08 Aug 2010: FC Groningen - Ajax

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Re: 08 Aug 2010: FC Groningen - Ajax

Bericht door ajaxcolombia » zo aug 08, 2010 2:48 pm

MUAAH what a goal El Hamdaoui hup El hamdaoui
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Re: 08 Aug 2010: FC Groningen - Ajax

Bericht door Orange14 » zo aug 08, 2010 2:49 pm

Now we are cooking with oil!!! 2-0 I like this team a lot. :blub.gif:
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Re: 08 Aug 2010: FC Groningen - Ajax

Bericht door Ajaxfanuk » zo aug 08, 2010 2:49 pm

And again!, I like this lad!
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Re: 08 Aug 2010: FC Groningen - Ajax

Bericht door ajaxusa » zo aug 08, 2010 2:49 pm

Ajax should have saved money and just paid for the outside of his right foot.
Mark it 8, Dude.

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Re: 08 Aug 2010: FC Groningen - Ajax

Bericht door Tom_ » zo aug 08, 2010 2:50 pm

Pretty much two good strikes separating us from 0-0...

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Re: 08 Aug 2010: FC Groningen - Ajax

Bericht door ajaxcolombia » zo aug 08, 2010 2:54 pm

Ok guys please lets not get freaking lazy here.
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Re: 08 Aug 2010: FC Groningen - Ajax

Bericht door ajaxcolombia » zo aug 08, 2010 2:58 pm

I have to sa this: Van der Wiel is horribly overrated. Really if anyone wnats to pay 20 million for him, we should sell right away.
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Re: 08 Aug 2010: FC Groningen - Ajax

Bericht door ajaxusa » zo aug 08, 2010 3:04 pm

wow, out cold for 15 seconds and then pops right up. just like in the movies...
Mark it 8, Dude.

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Re: 08 Aug 2010: FC Groningen - Ajax

Bericht door Tom_ » zo aug 08, 2010 3:08 pm

ajaxusa schreef:wow, out cold for 15 seconds and then pops right up. just like in the movies...
Ha, he was just having a little rest

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Re: 08 Aug 2010: FC Groningen - Ajax

Bericht door ajaxusa » zo aug 08, 2010 3:14 pm

Simply no way you win any trophies with that defense...
Mark it 8, Dude.

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Re: 08 Aug 2010: FC Groningen - Ajax

Bericht door Orange14 » zo aug 08, 2010 3:14 pm

I give up! :confused.gif: This is a match that was in the bag and look what happens. Crap play on defense yet again. 3 points down the drain.
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Re: 08 Aug 2010: FC Groningen - Ajax

Bericht door ajaxcolombia » zo aug 08, 2010 3:20 pm

I'm done with ajax. I tried to take the team back again after the success of the netherlands in the world cup but really this team is such a let done. It will never be the team I fell in love with when Morten Olsen was the manager. I'm gone for good.
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Re: 08 Aug 2010: FC Groningen - Ajax

Bericht door Bertrand » zo aug 08, 2010 3:24 pm

I can't belive I'm following the score on Teletekst. 1996 called, they want their style back :harm.gif:

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Re: 08 Aug 2010: FC Groningen - Ajax

Bericht door Orange14 » zo aug 08, 2010 3:24 pm

Absolutely terrible defensive play by both fullbacks. Anita gets caught upfield from a player he should be marking ending up in the first goal. Van der Wiel, what can be said; constantly putting us at danger and not even doing much offensively. Another goal mouth scramble leading to goal #2. Damn, these should be locked down when you go up 2-0. Sure it always was going to be a tricky match but not one that we should have dropped points on the way it turned out.
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Re: 08 Aug 2010: FC Groningen - Ajax

Bericht door Bertrand » zo aug 08, 2010 3:25 pm

Coincidentally, seeing it's a draw after managing to fuck up a 2-0 lead, I gave 1995 a call, I want my team back.

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Re: 08 Aug 2010: FC Groningen - Ajax

Bericht door Ajaxfanuk » zo aug 08, 2010 3:29 pm

Different Season, same shit..
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Re: 08 Aug 2010: FC Groningen - Ajax

Bericht door Venezuelan Ajacied » zo aug 08, 2010 3:34 pm

Cant say its a surprise, Ajax just cant defend under pressure, plain and simple, the fact that we had no one to help from the bench hurt too, i just think the team got tired after 60 minutes and thats when groningen put down the pedal...you could see that the team was not fit enough. Remember that we have played a lot of matches in the recent days with out a very good pre season. It hurts to have wasted a two goal lead but in the end a draw at the Euroborg aint that bad.

El hamdoui and Suarez are going to fucking rock the eredivisie.
BRING IT ON !!!!...

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Re: 08 Aug 2010: FC Groningen - Ajax

Bericht door Kowalczyk » zo aug 08, 2010 3:34 pm

ajaxcolombia schreef:I'm done with ajax. I tried to take the team back again after the success of the netherlands in the world cup but really this team is such a let done. It will never be the team I fell in love with when Morten Olsen was the manager. I'm gone for good.
Bye bye then. Have a nice life.

