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Bericht door ZoefdeHaas » vr jul 13, 2007 4:14 pm

It's not like any other team signed any quality players either.

Apparently theres interest from Ajax regarding Groningen's Suarez (striker).
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Bericht door bluedaddy19 » vr jul 13, 2007 4:37 pm

from what i understand, babel's replacement will be nilsson, with suarez as second choice

both items have been mentioned on v-bal.nl this week

EDIT: perhaps suarez is now the first choice - van geel says he wants to come, but groningen are putting up the stop sign

philippe schreef:sorry but I do not shares your views about Stekelenburg : I think he is an excellent goal-kepper

absolutely... he was the best keeper in the eredivisie last season, and i don't understand the hatred at all
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Bericht door orange goblin » vr jul 13, 2007 5:43 pm

in your opinion is suarez more a central striker or a winger?
as far as I know nilsson is a striker that can play on the left, but suarez?
the Uruguayan is a nice player, anyway..I remember some highlights
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Bericht door cdnajaxfan » vr jul 13, 2007 5:45 pm

We need at least 2 wingers, a striker, and a REAL replacement lined up for Sneijder (who I don't want to leave but I am realistic, especially when Real paid 30 million for that Pepe guy, they could have Wesley for half that price, boy they know how to piss away money!).

I think we got a very good sum for Babal, anyone know What we got from Piss-v for Perez? We need to stock up as the Cockroaches my be broke but they have reinforced to make a run at us this season. Get spending Martin! :ajaxscarf.gif:

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Bericht door dws » vr jul 13, 2007 5:58 pm

bluedaddy19 schreef:from what i understand, babel's replacement will be nilsson, with suarez as second choice

both items have been mentioned on v-bal.nl this week

EDIT: perhaps suarez is now the first choice - van geel says he wants to come, but groningen are putting up the stop sign

philippe schreef:sorry but I do not shares your views about Stekelenburg : I think he is an excellent goal-kepper

absolutely... he was the best keeper in the eredivisie last season, and i don't understand the hatred at all
I'd be a happy chappy if we sign Suarez :ajaxsmiley.gif: ... a very good player and one who would be an adequate replacement for Perez. If we can add a breakthrough season for Manu to the signings of Suarez :eusa_pray.gif: and Kennedy then everything should be just fine.

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Bericht door dws » vr jul 13, 2007 5:59 pm

orange goblin schreef:in your opinion is suarez more a central striker or a winger?
as far as I know nilsson is a striker that can play on the left, but suarez?
the Uruguayan is a nice player, anyway..I remember some highlights
Suarez plays on the left or as a deep positioned striker.

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Bericht door afckeeper95 » za jul 14, 2007 12:59 am

American Heath Pearce was mentioned around here a while back. He is currently trying out with German Bundesliga side Hansa Rostock and expects to close a deal before the new season starts.

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Bericht door Dubbel » za jul 14, 2007 7:57 am

Looks like Suarez is starting arbitration to shake off Fc Groningen. I pulled this article in today's Telegraaf through the translator.
http://www.telesport.nl/voetbal/1880043 ... _Ajax.html
Suárez by means of the law to Ajax
By our Telesportredactie ZEIST - Luis Suárez (20) has put his focus on Ajax. And the attacker is prepared to go far to realize this dream transfer. Because FC Groningen refuses to negotiate with with the Amsterdammers about a transfer sum for the current obligation(till 2009) of the Uruguayan, Suárez's lawyer Jan Kabalt yesterday submitted a petition at the KNVB for emergency arbitration. Suárez asks in this for dissolution of his contract. "as long as the matter is under the judge, I can give no comment", confirms Kabalt the step of the South American. Luis Suárez is very eager to become Ryan Babels, who left for Liverpool, successor in the Amsterdam ArenA, and that is why he goes frontally in the attack against FC groningen. His current employer finds a transfer to Ajax taboo. At Ajax, Suárez can sign a five-year contract and earn three up to four times as much as in the north. Given earlier judgments the chance is big that because of sport-loving and financial position improvement the contract will dissolve against an x-amount, decided the KNVB arbitration committee.
I have mixed feelings. Sure, Suarez can be a useful addition but if a club says they don't want to sell shouldn't we respect that?

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Bericht door aveslacker » za jul 14, 2007 4:15 pm

Is he any good? Isn't he Uruguayan? That's a strike against him in my book.
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Bericht door Blind3 » za jul 14, 2007 6:28 pm

Suarez will be a good signing unless he is a devotee of the Forlan ManU "how to miss the net without really trying" school of striking excellence.
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Bericht door Venezuelan Ajacied » za jul 14, 2007 9:23 pm

