Ajaxtalk

SPL schreef:Well sadly Cruijff's policy that player development is more important than results has died with him. Cerny and Nouri should have been playing Jong on Friday but winning the U19 league is more important so they played for A1 v PSV yesterday and we lost 2-1,PSV winner on 94 mins.A1 have to win all 4 remaining games to stand a chance of being champs.

It gets worse ,these 2 kids will play for A1 v Fword on Tuesday so they wont play for Jong tomorrow.These 2 lads have outgrown youth football

Ajax wants to make sure the Under 17 team will qualify in the Youth League again next season so that players like De Ligt and Justin Kluivert can develop at that level.

Cruijff schreef:

SPL schreef:Well sadly Cruijff's policy that player development is more important than results has died with him. Cerny and Nouri should have been playing Jong on Friday but winning the U19 league is more important so they played for A1 v PSV yesterday and we lost 2-1,PSV winner on 94 mins.A1 have to win all 4 remaining games to stand a chance of being champs.

It gets worse ,these 2 kids will play for A1 v Fword on Tuesday so they wont play for Jong tomorrow.These 2 lads have outgrown youth football

Ajax wants to make sure the Under 17 team will qualify in the Youth League again next season so that players like De Ligt and Justin Kluivert can develop at that level.

But if they win the league the youth team automatically qualifies, correct?

Orange14 schreef:

Cruijff schreef:Ajax wants to make sure the Under 17 team will qualify in the Youth League again next season so that players like De Ligt and Justin Kluivert can develop at that level.

But if they win the league the youth team automatically qualifies, correct?

When Ajax will win the Eredivisie, the youth team automatically qualifies. To get at least 6 matches in exact the same group as Ajax will draw in Champions League.

Probably the leading people in the academy don't trust Frank de Boer and his team to finish above PSV Eindhoven...?

Cruijff schreef:
Probably the leading people in the academy don't trust Frank de Boer and his team to finish above PSV Eindhoven...?

LOL!!!!!! You are probably correct!

But I'm (almost) about to get on the point that I'm starting to hope that Frank will stay longer, because number 1 on the list to be the new trainer is John vd Brom.

If the A1 wins the title and De Boers team finishes second, our Under 17 will play an alternative youth league like we saw this season with matches against Schalke 04 and Spartak Moscow. When Ajax 1 wins the Eredivisie or makes it through the Champions League qualifications our Under 17 will draw the exact same Champions League group as De Boer's team, with the difference that the Under 17 gets through to the knock-out fase quite easy, normally.

Cheers Cruijff ,I should have made it clearer. They clearly want to win the U19 title so this years B1 will play in the U19 CL next year but my moan is that Cerny and Nouri should be playing for Jong Ajax and have outgrown youth football. Nouri should be on the first team bench , 20 mins of him Saturday night could not possibly be as worse as what we saw.

Lets hope our first team become champs then our U19 qualify automatically.

SPL schreef:Cheers Cruijff ,I should have made it clearer. They clearly want to win the U19 title so this years B1 will play in the U19 CL next year but my moan is that Cerny and Nouri should be playing for Jong Ajax and have outgrown youth football.

My moan is that Cerny does not get any minutes in the first team anymore from Frank de Boer.

The times he came in as a winger more attractive things happened than in many other games. We all remember that how skillfull his winning goal was at Celtic Park despite the poor pass given by Milik.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCGQdZu879U

FDB said he wanted Cerny to play more 90 min games for Jong rather than the odd few minutes for the firsts.Still not sure how playing for A1 youths is good for his development.

Both Cerny and Muric are extremely talented. I assume that the experiment with Schöne as a right wing is rapidly drawing to a close so we have five capable wingers for next season: el Ghazi, Younes, Fischer, Cerny, and Muric; pretty decent depth and el Ghazi can always slot into the middle on occasion.

Well our A1 ,with Nouri and Cerny beat F word A1 1-0 today and are still 3rd , 2 points behind AZ and level with PSV but a poorer goal difference than PSV. Ajax still have to play AZ and with 3 games to go need to win all 3 and hope PSV drop a point.

