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Re: New Players for Ajax
Geplaatst: wo apr 13, 2016 2:27 pm
door Cruijff
Ayman schreef:Lets hope Doekhi doesnt carry that ill disciplined and clumsy gene that was pased on to Bogarde
Well Winston Bogarde was very disciplined in collecting his paycheck from Chelsea every month.

Re: New Players for Ajax
Geplaatst: wo apr 13, 2016 3:22 pm
door Orange14
Cruijff schreef:Ayman schreef:Lets hope Doekhi doesnt carry that ill disciplined and clumsy gene that was pased on to Bogarde
Well Winston Bogarde was very disciplined in collecting his paycheck from Chelsea every month.

IIRC, he did show up to train every day. In my mind that's deserving of the money!!!

Re: New Players for Ajax
Geplaatst: wo apr 13, 2016 6:52 pm
door Cruijff
Orange14 schreef:Cruijff schreef:Well Winston Bogarde was very disciplined in collecting his paycheck from Chelsea every month.

IIRC, he did show up to train every day. In my mind that's deserving of the money!!!

Yes he did

and if you take money away from f*cking Chelsea, it's always deserved in my eyes.
At that time he bought a very big house in Zwanenburg, nearby Schiphol Amsterdam Airport. He took a daily flight to Gatwick or Luton (don't know which one is closest to the Chelsea training ground) and showed up on time for the training every day.
Chelsea was pissed off having to pay a high salary a couple of years for a player that did not play for the first team. Meanwhile they used players like Mario Melchiot, also not a great defender.
They tried to provoke Winston Bogarde, wanted to get him into a fight so that he would punch a teammate or a coach and then Chelsea could fire him. But Bogarde new he had a big of an agressive character but meanwhile he thought "f*ck you Chelsea, you can't piss me off and I will take all your money"

Re: New Players for Ajax
Geplaatst: wo apr 13, 2016 6:52 pm
door SPL
Their training ground in those days was very near Heathrow so he flew from Amsterdam to Heathrow everyday.
Re: New Players for Ajax
Geplaatst: wo apr 13, 2016 6:54 pm
door Cruijff
SPL schreef:And he flew from Amsterdam every day ,but their training ground in those days was very near Heathrow.
We post the same anecdote at almost the same time.
Yes you're correct, the training ground that time was very near London City Airport or Heathrow. Probably it's Heathrow as you are British you will probably know it.

Re: New Players for Ajax
Geplaatst: wo apr 13, 2016 6:57 pm
door SPL
I thought I had not seen your post ,but have just altered mine
Re: New Players for Ajax
Geplaatst: wo apr 13, 2016 7:20 pm
door Cruijff
Yes 6 seconds time difference between our post.
At the end of his career Winston Bogarde appeared in a Dutch tv commercial with the slogan
'Winston. Ton Winst.' You've got any idea what that means?

Re: New Players for Ajax
Geplaatst: wo apr 13, 2016 8:10 pm
door SPL
No ,please tell.
Re: New Players for Ajax
Geplaatst: wo apr 13, 2016 8:43 pm
door Cruijff
Tomorrow, now I'm going out to a pub to have some beers.
Perhaps another Dutchie who's English is better than mine could already explain this word joke / pun.

Re: New Players for Ajax
Geplaatst: do apr 14, 2016 3:15 pm
door Manneken Pis
"Winston. Ton Winst" means "Winston. A tonne (ie. a thousand kilos) in profit".
Re: New Players for Ajax
Geplaatst: do apr 14, 2016 5:44 pm
door SPL
Cheers fro the explanation.
Re: New Players for Ajax
Geplaatst: do apr 14, 2016 6:40 pm
door Arthur
Manneken Pis schreef:"Winston. Ton Winst" means "Winston. A tonne (ie. a thousand kilos) in profit".
A "ton" in this case means a 100.000 euros. He was in a commercial for a kind of lottery when they made this joke.
Re: New Players for Ajax
Geplaatst: do apr 14, 2016 6:48 pm
door Sandro
Yep, winst = profit, and what a 'ton' is, is pretty clear. So this lottery thought it was funny to switch the two syllables of his name and make two words out of it : 'ton' and 'winst'...
Re: New Players for Ajax
Geplaatst: do apr 14, 2016 9:54 pm
door Cruijff
Yes exactly! Thanks for explaning.
And this is the commercial:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIb96JKjDrA
Re: New Players for Ajax
Geplaatst: za apr 16, 2016 1:44 pm
door Ayman
Zlatan (34) Huntelaar (33) Robben (32) what a mouth watering front three attack that would be for Ajax!!!!
Re: New Players for Ajax
Geplaatst: ma apr 18, 2016 7:30 pm
door Cruijff
Ayman schreef:Zlatan (34) Huntelaar (33) Robben (32) what a mouth watering front three attack that would be for Ajax!!!!
True.
Can't remember that we've ever had an attack with an average age as high as 33.
But Arjen Robben doesn't like Ajax. Robben, and especially his mother, felt insulted by Leo Beenhakker when he was our director and Ajax were really close to buy Robben from FC Groningen.
Hot news today: Not only PSV but also Ajax is really going after Vincent Janssen now. Feyenoord is not likely to buy him as he is now getting too expensive for them and they don't like to admit that they made a big mistake with sending him away from their academy.

Re: New Players for Ajax
Geplaatst: wo apr 20, 2016 10:51 am
door Cruijff
Re: New Players for Ajax
Geplaatst: wo apr 20, 2016 8:09 pm
door Cruijff
You can use Google Translate to 'cover' Huntelaars words:
Huntelaar over Ajax: "Ik overweeg het"
http://www.msn.com/nl-nl/sport/voetbal/ ... ailsignout
Re: New Players for Ajax
Geplaatst: do apr 21, 2016 1:00 pm
door Orange14
FdB had a rather interesting comment regarding Huntelaar. he noted that the club does need another striker as el Ghazi is the only back up right now and Dohlberg is not ready for first team action. No mention at all of Zivkovic. I guess he is on the outs with FdB and probably not long for Ajax though it's difficult to see who will take him given his very poor loan spell with Willem II.
Re: New Players for Ajax
Geplaatst: do apr 21, 2016 3:42 pm
door Tom_
Also he said we need *two* strikers which makes me wonder what will happen with Milik...
Re: New Players for Ajax
Geplaatst: do apr 21, 2016 6:23 pm
door SPL
What will we do with El Azzouzi as he is scoring goals for Twente! I assume he will be loaned again or sold.Zivkovic will be loaned and Hendriks our 3rd Jong Ajax striker sold. If Milik is sold not sure we will buy 2 strikers.
Re: New Players for Ajax
Geplaatst: do apr 21, 2016 7:04 pm
door Orange14
all of this really depends on whether Milik stays with Ajax. Personally, I think el Ghazi's best position is as striker.
Re: New Players for Ajax
Geplaatst: do apr 21, 2016 8:33 pm
door Tom_
Which implies that we need to find a RW for next season, too.
Re: New Players for Ajax
Geplaatst: vr apr 22, 2016 12:12 pm
door rjf1
Get Lukoki back? Only half kidding -- at least he could beat his man going down the wing -- which none of our other r wingers can do.
Re: New Players for Ajax
Geplaatst: vr apr 22, 2016 12:21 pm
door Cruijff
rjf1 schreef:Get Lukoki back? Only half kidding -- at least he could beat his man going down the wing -- which none of our other r wingers can do.
Hmm not Lukoki in my eyes.
Sheraldo Becker and Queense Meening are playing better, lately. Ridiculous name by the way, Queensy.