Players Leaving Ajax

[rjf1]

...By 2018 most of our current squad will have gone.So much for this great youth policy we are never going to see the best out of any of them.In most cases we will get to see them for 2 years .

As I have stated on more than one occasion in the past - since using the team as a showcase for marketing young talent is the stated business plan of our board - this should come as no surprise. The entire purpose of Ajax FC, as far as our board is concerned, is to make money for the shareholders. All else is secondary.

In their view, we are like a shoe factory, not a football team. They see the whole setup like an assembly line - raw materials come in, get refined, and the finished product is shipped off to the most lucrative markets possible.

[Orange14]

In their view, we are like a shoe factory, not a football team. They see the whole setup like an assembly line - raw materials come in, get refined, and the finished product is shipped off to the most lucrative markets possible.

Outside of about 10 teams in Europe, every club is a selling club. Look at EPL teams that get about €90M a year in television fees. Other than Arsenal, ManCity, ManU, Chelsea and Liverpool they all routinely lose players. Dortmund who by all measures are hugely successful lose players. Juventus are on the verge of losing Pogba (a Raiola client BTW). Other than PSG, all the French teams regularly lose their star players and the Italian league is in tatters. This is life in modern football and there is no changing it because it is illegal under EU work laws to institute some type of salary control. These young players have stars in their eyes but how many times is that goal realized?

Ajax are one of the more successful development programs in all of Europe when one counts the number of academy prospects playing first team football. That being said look at the number of them over the last 15 years who have reached the very top level (van der Vaart and Sneijder for example); it's not that many. When you are 19 years old you think the world is your Oyster but when you are 30 and you see a football career that didn't realize it's potential things are quite different.

I'll be blunt and say that Bazoer will never make the starting 11 at Barca. His handling speed is just not quick enough and that's something that is very difficult to change. I don't think he will be as good as Ivan Rakitic the player he most closely resembles and Rakitic toiled away at Sevilla before moving onto Barca.

Raiola has but one job, to maximize the value of the players he represents. We might not like that because we see players leave Ajax very early in their careers (hey, where is Ouasim Bouy playing these days??? PEC Zwolle, that's where. Now maybe he wouldn't have made the starting 11 at Ajax, we won't know. We do know he probably will never start for Juventus). Do think Juve supporters are happy that Pogba might leave after this season?

EDIT: I should add that the club is financially strong and still has a good youth program. It's also instructive to look at our bitter rivals in Rotterdam who have probably lost more players at an earlier stage that Ajax have.

[SPL]

Meant to say a good post above by Orange 14. Would add that Liverpool are a selling club having sold Suarez and Sterling to bigger clubs.

I would like to see Ajax pay more money in contracts . The likes of Klaassen and Cillessen will be on 1m euros but surely we could pay these 2 nearer 2m pa. to encourage them to stay a bit longer .The youngsters I mentioned above could all be put on long contracts to 2020 paying them 1m euros pa with the prospects of earning up to 2m pa which may encourage some to stay longer.Thus we have a better chance of winning the title and getting into the CL group stages which brings in a min 20m euros per season.Players like this on long term contracts and performing in the CL will fetch us higher transfers as well.

I can but dream.

[Orange14]

I agree with you about the salary cap being to small and it clearly does encourage players (driven by their agents!!) to leave early. We should be maximizing the value of our transfers and that's not being done right now.

[Manneken Pis]

In their view, we are like a shoe factory, not a football team. They see the whole setup like an assembly line - raw materials come in, get refined, and the finished product is shipped off to the most lucrative markets possible.

Surely that should be a clog factory not a shoe factory?!?

But point taken...

[SPL]

Galatasary now want v Rhijn on loan . Not sure whats going on but we should tell them to stick it.Sell him but not loan.

[SPL]

Rumours of bids Leicester City for Milik and Monaco for Riedewald. If true both will be turned down.

Milik may go in the summer if he has a good Euros but Riedewald will stay 2 or 3 more years and hope to join someone a bit better than a nondescript French club.

[Tom_]

Well that must be rubbish, no one would pay money for Milik. Except Ajax of course ;)

[Orange14]

Well that must be rubbish, no one would pay money for Milik. Except Ajax of course ;)

I'm not as harsh on his abilities as others are; I just don't think he is well suited to a single striker formation. He scores goals and plays quite well for the Polish NT when he is paired up front with Lewandowski. In a 4-4-2 or a formation with a shadow striker playing behind him he would do quite well. Unfortunately, Ajax do not play this way.

[SPL]

Milik is evidently valued at 13m euros by us. Well thats what I read!

Hopefully Boilesen will go this month but we wont get any money for him .In the summer Crystal Palace and Genoa wanted him but he wanted better.Well I dont think either of those clubs will want him now.

As for Duarte how on earth do we get rid of him, we still have 18 months of a contract to pay!!!

[Tom_]

Yeah, I know I am a bit unreasonable when it comes to Milik. Actually he has a pretty nice shot and does OK against the smaller eredivisie teams where he is allowed time on the ball, but against any sort of defensive pressure his ball control is not good enough. I think he has become a symbol (in my head) of the fact we have given up on European football, which is obviously not his fault...

[SPL]

Dost's agent says no chance of him coming to Ajax due to money.As for Lens no thank you,he would want loads of money and is no good.

[SPL]

Galatasary now buying Molde's RB so v Rhijn's transfer now seems dead.

[SPL]

Todays silly rumors Hamburg want Fischer Dijks and wait for it Cerny!! They have no money for winter transfers but may come in the summer .

