Players Leaving Ajax

[Orange14]

Cruijff is correct. I remember some games van der Hoorn played with the U-21 team and he made some very clumsy mistakes that cost the team some wins. Wasn't he fooled by Ballotelli a couple of years ago in a CL game against Milan where he conceded a stupid penalty? The thinking was that he would compete with Veltman for the starting position at a time when Veltman was behind Alderwiereld and did not get much playing time at all. Veltman quickly proved to be the superior player.

[Ayman]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/ ... ng-6744202 No way! Donny van der Beek is the new golden boy of Ajax! Surely Ajax won't let him go? It says he has 4 and a half years on his contract? Pray that he stays!

[SPL]

I would say complete rubbish. He could have left Ajax aged 16 in 2013 when we did not offer him a contract.Big clubs wanted him and he stayed ,signing in 2014 aged 17.He only extended his contract to 2020 a few weeks ago. He is not quite ready for our first team so what would Man U do with him.

PS Has this paper the wrong name if it were Bazoer I could understand.

[SPL]

Just to add the article about Donny to Man U says Manu also looking at some German kid for 40m euros! A few papers saying they want Anderlecht's 18 year old MF Youri Tielemans for 40m euros,he has been in their first team since 16.Not sure where an Ajax reserve fits into a story quoting 40m euro players.

A cheap story made up to fill the paper,mind every big rich team will have scouts at all our youth games watching for talent.

[SPL]

If after the winter break we are out of Europe and therefore only playing 1 game a week I wonder if we will see a few players leaving in January! We will try and get rid of Boilesen and Duarte but neither have played since last May!

Today de Boer has said Heits is a lot slower than he expected, what a dreadful mistake we are paying him 1m euros and he is not quick enough for our team.

V d Hoorn has said he wants out and V Rhijn wont want to stay to just to sit on the bench.Even Viergever says he is not happy being on the bench.

Finally Sanogo was due to play last night for the Jong but clearly is not fit.Get rid of him asap.

We do seem to have a problem with our back up defence. Tete and Riedewald are clearly good enough and Dijks better than Boilesen but it has left us with 5 spare players who are all older and not getting playing time.All will be on decent wages and we wont be able to sell them to any Dutch clubs.

Watching Jong Ajax I would say Owusu and Sanniez may be ok as backups but they are not yet as good as v d Hoorn or V Rhijn as cover. We have no LB cover with Savastano,the best LB youth not ready.

[rjf1]

...Today de Boer has said Heits is a lot slower than he expected, what a dreadful mistake we are paying him 1m euros and he is not quick enough for our team.

Since we all knew that he was well past it and would be a worthless signing, how could de Boer not know that. You really have to wonder...

V d Hoorn has said he wants out...

Another of de Boer's decisions I don't get. He isn't an all-star, granted, but he's decent enough and provides a needed presence when we are up against the long ball/physical teams. Can't see why he doesn't get more playing time.

[Orange14]

V d Hoorn has said he wants out...

Another of de Boer's decisions I don't get. He isn't an all-star, granted, but he's decent enough and provides a needed presence when we are up against the long ball/physical teams. Can't see why he doesn't get more playing time.

So you want to play him over Veltman? van der Hoorn has all the physical tools and none of the mental ones to be a decent defender. He's right footed so he's not going to be able to slot in on the left side.

[SPL]

Heits has played very little for the last 2 years .We did need an experienced CD who can cover at DM but someone who was not over the hill,too slow and hardly played for 2 years.When V D Hoorn goes we will still need such a player.

We also still need a 2nd striker ,someone who has actually got a record of having put the ball in the net at senior level and is fit most of the time.Sanogo has only ever scored in French 2nd div .

I see Zivkovic scored today,maybe we should just get him back in January .

[SPL]

Downside of being the most famous club in the world for producing kids and have our team full of them is the rumours are now coming in fast.

Wolfsburg wanted to know how much Bazoer would cost but his brother and agent said he had not heard from them. He said his brother had earlier in the year signed to 2020 and intended to stay another 2 or 3 years unless something really exceptional happened and Wolfsburg is not that .

Mind if Barca came in that may be different.

After last Thursday goal against piss poor Celtic all the big boys want Cerny.He has just signed to 2020 and today quoted Ajax is the best club to be for a young lad like him .

Todays Daily Mail story has Man U and Arsenal about to compete for Nouri.!! Man U also want v d Beek. These 2 kids of course did not get contracts until 2014 when aged 17,thus last year these clubs could have signed them for nothing but both turned down big clubs.They too have just signed to 2020.

The big clubs may have money but these 3 kids will not be going anywhere soon.Nouri and v d Beek have grown up only ever wanting to play for Ajax.


Real transfer news we will see V Rhijn and v d Hoorn looking to leave next month and Viergever also is not happy .

[SPL]

FDB wont let v d Hoorn or Viergever go in January unless a big offer ,which wont happen. vd Hoorn is not happy as he wont get much playing time and I doubt he will want to play for Jong Ajax. Unless we get injuries I dont see either of these 2 or v Rhijn and Heits getting any minutes in the 2nd half of the season.

[SPL]

Napoli have evidently bid 20m euros for Klaassen but we have turned it down.Story says more to follow,I would imagine the player has said he doesn't want to go.He has recently extended his contract saying he wont go before 2017 ,even his Dad has been quoted that he is not ready to leave Ajax or Holland yet.Also he has said he would not be very interested in going to Italy.