Hugh clearout by Ajax as today they have decided to drop their A2 youth team.

A2 made up of U19's who dont seem good enough for the A1.Hopefully it means more of the talented A1 get into Jong Ajax earlier,and the best B1 playing at A1 level, well I think thats the idea. Only Fword have an A2 team but of course they dont have a Jong team in the Jupiler league.

There will be lots of kids unhappy as about 20 need to be released .

Our A1 beat Utrecht 4-0 yesterday and are now 2nd in their league with 2 to play, AZ are 2 points ahead but next week we play AZ.

As our Jong Ajax play on Friday I would hope Cerny and Nouri are playing for them and not in the youth side but I wont hold my breath .

Some A1 game today ,we beat top team Az 4-3 and are now top on GD from PSV.If both win their last games next week there will be a playoff. Psv I believe play Az we play Willem.

We were 3-1 down ,Nunnely the first, then de Ligt pulled it back to 2-3 and we scored 2 in injury time de Ligt and Sierhuis to make it 4-3. Nouri played for 20 mins as sub but got 2 yellows in injury time so got a red .

Sierhuis must stay!

Never mind what happened in England today ,the most important game of all was Ajax A1 beating Willem 2-0. PSV also won and both sides now level on points, with us having a better goal difference, but there is a play off this week in Arnhem.

Eiting ,DM ,scored both goals today and together with Zeefuik, a defender still without a contract ,were the best players. Nouri played last week and got 2 yellows so was banned today but I expect Ajax will pick him and v d Beek for the playoff.

Of course the best player of A1 this season de Ligt is missing with Dutch u17's

Playoff tomorrow in Emmen between our A1 and PSV A1 If we win we will be in the U19 CL next season.Nouri is playing.I can understand them playing him ,v d Beek is not, but its barmy that he should still be playing at this level.He would have done better than those 3 muppets who played for us yesterday.

Playoff with PSV currently in the 2nd half and we are 1-0 up,a superb free kick from the left touchline straight into the top corner of the PSV goal. Obviously it was scored by Nouri. Goal on Ajaxshowtime twitter.

SPL schreef:Playoff with PSV currently in the 2nd half and we are 1-0 up,a superb free kick from the left touchline straight into the top corner of the PSV goal. Obviously it was scored by Nouri. Goal on Ajaxshowtime twitter.

Imagine if he was on the pitch this past Sunday! Next year for sure.

We won 1-0 and are champions and qualify for the U19 CL next season.One bit of class by Nouri made the difference

Should Nouri be loaned out for first team football experience?

Ayman schreef:Should Nouri be loaned out for first team football experience?

Why? He's better than any MF currently on the senior team.

100% agree with Orange, Nouri is our best MF and should be in the first team next season. Based on the Jong games I saw ,Nouri and deJong both looked better than Sinkgraven.

The old Amsterdam Cup for U19 is now the Nextgen series and is this weekend at the Olympic stadium. Barcelona today Galatasary and ASA UTD tomorrow with semis and finals on Monday.No Tv links.

Not very well arranged as we have 4 players with the Dutch U17's and its school exams ie Eiting only plays today v Barcelona and Walian cannot play on Monday .3 others from our A2 who are staying next season are also doing exams. In addition its the last A2 game today and some are having to play for them

Nouri is not playing but to make up the numbers Jong Ajax Groothuizen, Clement and Sanniez are playing.

Of the 20 man squad 5 stand out as they are those with no contracts!

de Lange the goalie,Sierhuis,Zeefuik, plus 2 B1 U17's Lang, and 15 year old LB/CD Mitchell Bakker. Lang is now just 17 and has played 1 or 2 games for A1 in the last few weeks and Bakker debuted for A1 last week.

Today there is more criticism of Ajax not giving contracts to Maylen and Fosu-Mensah and the lack of contracts to those mentioned above.

We beat Barcelona 1-0 with Sierhuis scoring the goal ,Gabri our old player is their coach.Games last 50 mins ,2 games tomorrow

2nd game we won 2-0 v ASA utd ,(seems to be a made up team of Ghanians) El Idrissi and Boultam scored.

Galatasary next up later.