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I think he's realizing that his time at Ajax is limited. Gentenaar is more than 10 years older than Vermeer and he really isn't the future goalkeeper. I think all he could have realistically hoped for is that Stekelenberg would move on soon and he could take over for a year or two before Vermeer, but it's not looking like that's going to happen due to how Vermeer has been developing. I think it's more important Vermeer sees more important first team action because of this.

Hey Gentenaar, have a little cheese with your whine. It's one thing to be frustrated with losing your place in the staring 11 , but losing a spot on the bench?

So I suppose this means that my picture of Vermeer and Gentenaar walking along chatting and laughing together at training last month is now a historical artefact

Dennis needs to get over himself!

Or get himself over to Vitesse, Heracles, or somewhere else.

Here's the pots (based on UEFA rankings) for Tuesday's UEFA Cup draw...

Pot 1
AC Milan
Sevilla
Valencia
Benfica
Schalke 04
CSKA Moskou
Tottenham Hotspur
Hamburger SV

Pot 2
VfB Stuttgart
Ajax
Olympiakos Piraeus
Deportivo La Coruña
Club Brugge
Spartak Moskou
Paris Saint-Germain
SC Heerenveen

Pot 3
Rosenborg BK
Udinese
Feyenoord
Sporting Braga
Slavia Praag
Manchester City
Galatasaray
Sampdoria

Pot 4
Hertha BSC
Partizan Belgrade
AS Nancy Lorraine
Portsmouth FC
Aston Villa
Racing Santander
FC København
Dinamo Zagreb

Pot 5
AS Saint-Étienne
VfL Wolfsburg
Standard Luik
FC Twente
NEC Nijmegen
Metalist Kharkiv
Lech Poznan
MSK Zilina

K.

Nice teams. Almost no weak teams left in the draw

That's right. I mean: if St. Etienne and Belgian champions Standard Liege are in pot 5, the pot for the weakest sides... then it's a strong field over-all. Manchester City or Sampdoria from pot 3... It's not gonna be easy.

K.

Kowalczyk schreef:That's right. I mean: if St. Etienne and Belgian champions Standard Liege are in pot 5, the pot for the weakest sides... then it's a strong field over-all. Manchester City or Sampdoria from pot 3... It's not gonna be easy.

K.

And who says the UEFA Cup is shite? At least its interesting.

DanK schreef:And who says the UEFA Cup is shite?

I, for one, have never said that. Absolutely never, 'cos I genuinely think that's bollocks.

K.

Loking forward to the draw! Nice teams, nice trips I hope for!!

Kowalczyk schreef:

DanK schreef:And who says the UEFA Cup is shite?

I, for one, have never said that. Absolutely never, 'cos I genuinely think that's bollocks.

K.

Sorry mate. Wasn't referring to any comments you have made personally. Just responding to your post.

It's the 'general' football supporters and media etc who seem to think its some lower class of tournament. Personally I think the UEFA Cup has been more interesting than the past 4 or 5 season of the CL.

Barca v Chelsea? Im over it.

Kowalczyk schreef:Here's the pots (based on UEFA rankings) for Tuesday's UEFA Cup draw...

Pot 1
AC Milan
Sevilla
Valencia
Benfica
Schalke 04
CSKA Moskou
Tottenham Hotspur
Hamburger SV

Pot 2
VfB Stuttgart
Ajax
Olympiakos Piraeus
Deportivo La Coruña
Club Brugge
Spartak Moskou
Paris Saint-Germain
SC Heerenveen

Pot 3
Rosenborg BK
Udinese
Feyenoord
Sporting Braga
Slavia Praag
Manchester City
Galatasaray
Sampdoria

Pot 4
Hertha BSC
Partizan Belgrade
AS Nancy Lorraine
Portsmouth FC
Aston Villa
Racing Santander
FC København
Dinamo Zagreb

Pot 5
AS Saint-Étienne
VfL Wolfsburg
Standard Luik
FC Twente
NEC Nijmegen
Metalist Kharkiv
Lech Poznan
MSK Zilina

K.

