Players Leaving Ajax

[Philippe]

I never shared the doubts some had about Marteen. I thought that some of the troubles we had under Marco van Basten were because he was not keeper number one. He is a great goal keeper, the best we had since van der Sar. Hope he will eventually change his mind and stay with Ajax.

[Orange14]

I never shared the doubts some had about Marteen. I thought that some of the troubles we had under Marco van Basten were because he was not keeper number one. He is a great goal keeper, the best we had since van der Sar. Hope he will eventually change his mind and stay with Ajax.

If his stated goal is to play CL football on a continuing basis there are only a limited number of teams out there. Some of them have established keepers and would not be interested in signing him. Here are the major clubs that play CL football every year: Madrid, Barca, Chelsea, ManU, Arsenal, Milan, Iternazionale, Bayern, and I'll add Juventus despite the turmoil of the past five years because of the scandal. I've left off Liverpool because we don't know who will own the club tomorrow! Of these teams, ManU and Arsenal need new keepers. It's also possible that the three Italian clubs will be looking as well since each of their #1s are over 30 and have or are suffering from injury problems. So it boils down to five teams and then you also need to take into account keepers from clubs who are also going to compete with St. Maarten for a place on one of those five teams. It's a tough call and I hope that Maarten will be rewarded since he is one of the top five keepers in the world right now. Problem is that keepers seldom command high transfer fees (Buffon excepted).

[SPL]

He will have 1 year left on his contract so I quess max 15m euros. I do not think Arsenal will pay that sort of money for a goalie.

[gordonvandekamp]

He will have 1 year left on his contract so I quess max 15m euros. I do not think Arsenal will pay that sort of money for a goalie.

I think that's going to be the big issue when we try and sell him. From what I've read Man U has been looking at other keepers as well. I don't see them or many other teams of those mentioned paying over about 7m euros for a keeper and see them paying less for younger, less experienced keepers.

The summer will be interesting as I see we either sell him for less than he may be worth to a team he wants to go to, sell him for more to a team he doesn't, or he stays another year and leaves for free.

[Orange14]

Isn't it customary for the player to get part of the transfer fee? If so, total compensation might be greater if there is a formal transfer rather than moving free on a Bosman.

[Purple Cow's Ghost]

Anders Lindegaard is Manchester United's number 1 target for next summer, (or possibly even this winter, after van der Sar's catastrophic blunder yesterday), so Steks is mostly likely going to Arsenal, I reckon.

[SPL]

Arsenal wont buy any of our players as they wont pay more than £10m for any of them and certainly wont pay anywhere near that for a goalie.

Being a french speaking team I quess the only 2 Ajax players who would fit in there are Toby and Jan ,as being Belgium they would have had to learn French at school !!!

Man City want Suarez in the winter break and have evidently talked to his agent . Mind he is only second choice and that does not include Rooney could go there . In addition if Rooney does leave Man U I would not be surprised if they go for Suarez .

[SPL]

Rumours today that Man U want deJong and Vd Wiel and have at least 25m euros to spend on them .
He is supposed to have said deJong can replace Scholes . One has to laugh at such rubbish reports .

[SPL]

I am sure you think that last post on today's game was over the top rubbish , and yes it may have been but just consider the players whose contracts run out next summer. 4or 5 are back in the Jong squad but are still basically first teamers. I include Jozefzoon as a first team squad player but not Bonevacia so that leave a max 29

Graafland, Atouba, Oleguer, Ooijer, Urby, Tainio,Sno , Donald , Suk, Bodul and Mido are the 11 whose contracts run out. Tainio and Mido are having most of their wages this season paid for by their English clubs and no way are we going to start paying 1or 2m wages to either just to be subs next season .Oleguer is paid about 2m at present and is a sub and when fit Atouba ,who gets about 1.5m is never going to get another contract either.We cannot afford contracts like that for subs.

I wont speculate but as I expect Jol to go I do not see any of these staying .I will speculate that Steks, Van der Wiel , Suarez will go and also Vertonghen and even El H if we are not in the CL and we are left with about 13 players , half of whom are midfielders who are currently not playing well enough.

the 13 are Verhoeven , Vermeer,

Alderweireld, Blind and Anita,

Lodeiro, de Jong , Eriksen, Lindgren, de Zeeuw, Enoh

up front Jozefzoon , whose contract also runs out next summer and Sulejmani and can we keep him if he never going to perform !!!

If by some miracle we finish in the top 2and get into the CL then 1or 2of these may stay but lets see

[Orange14]

Affellay is off to Barca as we all knew would happen. Surprising was that the transfer fee is in the neighborhood of only €3-4 M. This is likely to surprise a number of our players who have visions of a big transfer payday. I certainly fancy Affellay much more than Urby and wonder if we get even a single € when we shop him around in January. Financial reality is finally coming to football.

[afcajax73]

Affellay is off to Barca as we all knew would happen. Surprising was that the transfer fee is in the neighborhood of only €3-4 M. This is likely to surprise a number of our players who have visions of a big transfer payday. I certainly fancy Affellay much more than Urby and wonder if we get even a single € when we shop him around in January. Financial reality is finally coming to football.

It was a case of accept 4million now or nothing in jan though. Best deal for both teams. barca get him for next to nothing and face no competition and psv get more than nothing..

[SPL]

I think you meant Psv would get nothing in June as his contract runs out then . They have done well in getting 3or4 m .

