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343 schreef:Hmmm, you deleted all the posts, Ko?

Yes, I did. I would have re-posted the replies here too, had there been any information in them. There were two or three replies, but none of 'em contained the answer to neilg's question. One basically said 'I don't know' and another one basically said 'you're asking this in the wrong zone'...

K.

Strange, because i posted in that thread almost the same reply as i did in this one.....

I've just bought this book "50 Years of the European Cup and Champions League" by Keir Radnedge. A really great book with loads of good pictures and an intersting little story from 1972.

It's about the time when Rinus Michels left for Barcelona and Stefan Kovacs arrived as manager. Apparetly the players were a bit put out that Michels had gone. "Kovacs was a scarcely known Romanian whose short grey hair and squat build marked him out as anything but a football man.

"How do you like the length of our hair?" the players asked him on his first day, ready to challenge some stereotypically authoritarian East European response. "I've been employed as a football coach not a hairdresser," Kovacs told them sensing the tension and knowing there was more to come.

Kovacs let the staff run the first training sessions while he observed from the touchline. Suddenly, out of a group of players, a football was fizzed directly at Kovacs at around knee height. He raised his right foot, bought the ball down smoothly out of its flight, trapped it and then knocked it back. No-one taunted him again after that"

This really is a great book. Keir Radnedge is a very well respected football journalist with "World Soccer" magazine in Britain amongst others.

Suddenly, out of a group of players, a football was fizzed directly at Kovacs at around knee height. He raised his right foot, bought the ball down smoothly out of its flight, trapped it and then knocked it back. No-one taunted him again after that"

I remember reading that story; can't recall if it was from 'johan Cruijff superstar'. Anyway, if memory serves me correct, the player attributed with striking the ball towards Kovacs was Piet Keizer.Good thing nobody tried that with Koeman on his first day as coach.

SE6, you may be interested to know that there is a book titled: Ajax,Barcelona,Cruyff by Frits Barend and Henk Van Dorp; priced at £6:99.
I could post a link if thats ok with Ko and the site mods. Failing that,if you are interested, i can pm the link.

dws schreef:SE6, you may be interested to know that there is a book titled: Ajax,Barcelona,Cruyff by Frits Barend and Henk Van Dorp; priced at £6:99.
I could post a link if thats ok with Ko and the site mods. Failing that,if you are interested, i can pm the link.

Thanks dws, I actually picked up a second-hand copy of that last week but haven't read it yet.....obviously Mr Radnedge has though :D

SE6, expect to see you on Mastermind .... specialist subject JC. No Dutchies allowed . That would just be cheating :D .

dws schreef: Ajax,Barcelona,Cruyff by Frits Barend and Henk Van Dorp

a very interesting book that I would strongly recommend; some of the diaologues from JC interviews are just masterpieces

ajaxusa schreef:A GREAT read...

L'Equipe Magazine asked this question: "What was the best European game ever?" Many European journalists voted, and the winner was... Ajax Amsterdam - Bayern Munchen, 1973.

I've got this game on DVD, given to me by a friend some years ago. The quality is still very good ! Not sure where my friend got it from, but it is avaialable here: http://www.hometown.aol.com/soccerworldp/index.html

Ajax, 15 Years Ago: December 1990

http://www.ajax-usa.com/history/fifteen ... -1990.html

I warn you, the shocking contrast between Ajax then and Ajax now is very disturbing...

ajaxusa schreef:Ajax, 15 Years Ago: December 1990

http://www.ajax-usa.com/history/fifteen ... -1990.html

Now with a picture of our good Swedish mate Stefan Pettersson in action!

K.

New year, new month... and a new installment of 15 Years Ago! :yes:

http://www.ajax-usa.com/history/fifteen ... -1991.html

Only on Ajax USA we have the privilege to wish you a great 2005 and a great 1991.

;)

Edit: An old Dutch football tradition is the annual friendly on New Year's Day between Royal HFC (Holland's oldest football club, currently playing in the Second Class of amateur football) and a the 'Old Internationals' team. It was played for the 73rd time today and the former Oranje stars won by the score of 4-1. Goals were scored by Pieter Huistra and former Ajacieden Bryan Roy, Michel Kreek and Richard Witschge. It was the 40th win for 'Old Oranje'. Royal HFC won 21 times and there were 12 draws.

K.

Edit: An old Dutch football tradition is the annual friendly on New Year's Day between Royal HFC (Holland's oldest football club, currently playing in the Second Class of amateur football) and a the 'Old Internationals' team. It was played for the 73rd time today and the former Oranje stars won by the score of 4-1. Goals were scored by Pieter Huistra and former Ajacieden Bryan Roy, Michel Kreek and Richard Witschge. It was the 40th win for 'Old Oranje'. Royal HFC won 21 times and there were 12 draws.

K.[/quote]

Where do they play these games?

Kowalczyk schreef: Only on Ajax USA we have the privilege to wish you a great 2005 and a great 1991.
;)

Too late for 2005, it was shit. Thanks.

Now roll on to 2006

Truly yours,

Bertrand 'Smartass' Chardon.

De Kuyper schreef:Where do they play these games?

At the home ground of the Royal HFC in Haarlem. Very low key amateur ground.

For years I've been planning to go to this game once, but for some reason I never have much energy on January 1st... :D

@ Carcajou: smart-ass... 2006... ;)

K.

Kowalczyk schreef: For years I've been planning to go to this game once, but for some reason I never have much energy on January 1st... :D

We should plan something for next year. I'll bring champagne ;)

I had lots of energy the first couple of hours of january 1st.

Then it all kind of faded.

Got me thinking of Ajax.

What do you think is the greatest 11 for Ajax of alltime?

My line up would be of the Ajax of all time would be:-


______________________________Jongbloed_______________________________

____Suubier________Haan________________F.de Boer____________Krol_______

___Vansch'ipt______Cruijff____________Wouters____________Overmars

_________________ Bergkamp________Van Basten________________________

-------------------------- Van der Sar --------------------------------

-- Suurbier --------- Blind ---------- Rijkaard ------ Krol------------

-- Neeskens ------------ Cruijff --------------- G. Mühren ----------

-- Bergkamp ---------- Van Basten ----------- Keizer --------------

(I think... If you ask me again tomorrow, some things might change...)

K.

@ Ayman: 442?

VD Sar

Suurbier Blind F dBoer Krol

Neeskens Cruijff Davids

Bergkamp V Basten Overmars

aveslacker schreef:@ Ayman: 442?

Come on Ave, haven't you learnt your lesson already ?

It's not about a SYSTEM, it's about how you play.

<Insert Spartak Moskow references, and some journalist bullshit about 442 and 433>

;)

OH I almost forgot :

Here's mine :

Van Der Sar

Cruyff - Bergkamp

Revealing the Holy Prophecy : Bergkamp and Cryuff in the same team at the same time will stop time, resulting in an easy 80 - 0 victory in any game.

I win.

Does that still work with a 36 year old Bergkamp and a 60 year old Cruijff? Or would that only be 40-0?

De Kuyper schreef:Does that still work with a 36 year old Bergkamp and a 60 year old Cruijff? Or would that only be 40-0?

Well honestly, I do think that Bergkamp has more talent in one of his booger than our whole current team.... So I guess that could work.