New Players for Ajax

ZoefdeHaas · Bericht door **ZoefdeHaas** » do dec 22, 2005 3:27 pm

Ajax already stated theyr enot interested anymore, and looks like he's already off to Spurs

Philippe · Bericht door **Philippe** » do dec 22, 2005 3:53 pm

yep, that's what they said on VI.nl; over

AjaxPDX · Bericht door **AjaxPDX** » do dec 22, 2005 5:27 pm

We've been saying we need someone rock solid, someone like Stam. Well, upon agreeing to terms with Vlaar, Jol at Tottenham immediately said that he has now signed the "new Stam."

Who would've thought? ;)

Dubbel · Bericht door **Dubbel** » do dec 22, 2005 5:52 pm

Does anyone know if Vlaar actually wants to move to the Spurs? He always claimed he wanted to go to Ajax. My guess is also that he won't play much in his first half year in England and if so he'll be giving up his potential spot in de Dutch World Cup squad. Also he is still young and he seems like the type that would rather stay close to his family for a few more years.

If he really wants to come to Ajax then AZ can't sell him to the Spurs against his will... But I suppose Ajax saying that they're no longer interested in him doesn't help our case much.

Van der Vaart · Bericht door **Van der Vaart** » do dec 22, 2005 6:22 pm

i do not know if Vlaar is a good for our defense...

I think we need an older defenser ,with experience...our team is too young ,we need an old player...

I think Opdan or Chivu are Good for our defense ...

ZoefdeHaas · Bericht door **ZoefdeHaas** » vr dec 23, 2005 3:56 am

Our defense is already good. Could use some improvment but its not like we concede 2+ goals per game?

AsgAarD_xxx · Bericht door **AsgAarD_xxx** » vr dec 23, 2005 3:35 pm

ZoefdeHaas schreef:Let's get Huth.

I hope it was only joke... He is the worst defender in Germany squad and I really don't know why Klinsmann moved Huth to the first squad... But if you want any defenders from Germany in Ajax- Per Mertesacker would be OK.

Bericht door **Kowalczyk** » vr dec 23, 2005 3:48 pm

BREAKING NEWS

According to Talpa TV it's a done deal: they claim that 'KJH' a.k.a. The Hunter is undergoing his medical tests at the VU Hospital in Amsterdam as we speak, and that he will be officially presented later today.

Transfer fee: unknown.

No-one else than Talpa runs it as news at the moment, but they seem to be quite sure!

K.

Bericht door **Jinne** » vr dec 23, 2005 4:29 pm

The NOS reports it too now. So it looks like KJ will play his last match with Heerenveen against Ajax and one of his first matches with Ajax against Heerenveen. :)

ZoefdeHaas · Bericht door **ZoefdeHaas** » vr dec 23, 2005 5:01 pm

Quick get the camera people its the HUNTER! :D

Bericht door **Kowalczyk** » vr dec 23, 2005 5:16 pm

Jinne schreef:The NOS reports it too now. So it looks like KJ will play his last match with Heerenveen against Ajax and one of his first matches with Ajax against Heerenveen. :)

My gut feeling is that - somehow - he will not play against Ajax on the 30th (which is, of course, very good news...). Fair chance that Ajax demanded this, as part of the deal.

It will be almost impossible for him to play. What if he gets an enormous chance, genuinely attempts to score but misses it...? It would be too... complicated.

Safe bet: he won't play on the 30th.

K.

Bericht door **Jinne** » vr dec 23, 2005 5:30 pm

I don't think Ajax can demand and KJ probably wants to play the game badly too. So if there's someone keeping him out of the line-up it's probably Verbeek who wants to keep away any contraversy. If he plays it will be the oddest day in his carreer though. Only 28 hours away of being an Ajacied, he still has to play against us.

Bericht door **Kowalczyk** » vr dec 23, 2005 5:37 pm

Jinne schreef:I don't think Ajax can demand

Officially - no. But in practice...? My bet is that it's part of the 'gentlemen's agreement'.

SCH: "We want 8 million!"
AFCA: "7.5...?" (thinking: well, 8 is alright, but let's see what we can do...)
SCH: "No way! 8 million, take it or leave it."
AFCA: "Well... okay! But hey, folks, let's face it: if we pay you 8 million we don't want this dude to play against us next week..."
SCH: "Point taken. Fair enough. We have a deal, gentlemen."

That's how it works, let's face it.

So if there's someone keeping him out of the line-up it's probably Verbeek who wants to keep away any contraversy.

Which he will definitely do. What if he plays KJH and he misses an enormous, crucial chance...? The discussion will go on forever.

He will be 'injured' or something on the 30th - mark my words.

K.

carcajou · Bericht door **carcajou** » vr dec 23, 2005 6:53 pm

Yeah it's classical.... He'll have a cold or something.

Now the question is : why did we get this guy ?

Does that mean that the board somehow admits that the money invested in Charisteas and Rosenberg was pure loss ?

What will happen with Babel ? And Anastasiou ?

I am not saying that signing that this move to sign Klaas Jan Huntelaar who has scored more goals alone that the whole Ajax team since the beginning of the season wasn't smart... But that sure leaves some open questions.....

Bericht door **Kowalczyk** » vr dec 23, 2005 7:51 pm

My two cents...

carcajou schreef:Does that mean that the board somehow admits that the money invested in Charisteas and Rosenberg was pure loss ?