We wont get 1 million for Urby after all I do not think we got more than that for Nigel de Jong and Hedweges Maduro when they left with 6 months left on their contracts.

[Orange14]

I agree that we will be lucky to get anything at all for Urby. Clubs are under increasing pressure to offer multi-year contracts to players of either unproven value or those whose best days may be behind them. It's a tough call for management.

[afcajax73]

I think you meant Psv would get nothing in June as his contract runs out then . They have done well in getting 3or4 m .

We wont get 1 million for Urby after all I do not think we got more than that for Nigel de Jong and Hedweges Maduro when they left with 6 months left on their contracts.

Isnt that what i said?!!

i think really we should keep him, but if he goes, your right... it will be for nothing..

[SPL]

you said Jan and not June.

[SPL]

Anderlecht want Daley Blind ,sadly does not look as if Jol will give him a game so he could leave us and Anderlecht will probably sell him for a nice profit in 2or 3years .

I hope he will go out on loan to the end of the season and see what happens with Jol in the summer .
If Jol stays and still does not rate him then Daley can leave.

[SPL]

Blind has now said he sees no future at Ajax under Jol and I have just read a comment that Eriksen has told a Danish website he is not happy here.Add to that Toby must be considering his future under Jol and also Bonevacia has not signed an extension as he is 5th choice defensive midfielder and even Jozefzoon ,now an U21 Int, has not signed either Jol's continuation at this club is heading for disaster.

We are lumbered with his old has been's Ooijer, Tainio, Mido, Atouba and the best talent are unhappy and could leave.

Jol should be sacked now and paid off before he does more damage . Trouble is short of a PSV win on Saturday it probably wont happen.

[afcajax73]

you said Jan and not June.

ah yes sorry... i stand corrected... said the man in the orthopedics shoes..

[Flipster81]

I think with the way Jan-Arie van der Heijden is playing at Willem II he is a ready made replacement for Vertonghen, Daley needs a shot imo either in midfield or at the back, along with Roly.

If the exodus we all fear becomes reality, it's just what we do... Build, Sell, Replace it's the Ajax way.

Only a couple of the players leaving will be really missed... Steeks, Jan and Luis (When he's not trying out for the next werewolf movie that is).

We need to take a leaf out of someone like Benficas recruitment policies, the players they have un-earthed the last couple of seasons...

[SPL]

Groningen do not want to loan Daley Blind but buy him . The clowns in charge of this club are thinking
of selling but with a buy back clause. So like Lindgren we let him go for next to nothing then 2 years later we pay 2m euros to get him back except I think Daley will be a better player than Lindgren and I
expect Ajax to pay about 3m euros in 2012 to buy Daley back.

The people running this club are clowns .

[Cedric]

Groningen do not want to loan Daley Blind but buy him . The clowns in charge of this club are thinking
of selling but with a buy back clause. So like Lindgren we let him go for next to nothing then 2 years later we pay 2m euros to get him back except I think Daley will be a better player than Lindgren and I
expect Ajax to pay about 3m euros in 2012 to buy Daley back.

The people running this club are clowns .

That's a lot of approximations/suppositions for such an abrupt conclusion.

[SPL]

Yes Cedric I do go a bit over the top at times.

One thing about Daley is what is his best position. I believe he played full back at Groningen and am I correct in thinking Jol belives him to be a midfielder?. He did play midfield for Dutch U 21's the other week and has played there in 1or 2 Jong games but most Jong games he is centre back!

Given he is still 20 and contract runs to 2013 I hope they just let him out on loan after the winter break and even loan him out next season if necessary, after all Van der Heijden is spending his 2nd season on loan at Willem , (he is 2 years older than Daley and has a contract to 2013 when he will be 25.)

[SPL]

above posts by me on Daley may be over the top but today I read that Ajax and Groningen have agreed the transfer of Daley but he is delaying for a week to think it over. I will repeat the people running this club are clowns and by the summer of 2012 we will probably end up buying him back for 2m .

After all we are now looking at buying Boerrigter, a winger at RKC ,and wasn't Jol impressed by Goossens.Nathaniel Will also could replace V d Wiel when he goes but of course Grygera is coming back for that position .Jol's mate Rioala has decided on that .

Yes I am being cynical I am fed up with Jol and the way this club is going down hill with him .We need a change asap .

[Orange14]

above posts by me on Daley may be over the top but today I read that Ajax and Groningen have agreed the transfer of Daley but he is delaying for a week to think it over. I will repeat the people running this club are clowns and by the summer of 2012 we will probably end up buying him back for 2m .

After all we are now looking at buying Boerrigter, a winger at RKC ,and wasn't Jol impressed by Goossens.Nathaniel Will also could replace V d Wiel when he goes but of course Grygera is coming back for that position .Jol's mate Rioala has decided on that .

Yes I am being cynical I am fed up with Jol and the way this club is going down hill with him .We need a change asap .

How can Danny Blind remain with the club as this stuff goes on? Is Boerrigter better than any of the wingers we currently have on the roster (and we have quite a few)? What I would like to see is Daley start at left fullback and move Anita up to the holding midfielder. I think Anita can do a much better job than Enoh is doing right now as he has much better ball skills and field awareness. I would also put Urby in the midfield and forget about this movement back and forth between wing and fullback.

[SPL]

Ignore my post of earlier , Daley wont be leaving now but may still go out on loan .He and his dad will probably be happier with the breaking news .