajax should have a whip round and buy Escude a cushion .... he'll need it . ;)

Venezuelan Ajacied · Bericht door **Venezuelan Ajacied** » wo jan 18, 2006 11:36 pm

"From heaven to hell in 24 hours" a story by Julien EscudÃ¨. I'm glad its over for SQD he deserves better than reserve football. Good luck Julien and merci for the good time's. ;)

__earth · Bericht door **__earth** » do jan 19, 2006 7:00 pm

we have a blind coach. :nooo:

ozzerdibazio · Bericht door **ozzerdibazio** » vr jan 20, 2006 10:13 am

what a disgrace. I dont understand how this can be justified, when somebody like Heitinga is making the starting lineup. Escude was a very good defender and a very good person. A real proffessional, and i thought a long term captain. Abysmal. I genuinely want Blind out, he just annoys me.

Manneken Pis · Bericht door **Manneken Pis** » vr jan 20, 2006 10:48 am

ozzerdibazio schreef:what a disgrace. I dont understand how this can be justified, when somebody like Heitinga is making the starting lineup. Escude was a very good defender and a very good person. A real proffessional, and i thought a long term captain. Abysmal. I genuinely want Blind out, he just annoys me.

I couldn't have put it better myself....the Escude/Heitinga comparison really shows how ridiculous things have got.

dws · Bericht door **dws** » vr jan 20, 2006 11:25 am

Manneken Pis schreef:
ozzerdibazio schreef:what a disgrace. I dont understand how this can be justified, when somebody like Heitinga is making the starting lineup. Escude was a very good defender and a very good person. A real proffessional, and i thought a long term captain. Abysmal. I genuinely want Blind out, he just annoys me.
I couldn't have put it better myself....the Escude/Heitinga comparison really shows how ridiculous things have got.

Jeeesuuuuus!!!!! you would think we had chosen to dispense with Blind at his best in order to keep Hans Werdekker.

ozzerdibazio · Bericht door **ozzerdibazio** » vr jan 20, 2006 2:09 pm

I understand what your saying DWS, but the fact is Escude is better than Heitinga. He was our best player last season and looking likely for a call up to the french national team. After one bad game against Feyenoord he is gone. Blind has been in the Job for a year, and in my opinion he is the wrong man. There is no way he or anybody can Justify selling Escude. I accept Julien isnt a danny Blind "how ironic" but he cant justify selling him. I just think it's a real shame. It annoys me as well about Charisteas, as soon as he is coming good, he is told he is surplus to requirements. Why? Personally i think he's better than Rosenberg.

dws · Bericht door **dws** » vr jan 20, 2006 2:16 pm

ozzerdibazio schreef:I understand what your saying DWS, but the fact is Escude is better than Heitinga. He was our best player last season and looking likely for a call up to the french national team. After one bad game against Feyenoord he is gone. Blind has been in the Job for a year, and in my opinion he is the wrong man. There is no way he or anybody can Justify selling Escude. I accept Julien isnt a danny Blind "how ironic" but he cant justify selling him. I just think it's a real shame. It annoys me as well about Charisteas, as soon as he is coming good, he is told he is surplus to requirements. Why? Personally i think he's better than Rosenberg.

Escude has certainly shown better form than Heitinga, but neither player is of the quality that Ajax requires.

Surstad · Bericht door **Surstad** » vr jan 20, 2006 2:17 pm

Ayman schreef:Its a good thing that he has gone, we already have good central defenders in Grygera, Vermaelen and Heitinga, YES! heitinga, he is a good player and he will do well this season, all we need now is another left footed centre back, I say we go for Hengaaland of Norway or Arnold Kruyswijk of Groningen, they are 20 and 21 respectively. What do you guys think?

Unfortunately Hangeland has already signed up with FC Copenhagen for an undisclosed fee. I guess its around 1,3 million Euro, though.

Bericht door **Kowalczyk** » ma jan 23, 2006 12:20 am

A little bit of a sad moment, people... The last EscudÃ© discussion seems to have died down, so I will close this thread. If you have anything to say about EscudÃ©, or if you want to update your fellow Ajax fans on his achievements with Sevilla, please do it in the Former Ajax Players thread.

http://www.ajaxtalk.nl/portal/viewtopic.php?t=4614

K.