This was so unnecessary. In spite of what anybody else might say, I thought Ajax played quite well in the first half hour: they knocked the ball around quite well, they were calm and focused. At half time I thought: just carry on like this and wait for the chances. And there they were: bang, 0-1 and 0-2. Game over. Stay awake, stay focused and keep playing. No problem at all. You're on your way to a near-perfect, very solid away win.

But almost immediately after the second goal Ajax fell asleep. They were asking for trouble - and they got it. Very, very daft and totally unnecessary.

Oh, this is stupid.

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Re: 08 Aug 2010: FC Groningen - Ajax

Bericht door Ajaxfanuk » zo aug 08, 2010 3:39 pm

We're always gonna score goals, Suarez and El Hamdaoui are going to be immense but we need to sort out the defense, we cant afford to be dropping points wastefully, we werent out played today, i could understand that, but we were just tired and poor. We can do better though!
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Re: 08 Aug 2010: FC Groningen - Ajax

Bericht door Monkey Tonk » zo aug 08, 2010 3:46 pm

Definition of a fool is to keep repeating the same thing, and expect a different result. You would think Ajax learned something from their late collapse in Greece. Nope. Not a thing. Gave up two late goals, and the win, all over again. If recent history is any indication, two points, lost today in the most nonchalant of ways, could easily make the difference at the end of the line. But again, Ajax doesn't seem to have learned that lesson. We'll finish great in 2011f, and fall just short. Virtually guaranteed with 33 games to go.

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Re: 08 Aug 2010: FC Groningen - Ajax

Bericht door Orange14 » zo aug 08, 2010 3:49 pm

90% of defense is mental. That's the category we are lacking. As Ko noted, we tend to zone out. Maybe it's because we traditionally have so much possession that we don't spend much time playing under pressure during matches. Same think happened against PAOK but all we needed was a high scoring draw to go through. Groningen will be a tough match on their home grounds for the other teams but this is still a bitter result.
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Re: 08 Aug 2010: FC Groningen - Ajax

Bericht door Julius » zo aug 08, 2010 5:14 pm

Monkey Tonk schreef:Definition of a fool is to keep repeating the same thing, and expect a different result. You would think Ajax learned something from their late collapse in Greece. Nope. Not a thing. Gave up two late goals, and the win, all over again. If recent history is any indication, two points, lost today in the most nonchalant of ways, could easily make the difference at the end of the line. But again, Ajax doesn't seem to have learned that lesson. We'll finish great in 2011f, and fall just short. Virtually guaranteed with 33 games to go.
I was going to write the same.
Strange isnt it? Three games in a row... same thing. Play well first half, gain the lead and fall asleep after that.

Its more strange that the head coach's name is Jol. I always thought he has the ability to make his team be tough and not to give away anything. Its clear now that the boys dont have it... he better inject this to them ASAP.
I always think is very important to win the first games, it gives momentum and room for improvement. In fact the first games were those that cost the title last year. And the excuses... Jol just came in, he didnt know the team etc. What can we say now?

three games in a row god damn it!!

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Re: 08 Aug 2010: FC Groningen - Ajax

Bericht door SPL » zo aug 08, 2010 7:05 pm

Had to go out today but watched the first half and thought a draw would be ok but came home to see we gave away a 2-0 lead for the second game in arow. Glad the new boy started well and yes with Suarez we will scores loads of goals but we need an experienced defender.

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Re: 08 Aug 2010: FC Groningen - Ajax

Bericht door SE6Ajacied » zo aug 08, 2010 7:22 pm

SPL schreef:Had to go out today but watched the first half and thought a draw would be ok but came home to see we gave away a 2-0 lead for the second game in arow. Glad the new boy started well and yes with Suarez we will scores loads of goals but we need an experienced defender.
Yeah, I went out too and missed the second half though I did hear it was 2-1 to us. Just watched the whole second half I'd recorded. It's not the result so much that hurts (I could have settled for a draw in the circumstances) but the way we conceded, especially the second one - what a bloody mess!

We looked very very shaky in defense today I thought, even with Vertongen out Oleguer should have been an adequate replacement - he's hardly a novice!
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Re: 08 Aug 2010: FC Groningen - Ajax

Bericht door Amol » zo aug 08, 2010 9:22 pm

Missed the first half but saw the second. I think we're missing Enoh in the mid field. The defenders were getting caught in possession time and time again with no one to protect them.

Also in the past 3 games I've noticed a strange phenomenon. Player in midfield/defense gets caught in defense, keeps passing the ball back until it is with Steks. Steks just kicks it really long
1. into the side line OR
2. other team's keeper OR
3. other team's player.
This happens at least 5/6 times a half and doesn't help us in any way.

All in all - I'll take a draw at the Euroborg. But, today we actually had a win and we kind of gave it away. Sucks.

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