If he is worth 20m I would say Bazoer would be worth a min 30m already.

[SPL]

Dejan Meleg has had his contracted terminated by consent.It ran to 2016 . He was rated when he first came here ,went to Cambuur on loan last year and returned early as he made no impression.This season he has only played the odd friendly with Jong Ajax so this is best for both sides.

Ajax have 2 other players in similar situations. Boilesen ,contract runs to 2016,surely no one will pay money for him next month so we should cancel his contract.

Duarte is a problem as his contract runs to 2017.He has not played any Jong games and no one is going to pay money for him and no other Dutch club will afford the wages we pay.We should loan him out ,pay his wages in full and hope he impresses enough for someone to pick him up next summer.We are not going to get any transfer fee but just get him off our payroll for next season is all we can hope for.

Heitinga,also is not playing but will just stay to the summer when I assume he will leave on a free.

[SPL]

Besiktas fancy Cillessen and Turkish press suggest they would offer 15m euros but we want 25m !! Not going to happen but I still think he could leave in the summer .

[SPL]

Ajax have agreed a transfer of V Rhijn to Galatasary of only 2m euros plus further bonuses and resale of 1.5 m euros.

I dont expect more than 5m for a bench warmer but he has been a regular for the previous 3 seasons and an International,in addition his contract runs to 2018 . 3 or 4 m up front rising to max 5 would have been more realistic.

Anyway good luck to him

[Orange14]

I really don't understand why we always get far less for players than they are really worth. Vertonghen, Eriksen, and Alderwiereld were sold for prices that were too low.

[SPL]

Those 3 you mentioned were all in their last year of contract hence the lower fees.Eriksen and Vertonghen fetched about 12 m euros each and should have been 20m each ,Toby fetched about 6m should have been about 12m. The one good thing about Overmars is that he is putting players on much longer contracts so we should avoid selling players on the cheap with 1 year left on their contract

We should still have hoped for 5m for v Rhijn.

Mind we turned down 20m for Klaassen and want 25 m for Cillessen,thats hugh sums for players who are in a poor Dutch league

[Amol]

A smarter thing would have been to have Van Rhijn and Tete split time the first half of the season and then sell Van Rhijn in the winter. But somehow, simple strategy doesn't seem to be a strength of Overmars/FDB.

They'll do the same with Klassen when FDB will replace him with Van Beek/Nouri and then we'll sell him for 7 million.

[SPL]

Tete is simply a better defender than V Rhijn and should be picked ahead of him every time. Had we shared them with games we may have got a maximum 5m euros for V Rhijn which is not a lot more when you are sitting on 100m.

I read today Inter Milan want Bruma and his price is between 8 and 10m euros.de Vrij and Martins Indi only went for about 8 m each so I guess 2 to 3m for our reserve RB is not too bad.

[Tom_]

Agree with SPL, why do we even care how much players get sold for? He's off, that's all I need to know ;)

[Amol]

I'm not disagreeing with the fact that Tete is a better defender than Van Rhijn. But remember how excited we all were when Van Rhijn broke through and replaced Van Der Wiel.

We essentially are 'using' our own youth players to drive down the value of established players. In my opinion, there is absolutely no harm in collecting an extra 2 million in this day and age. We were so close to being in real financial trouble only 5 years ago.

I also understand your point about us having 100 million in the bank right now and not using it correctly.

But...the transfer is water under the bridge now. Lets hope Tete stays for a really long time and improves his offensive capabilities.

[Ayman]

Hopefully Frank will end up at Swansea F.C so he can take both Fischer and Schone with him, we don't need them now that Cerny has broken through the first team.

[Ayman]

Also El Ghazi is strongly linked with premiership table toppers Leicester city. I say cash in on him, and use the funds to sign Moses Daddy-Simon from Gent, we initially released him to give Lesley De Sa a chance. Look how that turned out!

[SPL]

Started the season well but after illness and injury has done nothing for the last 2 months.Our stupid press are making up loads of rumours just to fill the papers. Like FDB dont see El Ghazi going to EPl this month.

[SPL]

Article today with Tete. His contract runs to 2018 but he says he is happy here but leaves the contract extension to RAIOLA,his agent. He says if a big club came along a player would have to leave rather than stay .

With Raiola as agent I see no contract extension and Tete leaving in 2017. I would rather get rid of Raiola's players and if Tete does not extend this season I would consider selling him in the summer.Only other Raiola men Becker ,on loan and wont come back, plus Acolatse Jong winger not very good and will go this summer.

[SPL]

Reading fans on Ajax Showtime my thoughts on Tete seem to agree with the majority. Tete Bazoer and Riedewald have been in the side for half a season,Danny Blind has done no favours by making them full Dutch Ints ,well before their time, so now they have big egos and think they have made it . All 3 now talking of when they might go. They are not ready to be Ints but when you are 19 playing for Ajax and Holland everyone thinks you have made it.

I know I am anti Raiola and he is very anti Ajax but Bazoer has his brother for an agent and a couple of months ago was staying until 2018 but now a full Int he too thinks he has made it and is talking of Barcelona.The 3 of them are talents in a poor Dutch league and none of them looked special in the Europa Cup or when Blind stupidly played them in the Oranje seniors.

By 2018 most of our current squad will have gone.So much for this great youth policy we are never going to see the best out of any of them.In most cases we will get to see them for 2 years .