Just give me:

Milan
Slavia Prague
FC Kobenhavn
Zilina

....To bad Dynamo Zagreb barely ended up in pot four...the could have been the icing on the cake for the "Vendetta Group"

I gotta say, there seem to be a lot of strong teams in the UEFA cup this year.

Spurs (away)
Brage (home)
Herha BSC (home)
Standard Liege (away)

Now that would be awesome!

K.

I'll go with you all the way with Spurs and Standard, Ko. I'm pretty sure I'd go to Belgium for the Standard-match, ticket or no ticket.

As for the teams from pot 3 and 4, I'd like to play Kopenhagen and Slavia Prague again. Revenge would be sweet.

Thomas schreef:I'll go with you all the way with Spurs and Standard, Ko. I'm pretty sure I'd go to Belgium for the Standard-match, ticket or no ticket.

As for the teams from pot 3 and 4, I'd like to play Kopenhagen and Slavia Prague again. Revenge would be sweet.

For me no more Praha or Kopenhagen. Been there both twice I think to see Ajax play. Been there done that. Same goes for Milan.
Spurs would be a great away game!!

Spurs and Hertha would be cool.

MIKE_ZUID2 (ASR_AFCA) schreef:

Thomas schreef:I'll go with you all the way with Spurs and Standard, Ko. I'm pretty sure I'd go to Belgium for the Standard-match, ticket or no ticket.

As for the teams from pot 3 and 4, I'd like to play Kopenhagen and Slavia Prague again. Revenge would be sweet.

For me no more Praha or Kopenhagen. Been there both twice I think to see Ajax play. Been there done that. Same goes for Milan.
Spurs would be a great away game!!

But you have to think about the chances of Ajax progressing to a certain extent as well. I wouldn't be too happy if we'd draw Valencia, Manchester City, Hertha BSC and Standard.

As mentioned in the match thread (I think) yesterday. A pretty full slate of Dutch teams and poor performances in the last round for Portuguese/Romanian teams, which should only help with the Netherlands' UEFA coefficient.

There are definitely some heavyweights as far as the draw will be concerned, but we're still going to have to win, no matter who it is against, to get out of the group stage and progress in the tournament. So at this point I'm not too concerned, I have a feeling we will either show up and play well, or look really bad and it's going to be a consequence of this team, rather than who we play against.

Thomas schreef:I'll go with you all the way with Spurs and Standard, Ko. I'm pretty sure I'd go to Belgium for the Standard-match, ticket or no ticket.

As for the teams from pot 3 and 4, I'd like to play Kopenhagen and Slavia Prague again. Revenge would be sweet.

Standard away won't be a nice trip, cause i think it will be a combirule like previous Belgians encounters. So just like a Dutch awaygame, only a bit further and in a new stadium (and better side). Also rather have a Spanish side or Benfica from pot 1, so that I can stroll around in the city in a t-shirt enjoying the sun, rather then having a walk with an umbrella in London.

I like Tottenham and Standard Liege away, would love a trip to London, and Slavia and Partizan home. The UEFA cup is definitely NOT shite. The competition is LOADED . Looking forward to the draw Tuesday with bated breath.

Jinne schreef: so that I can stroll around in the city in a t-shirt enjoying the sun, rather then having a walk with an umbrella in London.

lol, London rainy? and that coming from an Almere Amsterdammer I don't think I've ever been to Amsterdam without it raining at least once when I'm there. I'm hoping for Spurs away myself as even if I can't get a ticket it'll definately be on the TV here (and they're rubbish so we can beat them!)

I guess you're a Crowded House fan then. "Everywhere you go always take the weather with you". Especially now the weather is English already up there I prefer myself a bit of sunshine. Besides that I've been to London already a couple of times and never fell in love.

Jinne said:

I guess you're a Crowded House fan then. "Everywhere you go always take the weather with you". Especially now the weather is English already up there I prefer myself a bit of sunshine. Besides that I've been to London already a couple of times and never fell in love.

You know, you do have a point there, personally if I was to chose a city to live in europe, it would have to be barcelona, nice weather, on the coast, and a really cosmopolitan city.

Reminder: draw for the UEFA Cup group stage, today at 12:00 CET!

K.