In a way: yes. I don't think this is the official confirmation that Chari and Rosenberg were bad buys, but I do believe that the board realize what they've done wrong: they bought two strikers who were never (at their previous clubs) known as prolific goalscorers. None of the two was (or ever will be) a 20-goal-striker. They're more like 10-goal-strikers and the board now realize that we need a f*cking hitman upfront.

What will happen with Babel ?

Babel is very young and absolutely not the number one. He will have to be patient. That's completely normal. Unfortunately he has already started to moan (via his agent), but why in the name of Sweet Jesus would he have to be our starter at #9...?? He's a youngster. A reserve player who's time will come. If he doesn't understand that, he's overrating himself.

And Anastasiou ?

Plain simple: no new contract. He's gone at season's end.

The deal is: we need three quality strikers - and only one of the three can be a young kid from the youth system (that's Babel). The other two, in my opinion, should be Rosenberg and KJH. Charisteas may be sold. He's scored 6 out of 7 this season, so it should be possible to get the 4.5 million we paid for him -- or something that comes reasonably close.

K.

Dubbel · Bericht door **Dubbel** » vr dec 23, 2005 7:55 pm

Klaas the Man! I really hope this deal pulls through. A high quality Dutch forward that actually fits a 433... :eusa_pray:

john_stein · Bericht door **john_stein** » vr dec 23, 2005 8:03 pm

there's an official announcement on the AJAX website, can someone translate it please? ;)

Venezuelan Ajacied · Bericht door **Venezuelan Ajacied** » vr dec 23, 2005 8:19 pm

Kowalczyk schreef:
Jinne schreef:I don't think Ajax can demand
Officially - no. But in practice...? My bet is that it's part of the 'gentlemen's agreement'.

SCH: "We want 8 million!"
AFCA: "7.5...?" (thinking: well, 8 is alright, but let's see what we can do...)
SCH: "No way! 8 million, take it or leave it."
AFCA: "Well... okay! But hey, folks, let's face it: if we pay you 8 million we don't want this dude to play against us next week..."
SCH: "Point taken. Fair enough. We have a deal, gentlemen."

That's how it works, let's face it.

So if there's someone keeping him out of the line-up it's probably Verbeek who wants to keep away any contraversy.
Which he will definitely do. What if he plays KJH and he misses an enormous, crucial chance...? The discussion will go on forever.

He will be 'injured' or something on the 30th - mark my words.

K.

But will he play against his former team in the Gatorade Cup ???

Bericht door **Kowalczyk** » vr dec 23, 2005 9:54 pm

Oh yeah, of course. No problems there, for the simple reason that he will be an Ajacied by that time, with no allegiance of future commitment to Heerenveen.

What would make it so strange if he played against Ajax on the 30th, is that he would cause himself (namely: the team he will officially be part of 28 hours later...) damage by scoring against Ajax. That will not be the case if he plays against Heerenveen in Feb.

K.

Bericht door **Kowalczyk** » vr dec 23, 2005 10:01 pm

By the way: this is a 100% done deal, people. On Ajax.nl it still says "we're almost there but haven't come to an agreement just yet", but the Abe Lenstra.com website (a Heerenveen fanzine) has quotes of chairman Riemer van der Velde and head-coach Gert-Jan Verbeek. They all confirm it: Huntelaar has been sold. Van der Velde claims that Ajax paid 9 million euros.

Confirmation by Ajax is a matter of time now. This is official.

K.

Venezuelan Ajacied · Bericht door **Venezuelan Ajacied** » vr dec 23, 2005 10:10 pm

Damn 9 million is a hell of a lot of cash, but i guess "The Hunter" let's the goals do the talking...Welcome Klaas.

PS: Strangely enough this might be the first time in quite some time that an Ajacied will be the leading scorer in the Eredivisie. :yes:

het zwarte gat · Bericht door **het zwarte gat** » vr dec 23, 2005 10:14 pm

Venezuelan Ajacied schreef: PS: Strangely enough this might be the first time in quite some time that an Ajacied will be the leading scorer in the Eredivisie. :yes:

Don't sell the skin of the bear, before he has been shot [by the hunter]. :D

LouisXIV & co · Bericht door **LouisXIV & co** » vr dec 23, 2005 10:43 pm

It is still not official. They're talking about the last details of the contract. Just a matter of time, but not ttoday anymore. Hopefully they work on Saturday too, because I really can't wait!

carcajou · Bericht door **carcajou** » vr dec 23, 2005 10:59 pm

Now I'm waiting for that time where he won't fit in the system,
and everybody will be on his back, and he'll be disappointing. It's happened before (Machlas).

Remember the proverb : 'Those who cannot learn from history are doomed to repeat it'.

I just hope he'll be the exception to the rule, because buying a patch player like in the middle (even if he's good) sounds pretty desperate.....

aveslacker · Bericht door **aveslacker** » za dec 24, 2005 12:06 am

SPL schreef:According to press today Vlaar is going from AZ reserves to Spurs reserves for Â£1.7m Â£ 2.5m Euros. I get the impression that AZ are determined to price Ajax out of this.

I think the best way to get revenge on those bastards is a 6-0 asswhuppin'. :yes: