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philippe schreef:England 14 - Sarkozy 9

I wouldn't laugh too much. By your analogy that's Brown 14 France 9 and I wouldn't rate Gordon as a hell of a lot better (or has Sarkozy been particularly flag-waving - I haven't seen).

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philippe schreef:England 14 - Sarkozy 9

I wouldn't laugh too much. By your analogy that's Brown 14 France 9 and I wouldn't rate Gordon as a hell of a lot better (or has Sarkozy been particularly flag-waving - I haven't seen).

To say nothing of the fact that Sarkozy beat NZ, led by Helen Clark, who is a pretty big lefty.

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SE6Ajacied schreef:

philippe schreef:England 14 - Sarkozy 9

I wouldn't laugh too much. By your analogy that's Brown 14 France 9 and I wouldn't rate Gordon as a hell of a lot better (or has Sarkozy been particularly flag-waving - I haven't seen).

To say nothing of the fact that Sarkozy beat NZ, led by Helen Clark, who is a pretty big lefty.

Well at the risk of being controversial and political (the second one is a bit of a taboo on this forum I know), I'd agree that Helen Clark pursues a broadly left wing agenda but I'd hardly call a pretty big lefty.

Perhaps I missed something (or perhaps it depends on your starting position ).

I don't follow Rugby Union anyway. In England (not so much Scotland/Wales) it's definately a much posher pursuit than football....................

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philippe schreef:England 14 - Sarkozy 9

I wouldn't laugh too much. By your analogy that's Brown 14 France 9 and I wouldn't rate Gordon as a hell of a lot better (or has Sarkozy been particularly flag-waving - I haven't seen).

At least Sarkozy is authentic French, whereas Broon is pretendy English.

dws schreef:whereas Broon is pretendy English.

I wouldn't say so tbh, that's certainly not how the English media portray him. In politics he's obviously English (and Scottish/Welsh etc) PM but in real life he always at least seems keen to stay close to his roots.

At least I suppose Brown is a genuine sports fan - Raith Rovers, unlike Blair who 'supports' Newcastle and claimed to remember watching Jackie Milburn play, despite the No. 9 retiring 5 years before Blair was born.....

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aveslacker schreef:

SE6Ajacied schreef: I wouldn't laugh too much. By your analogy that's Brown 14 France 9 and I wouldn't rate Gordon as a hell of a lot better (or has Sarkozy been particularly flag-waving - I haven't seen).

To say nothing of the fact that Sarkozy beat NZ, led by Helen Clark, who is a pretty big lefty.

Well at the risk of being controversial and political (the second one is a bit of a taboo on this forum I know), I'd agree that Helen Clark pursues a broadly left wing agenda but I'd hardly call a pretty big lefty.

Perhaps I missed something (or perhaps it depends on your starting position ).

I don't follow Rugby Union anyway. In England (not so much Scotland/Wales) it's definately a much posher pursuit than football....................

Fair point. In this example, my frame of reference is that I would consider Clark to the left of Brown and Sarkozy. That seems a fair statement, (and not straying too far into taboo discussion areas) no?

SE6Ajacied schreef:

dws schreef:whereas Broon is pretendy English.

I wouldn't say so tbh, that's certainly not how the English media portray him. In politics he's obviously English (and Scottish/Welsh etc) PM but in real life he always at least seems keen to stay close to his roots.

At least I suppose Brown is a genuine sports fan - Raith Rovers, unlike Blair who 'supports' Newcastle and claimed to remember watching Jackie Milburn play, despite the No. 9 retiring 5 years before Blair was born.....

Aye and the same Maggie Broon who claimed his favourite ever goal was Fat Gazza's goal against Scotland at Euro 96 - never known a Scotsman in my life to claim that was his favourite goal ever.

Oh and while I am here too - rugby in Scotland is as much class ridden as it is down south - mostly played in public schools and the farming areas of the Borders, although maybe now watched by all but I would say the same as it is in England.

aveslacker schreef:

SE6Ajacied schreef:

aveslacker schreef: To say nothing of the fact that Sarkozy beat NZ, led by Helen Clark, who is a pretty big lefty.

Well at the risk of being controversial and political (the second one is a bit of a taboo on this forum I know), I'd agree that Helen Clark pursues a broadly left wing agenda but I'd hardly call a pretty big lefty.

Perhaps I missed something (or perhaps it depends on your starting position ).

I don't follow Rugby Union anyway. In England (not so much Scotland/Wales) it's definately a much posher pursuit than football....................

Fair point. In this example, my frame of reference is that I would consider Clark to the left of Brown and Sarkozy. That seems a fair statement, no?

Yeah, you're right on that - but then it isn't too hard.......

jamcocteau schreef:

SE6Ajacied schreef:

dws schreef:whereas Broon is pretendy English.

I wouldn't say so tbh, that's certainly not how the English media portray him. In politics he's obviously English (and Scottish/Welsh etc) PM but in real life he always at least seems keen to stay close to his roots.

At least I suppose Brown is a genuine sports fan - Raith Rovers, unlike Blair who 'supports' Newcastle and claimed to remember watching Jackie Milburn play, despite the No. 9 retiring 5 years before Blair was born.....

