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- AsgAarD_xxx
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- ZoefdeHaas
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Well IMO this already happened a couple of seasons ago when all of a sudden almost all prizes dropped dramatically - with the exception of a few "major" signings of so called Galacticos.Kowalczyk schreef:Well... One day we will crash into the 'limit' -- and the ones at the front of the procession will hit it first.
K.
We had major economical crisises in all major leagues (Italy in particular, but also in Spain and England), which stopped the silly tranfer fees of "normal" players.
I feel that this is pretty much still the case on the market, still with the exception of some really silly transfers that are being made by CHelsea and Real Madrid.
Chlesea won't crash into a wall with Roman behind them and the other clubs aren't too keen to follow Roman either so I for one am not that concerned with a crash coming in the near future.
Why do you build me up? BUTTERCUP!
- Over Pasanens Head
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I think that all depends on if our Mr Roman has been a naughty boy or not, and if the Russian authorities can pin something on him.Per schreef:
Chlesea won't crash into a wall with Roman behind them and the other clubs aren't too keen to follow Roman either
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It wraps you up in a great big hug
*OFF TOPIC*Over Pasanens Head schreef:I think that all depends on if our Mr Roman has been a naughty boy or not, and if the Russian authorities can pin something on him.Per schreef:
Chlesea won't crash into a wall with Roman behind them and the other clubs aren't too keen to follow Roman either
Roman has been a naughty boy, along with the rest of the oligarcs that got the contractsw for all the oil in former Soviet.
The difference is, Roman is not interested in politics in Russia. Mr Chodorovski broke the silent deal with Putin when he engaged in politics and he got the stick. I don't think any of the other oligarcs will follow.
Story has it that when Putin came into power he met with all the oligarcs and more or less made a deal - I won't pry into how you got your contracts and you won't bother me and my politics.
Why do you build me up? BUTTERCUP!
- AsgAarD_xxx
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- Kowalczyk
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Great man. One of those typical 'old skool' football coaches and genuine club people in the category of - for example - Heerenveen's Foppe de Haan and our own Bobby Haarms. These people are slowly becoming an endagered species. Let's love 'em while they're still here. People like this are the soul of the game.
Hurrah for Monsieur Roux!
K.
Hurrah for Monsieur Roux!
K.
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- ZoefdeHaas
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SAF means that because of the fans demand for quick success, trainers aren't given much time anymore to build a team, not to mention to stay employed at one and the same team for many many years despite the many downs that every team has throughout the years.
Should I worry that SAF made sense to me?
Should I worry that SAF made sense to me?
There is no life I know to compare with pure imagination. Living there, you'll be free if you truly wish to be.
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Not as such, but the point is: I know him (to be precise: a good friend of mine knows him). He's been around for a while and his only purpose on this forum is to needle Ajax fans with remarks about 'playing second fiddle' and 'unrealistically high expectations'. He always does that, and it's a bit boring. That why I won't type more than - say - ten words (and only if he asks me a direct question).Eric schreef:SAF means that because of the fans demand for quick success, trainers aren't given much time anymore to build a team, not to mention to stay employed at one and the same team for many many years despite the many downs that every team has throughout the years.
Should I worry that SAF made sense to me?
K.
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He's been a bit more contemplative and respectful lately. I think he's worried about the Glazer revolution, and all those remarks coming back to haunt him. :yes:Kowalczyk schreef: He's been around for a while and his only purpose on this forum is to needle Ajax fans with remarks about 'playing second fiddle' and 'unrealistically high expectations'. He always does that, and it's a bit boring.
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- Lid geworden op: zo feb 20, 2005 8:36 pm
K,
I think you have a good grasp of my original plot, however I am not as shallow as you may think despite my team of choice.
I do feel that good managers have very limited time nowadays and very little latitude for error.
I will watch Koeman's next appointment with interest and particularly how successful he may yet prove to be.
Moyes was written off at the end of last season by Everton who were questionning his judgement and ability but now hey presto hes the manager of the season.
I think you have a good grasp of my original plot, however I am not as shallow as you may think despite my team of choice.
I do feel that good managers have very limited time nowadays and very little latitude for error.
I will watch Koeman's next appointment with interest and particularly how successful he may yet prove to be.
Moyes was written off at the end of last season by Everton who were questionning his judgement and ability but now hey presto hes the manager of the season.
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That is true. Of course. No disagreement there.Sir Alex Ferguson schreef:I do feel that good managers have very limited time nowadays and very little latitude for error.
Me too. My bet is that he will fail everywhere and never be a really good coach. He's had two clubs now (Vitesse and Ajax) and at both clubs his signings have been disastrous for at least 75%. Also, he is a very poor 'man-manager', he doesn't talk to his players and - most importantly - he does not have a tactical plan or a philosophy for the club that he genuinely believes in. He always adjusts to the opposition. He can survive for a while that way (if he's lucky he can survive for a very long time, actually), but he'll never build something truly great, simple because it doesn't even seem to be his ambition.I will watch Koeman's next appointment with interest and particularly how successful he may yet prove to be.
We'll see what happens. Perhaps I'm wrong. I am not saying that he will never win anything. He won the Dutch league with Ajax; he might win the Portugese league with Benfica. Yet, I think he'll never seriously improve a team or an individual player.
I am not the type of supporter that always expects glory, and I am definitely not the type of supporter that always blames the manager. I've been following Ajax since 1985. I've seen many different teams wearing the Ajax jersey: a few were brilliant, many were good, many were ordinary and a few were shit. In those twenty years there were only three coaches (managers) who, in my opinion, were seriously to blame for fucking it all up and leaving an enormous pile of stinking crap behind (making it one hell of a job for his successor to clean up the mess): Kurt Linder (late 1980s), Jan Wouters (1999-2000) and Ronald Koeman (2002-2005). All other coaches I've seen were alright, even though some of them were eventually fired.
K.
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