Dubbel schreef:Looks like Suarez is starting arbitration to shake off Fc Groningen. I pulled this article in today's Telegraaf through the translator.
http://www.telesport.nl/voetbal/1880043 ... _Ajax.html
Suárez by means of the law to Ajax
By our Telesportredactie ZEIST - Luis Suárez (20) has put his focus on Ajax. And the attacker is prepared to go far to realize this dream transfer. Because FC Groningen refuses to negotiate with with the Amsterdammers about a transfer sum for the current obligation(till 2009) of the Uruguayan, Suárez's lawyer Jan Kabalt yesterday submitted a petition at the KNVB for emergency arbitration. Suárez asks in this for dissolution of his contract. "as long as the matter is under the judge, I can give no comment", confirms Kabalt the step of the South American. Luis Suárez is very eager to become Ryan Babels, who left for Liverpool, successor in the Amsterdam ArenA, and that is why he goes frontally in the attack against FC groningen. His current employer finds a transfer to Ajax taboo. At Ajax, Suárez can sign a five-year contract and earn three up to four times as much as in the north. Given earlier judgments the chance is big that because of sport-loving and financial position improvement the contract will dissolve against an x-amount, decided the KNVB arbitration committee.
I have mixed feelings. Sure, Suarez can be a useful addition but if a club says they don't want to sell shouldn't we respect that?
It's a complicated matter, sure if a team does not want to sell that should be respected but it depends on the cause...GRONINGEN`S cause has no point...they dont want to sell just because we are ajax plain and simple....that is dumb and unheard off. Ajax....TABOO?? what the fuck ??
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Bericht door dws » za jul 14, 2007 11:36 pm

Venezuelan Ajacied schreef:
Dubbel schreef:Looks like Suarez is starting arbitration to shake off Fc Groningen. I pulled this article in today's Telegraaf through the translator.
http://www.telesport.nl/voetbal/1880043 ... _Ajax.html
Suárez by means of the law to Ajax
By our Telesportredactie ZEIST - Luis Suárez (20) has put his focus on Ajax. And the attacker is prepared to go far to realize this dream transfer. Because FC Groningen refuses to negotiate with with the Amsterdammers about a transfer sum for the current obligation(till 2009) of the Uruguayan, Suárez's lawyer Jan Kabalt yesterday submitted a petition at the KNVB for emergency arbitration. Suárez asks in this for dissolution of his contract. "as long as the matter is under the judge, I can give no comment", confirms Kabalt the step of the South American. Luis Suárez is very eager to become Ryan Babels, who left for Liverpool, successor in the Amsterdam ArenA, and that is why he goes frontally in the attack against FC groningen. His current employer finds a transfer to Ajax taboo. At Ajax, Suárez can sign a five-year contract and earn three up to four times as much as in the north. Given earlier judgments the chance is big that because of sport-loving and financial position improvement the contract will dissolve against an x-amount, decided the KNVB arbitration committee.
I have mixed feelings. Sure, Suarez can be a useful addition but if a club says they don't want to sell shouldn't we respect that?
It's a complicated matter, sure if a team does not want to sell that should be respected but it depends on the cause...GRONINGEN`S cause has no point...they dont want to sell just because we are ajax plain and simple....that is dumb and unheard off. Ajax....TABOO?? what the fuck ??
....... and since when did they have this taboo of selling to Ajax?

Over the years they were happy to sell us players: Ronald Koeman, Marc Verkuyl and Dean Gorre. They have also been happy to sign players from Ajax: Henny Meijer, Rasmus Lindgren, Stefano seedorf, Donovan Slijngard(loan).

Seems a little two faced to say the least.

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Bericht door SE6Ajacied » zo jul 15, 2007 3:49 pm

dws schreef:
Venezuelan Ajacied schreef:
Dubbel schreef:Looks like Suarez is starting arbitration to shake off Fc Groningen. I pulled this article in today's Telegraaf through the translator.
http://www.telesport.nl/voetbal/1880043 ... _Ajax.html I have mixed feelings. Sure, Suarez can be a useful addition but if a club says they don't want to sell shouldn't we respect that?
It's a complicated matter, sure if a team does not want to sell that should be respected but it depends on the cause...GRONINGEN`S cause has no point...they dont want to sell just because we are ajax plain and simple....that is dumb and unheard off. Ajax....TABOO?? what the fuck ??
....... and since when did they have this taboo of selling to Ajax?

Over the years they were happy to sell us players: Ronald Koeman, Marc Verkuyl and Dean Gorre. They have also been happy to sign players from Ajax: Henny Meijer, Rasmus Lindgren, Stefano seedorf, Donovan Slijngard(loan).

Seems a little two faced to say the least.
That does all seem very odd. Is that the 'proper' translation (I see Dubbel put it through an automatic translater and they don't always make the best sense). Or is it that Groningen think we've conned them sometime recently - I can't think of anything.

Anyway, Suárez is a good player so would be happy to see him in an Ajax shirt....
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Bericht door Dubbel » zo jul 15, 2007 5:40 pm

Yeah, these on-line translators a a bit funny. In the context of the article the taboo wasn't specifically a transfer to Ajax but a transfer in general.

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Bericht door dws » zo jul 15, 2007 6:23 pm

Dubbel schreef:Yeah, these on-line translators a a bit funny. In the context of the article the taboo wasn't specifically a transfer to Ajax but a transfer in general.
Happy to read the taboo on selling Suarez is not Ajax specific.