Aye and the same Maggie Broon who claimed his favourite ever goal was Fat Gazza's goal against Scotland at Euro 96 - never known a Scotsman in my life to claim that was his favourite goal ever.

lol, oh yeah - I'd forgotton about that - damn silly thing to say. How to alienate yopur own part of the UK (Scotland) and make yourself look an insincere prat to the rest of it.

Re the Scottish Rugby, that's what a guy at work keeps telling me when I say I don't watch it - seems about right to me though, thinking of the Scots RL club teams I've heard of.

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philippe schreef:England 14 - Sarkozy 9

I wouldn't laugh too much. By your analogy that's Brown 14 France 9 and I wouldn't rate Gordon as a hell of a lot better (or has Sarkozy been particularly flag-waving - I haven't seen).

you should have seen him jumping up during the NZ game;

besides the French coach is about to join the gouvernment;

anyways, as I said before, the right wing brings bad luck, even with rugby

philippe schreef:

SE6Ajacied schreef:

philippe schreef:England 14 - Sarkozy 9

I wouldn't laugh too much. By your analogy that's Brown 14 France 9 and I wouldn't rate Gordon as a hell of a lot better (or has Sarkozy been particularly flag-waving - I haven't seen).

you should have seen him jumping up during the NZ game;

besides the French coach is about to join the gouvernment;

anyways, as I said before, the right wing brings bad luck, even with rugby

Which is why I bring up the example of New Zealand, led by someone who is clearly to the left of Sarkozy, losing to... France.

carcajou schreef:The referee.... The sore loser's favourite excuse.

If I were a kiwi, I'd question the absolute inability of the new zealanders to make their way through the french barbed wire defence, I'd say that Dan Carter's injury surely affected his production, but the referee??

Come on, you know better....

Ah yes, like noone here on these boards has ever had a go at the ref after an Ajax game. I will point out that I said NZ choked, and did not actually outright blame the ref.

As to Helen Clark, like someone said, broadly left-wing, but politics in NZ have yet to become radical. The two main parties are still very close to the centre.

jamcocteau schreef: Oh and while I am here too - rugby in Scotland is as much class ridden as it is down south.

That's a bit of a myth .................................... nowadays.

Just a couple of points:

In the last few years the presence of state educated players in the Scotland squad ( eg; Euan Murray, Scott Murray, Ally Hogg, Jason White, Nikki Walker and Ally Kellock) has increased dramatically.

I'd bet my life that most people ( players, officials and supporters) involved at clubs such as Gloucester, Bath, Bristol and Leicester are from working class stock.

ps: Great result against Ukraine .... here's for more of the same in Tbilisi.

These wildfires here are something else. Anyone else here been evacuated? Almost wish I was back in Holland where the environment is more moderate.

Yes we have been evacced from rancho bernardo for 4 days just got backlate today. thankfully we have a home to come back to.
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I hope you guys are both safe, and that you didn't suffer any damage to your possessions.

This is brilliant.

For some reason they named this little video 'Worst Goals Ever'. Weird title, because they're not goals at all... (except for the last one, which is why it's the most hilarious one of 'em all).

http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/30127/b ... goals.html

K.

Kowalczyk schreef:This is brilliant.

For some reason they named this little video 'Worst Goals Ever'. Weird title, because they're not goals at all... (except for the last one, which is why it's the most hilarious one of 'em all).

http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/30127/b ... goals.html

K.

Except for the two last ones, of course. Funny it is!

Thomvak425 schreef:

Kowalczyk schreef:This is brilliant.

For some reason they named this little video 'Worst Goals Ever'. Weird title, because they're not goals at all... (except for the last one, which is why it's the most hilarious one of 'em all).

http://www.dumpert.nl/mediabase/30127/b ... goals.html

K.

Except for the two last ones, of course. Funny it is!

What a fuckin' awesome video. Love the last one -- Butt was so cocky after he scored. Oops.

Dutchman to get bravery award
http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/ ... d=rss_news

A bit of a follow-up to the shootings here in Melbourne in June of this year.

The heroic efforts of a Dutch backpacker who nearly died during a triple shooting in Melbourne's CBD have earned him a prestigious international bravery award...

Nice one!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1vwKZiDsY4

hehehehe

This is pretty random. Can someone who speaks Dutch better than me (not difficult) tell me how you pronounce the name Sjoukje?

Thanks a lot

SE6Ajacied schreef:This is pretty random. Can someone who speaks Dutch better than me (not difficult) tell me how you pronounce the name Sjoukje?

Thanks a lot

use the sh sound from shame, the ou sound from mount, queue without the u sound on the end for the kj and a short e.

;)

I LOVE the reaction of the players after they score against the keeper at the end. Perfect re-creation...

Raymon schreef:

SE6Ajacied schreef:This is pretty random. Can someone who speaks Dutch better than me (not difficult) tell me how you pronounce the name Sjoukje?

Thanks a lot

use the sh sound from shame, the ou sound from mount, queue without the u sound on the end for the kj and a short e.

;)

Cheers Raymon