Galatasary to offer 5m for Milik

As I say stupid rumors but they are good for a laugh.

[Dave the mac]

Still another couple of weeks left in the transfer window so will be interesting to see what happens.
Somewhat disappointing that Van Rhijn's move to Turkey was called off. Never have been a fan of his but in his role this season as a sub has done well. Experience and quality on the bench is important. That's why I think Ajax will not sell until summer unless a offer is too good to pass on. The club is financially in very good shape so no urgent need to sell.

Except... Boilesen and Duarte's names have been mentioned and had almost forgotten them, and with good reason. Both are deadwood. Boilesen in particular is a real knucklehead, scuttling his own own carer.

The rumors will intensify until the window closes. We'll see.

[SPL]

Milan want El Ghazi is todays silly one . Hopefully Boilesen Duarte and Sanogo will be the leavers this month. I read we want 400,000 euros for Boilesen ,whose contract runs to June. Surely no one will spend any money on him! Sanogo hopefully will go back to Arsenal if we can sign a proper striker this month .

[SPL]

Wolves want Boilesen ,guess English championship is the best he can hope for .

El Ghazi to Milan may not be a rumor .Lerby ,his agent quoted it as a rumor but El Ghazi says he has a new agent . Speculation its Raiola. If so he will be off by the summer.

[Orange14]

I don't think el Ghazi is a finished product yet. He's not fast enough to play the wing in a bigger league and his best position is likely striker. I know he fancies himself as the second coming of Christiano Ronaldo (the two of them correspond) but he has no where near the speed or quickness of the Portuguese star. He needs at least two more years at Ajax. Of course he can always grab the money ASAP and then see a promising career melt away as he plays for some second rate club in Italy or England. Klaassen seems to be the only player I've seen in recent years who really has a good grip on reality.

I would further add that the EPL is really dangerous to a player's career with all of the fixtures that pile up during the winter when other leagues either have a break or reduced schedule. Liverpool have about half their team on the injured list. Aguero who was a great striker in the Spanish league only seems healthy for about 1/2 the Man City games.

[SPL]

Terek Grozny from Russia want Duarte and it seems more than a rumor as he is going to their training camp in Malta to talk. Aissati plays for them and Luke Wilkshere recently joined them from Fword.

This lad needs a new club hope he gets fixed up.

[SPL]

Milan evidently want El Ghazi if they sell someone . Talk of Raiola as agent and somewhere between 10 and 13 m euros.

I dont rate the guy ,he scores against minor sides is not quick enough on the wing ,is not a team man,do you see him defending just seems to be interested in his own game. . He thinks he is the new Ronaldo. If he wants Italy then goodbye never to be heard of again like Kishna.

These 2 lads want the glory and where as Kishna came at 14 he was injured for nearly 3 years otherwise he would have left earlier. El Ghazi joined in 2013 from Sparta and sees Ajax as just somewhere to pass through .

Would say Raiola's other man Tete is an Ajax kid and looks like he wants to extend and stay another 2 years .

[Orange14]

Milan evidently want El Ghazi if they sell someone . Talk of Raiola as agent and somewhere between 10 and 13 m euros.
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I think we got more for Ryan Babel, correct? If this is money on the table, Ajax should take it.

[SPL]

We accepted 25m euros from Napoli for Bazoer but the player has said he is not interested. The price seems low but there are bonuses and resale clauses which would bring it up to 50m and the Dutch press say the bonuses are easy to obtain.

The other sites are very anti Overmars but such a price for a promising 19 year old in the Dutch league seems a good amount.All these fans do seem to have overlooked that he only started playing for our youth teams in August 2013 ,having walked out of PSV. Overmars is putting such kids on long term deals so we get more money. Eriksen went for only 13m .

I assume Ajax have agreed they will let any serious clubs talk to him and thus agreed an offer. Lucky for us Bazoer and his agent brother have sense and said no to Italian football. Clearly they want better and are happy to stay with us until a really top side comes in.

This does show Ajax are just a factory for youths and a selling club. As I said the other week by the summer of 2018 Tete Riedewald, El Ghazi, Bazoer will all be gone and indeed we will be lucky to keep them until 2018.

[Orange14]

This does show Ajax are just a factory for youths and a selling club. As I said the other week by the summer of 2018 Tete Riedewald, El Ghazi, Bazoer will all be gone and indeed we will be lucky to keep them until 2018.

Overmars needs to be given his walking papers as soon as possible. This is no way to run a football club. If this is to be the policy then they should put release clauses into the contracts and make that number as high as possible. this cannot possibly be good for the players who are looking for some sense of stability.

[SPL]

I am no fan of Overmars and think he should go and the news we are happy to sell a great talent in January sucks.

I am happy he puts kids on longer contracts and stick to the fact that 25 m for someone who only joined our youths in August 2013 is a fair deal when Depay ,scored 30 goals and joined the richest club in the world went for 27m.

We hear that by keeping the current crop for a few years will bring us back to the elite of Europe but saying you will sell your best talent in January just says they are all for sale.

PS Galatasary today said they did not buy v Rhijn because we wanted too much money ie 3.5 to 4m !

[zeux]

We hear that by keeping the current crop for a few years will bring us back to the elite of Europe but saying you will sell your best talent in January just says they are all for sale.

And selling them so fast, will lower the general quality of the team on an alarming scale. It's a domino-effect. The first team getting out of sync with the top level competition, creating an ever worse performance environment for kids to prove themselves in to earn good contracts. So there is the possibility that also the talent pool will dry up, as it becomes increasingly less attractive to profile yourself in the first team of Ajax.
Slip sliding away.