I gather he is a very popular player with the Groningen support .... so no surpise the club are desperate to hold on to him.

I'm not keen on players going to arbitration, so if Ajax do get Suarez I hope that the club pay a fair price for him.

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Bericht door Dubbel » di jul 17, 2007 6:14 am

HTC on the Suarez transfer:
TEN CATE DEMANDS GRONINGEN BACK DOWN

Ajax coach Henk ten Cate believes FC Groningen should resign themselves to losing the services of Luis Suarez this summer.

Groningen have turned down several approaches from Ajax for the striker, prompting Suarez to turn to the arbitration board of the KNVB in a bid to resolve the deadlock.

And now Ten Cate has turned up the heat on Groningen, insisting that Ajax's big-club reputation should persuade their Eredivisie rivals to cede to their demands.

Ten Cate told www.highlow.nl: "A big club calls for a player. They offer you a transfer fee and then you lose him. That is the football world.

"That's a fact since we have professional football and then you can hide yourself from the reality, but that has so little use.

"I do understand the Groningen reaction, but it is not realistic. The player wants to go very much and according to me Ajax is at a higher level than Groningen."

Ten Cate also revealed his admiration for the skills of 20-year-old Suarez, who scored 10 goals in his debut Eredivisie campaign last season, adding that he considers the player to be the ideal replacement for Ryan Babel, who last week joined Liverpool.

"I find Suarez and [AZ Alkmaar's Moussa] Dembele the best young strikers in Holland, after Ryan Babel," the 52-year-old continued.

"I see Luis play in the same role that Babel had at Ajax, free from the left side going towards the goal, making use of his speed and quality.
"Suarez is reasonably fast, too, has a good action. And he can score goals."

http://www.football365.com/story/0,1703 ... 84,00.html

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Bericht door Kowalczyk » di jul 17, 2007 5:26 pm

The Suarez case has been put on the agenda for 30 July.

We'll see.

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Kowalczyk schreef:The Suarez case has been put on the agenda for 30 July.

We'll see.

K.
anybody know whats plan b ???

just in case :confused.gif:
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Venezuelan Ajacied schreef:
Kowalczyk schreef:The Suarez case has been put on the agenda for 30 July.

We'll see.

K.
anybody know whats plan b ???

just in case :confused.gif:
Well, I am even not sure íf there is already an plan B

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Bericht door orange goblin » wo jul 18, 2007 5:53 pm

many reports (but I don't believe them..) claim that we are trying to catch artem milevskiy (F, dinamo kiev) and cesar delgado (RW, cruz azul)..two great players, especially the first one impressed me and at ajax could find his enviroment to develop. but unfortunately I don't think there's something true with this reports.
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orange goblin schreef:many reports (but I don't believe them..) claim that we are trying to catch artem milevskiy (F, dinamo kiev) and cesar delgado (RW, cruz azul)..two great players, especially the first one impressed me and at ajax could find his enviroment to develop. but unfortunately I don't think there's something true with this reports.
Milevky really impressed me in the former under 21 euro but i didnt
see much from him during the season and the senior ukraine side
but no doubt he's got plenty of potential. hope we'll get him

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Bericht door paladinby » wo jul 18, 2007 9:04 pm

Milevskiy is belarusian actually. He played for belarusain u-16 team. And there was a conflict between belarusian and ukranian federations. Then some rules about players switching nationalities were changed, and he was allowed to play for ukraine. Belarusian Football federation got something like 2-3 mln euros for him. But anyway he is a very good player. Andit would be great to see him playing for Ajax.

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Bericht door bluedaddy19 » wo jul 18, 2007 9:19 pm

orange goblin schreef:many reports (but I don't believe them..) claim that we are trying to catch artem milevskiy (F, dinamo kiev) and cesar delgado (RW, cruz azul)..two great players, especially the first one impressed me and at ajax could find his enviroment to develop. but unfortunately I don't think there's something true with this reports.

these would both be unbelievably fantastic catches!!!!

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Bericht door kraz11 » do jul 19, 2007 12:23 am

paladinby schreef:Milevskiy is belarusian actually. He played for belarusain u-16 team. And there was a conflict between belarusian and ukranian federations. Then some rules about players switching nationalities were changed, and he was allowed to play for ukraine. Belarusian Football federation got something like 2-3 mln euros for him. But anyway he is a very good player. Andit would be great to see him playing for Ajax.
Even better couse i also was born in belarus :hupajax.gif:
Anyway it will be great to see him in :ajaxscarf.gif:

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Bericht door SE6Ajacied » do jul 19, 2007 6:43 am

paladinby schreef: Belarusian Football federation got something like 2-3 mln euros for him.
I've not heard of this scenario. Are you saying that the Ukranian National team had to pay a type of transfer fee to the Belorussian Football Association so that he could play for Ukraine instead?

That would be quite incredible imo.
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