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Sevilla seems on its way to the UEFA final against Middlesbrough. Nice :)

carcajou schreef:Sevilla seems on its way to the UEFA final against Middlesbrough. Nice :)

Good to see some Aussies in finals this season.

Viduka and Schwartzer (provided he makes a full recovery) in the UEFA Cup and Kewell in the FA Cup.

Viduka has been in outstanding form for Mborough for the past few months, fingers crossed it can continue through the UEFA Cup and then the WC :eusa_pray:

carcajou schreef:Sevilla seems on its way to the UEFA final against Middlesbrough. Nice :)

Yes. And Escudé played the whole game, including extra time. Good for him. I'm very pleased to hear that.

(P.S.: what about that Middlesbrough win... F*cking amazing...)

K.

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carcajou schreef:Sevilla seems on its way to the UEFA final against Middlesbrough. Nice :)

Yes. And Escudé played the whole game, including extra time. Good for him. I'm very pleased to hear that.

(P.S.: what about that Middlesbrough win... F*cking amazing...)

K.

They did it in the last round against Basle, too!! At halftime of the second leg, Middlesbrough was down 3-0 on aggregate, and came back to score four goals in the second half (the last in the 90th) to eliminate Basle. The same scenario and the same result in two successive rounds for the same team... incredible.

Both sides will get 9,200 tickets for the final in Eindhoven. That's 18,400 tickets for the 'real' fans in total. The capacity of Philips Stadium is 35,000, so only just over 50% of the tickets will go to the real supporters of the two clubs. The rest will go to sponsors, officials and a small percentage will go on sale to local (Dutch), 'neutral' football fans. The tickets for neutral Dutch fans are already sold out and - as usual - many of them will appear on eBay at absolute insane prices (and, in most cases, be sold to 'Boro fans).

K.

according to informations published in "Le Monde" today, there is a huge scandal in Italy where Juventus is accused to have given bribes to referees, for the serie A and for the UEFA games; and guess what ? the latest Ajax-Juventus game is mentioned since evidence was found that they made sure to get "a good referee for the game in Amsterdam"; we lost 0-1 ...

sordid cheaters :pukey: :redcard: :pukey:

Juventus again...

What a sh*t club that is...

First that doping scandal (which involved the CL final of 1996) and now this...

But nothing will be done about it, is my prediction!

K.

Juventus is, of course, the club I hate the most in the world.

As a sidenote, I wanted to come to Amsterdam for the Cup final. but 350 euros roundtrip, they've got to be shitting me, seriously. Are the rails made of gold or something?

That's not all. The Swedish newspapers have the last couple of days focused a lot on the fact that Moggi is said to have called both Zlatan and Cannavaro and told them to fight in their previous clubs (Ajax & Inter) to make them cheaper for Juventus.

We all remember Zlatan vs. Van der Vaart and how Zlatan acted the whole Sweden-Holland game. Could he have been acting on Moggi's request? I don't think so, 'cause he isn't stupid, but the fact that Moggi has told them to fight in their clubs doesn't make Juve's reputation any better.

Juventus-style player Lucas Castroman (Velez) has been told he can leave after fighting (verbally) with players and coaches....

Let's see where he ends up. Could be very interesting.

I like Zlatan as a player so I really hope he leaves Cheaters R Us.Although it could be for Real; still not as bad as Juventus or Roma. I despise Milan with a passion, yet find myself hoping that Juventus slip up to let said despised outfit pip the Scudetto.

I know this is off the topic, but I met someone in my community that lived in the same neighbourhood as Zlatan. Apparently, the Z-man thought he was a hard man, he had lots of fights and lost them all, went after all the girls, and they ran away...hahahaha!!!! :yes:

Juve's 'Lucky' runs out

Juventus may have managed to stay one step ahead of Milan in Serie A, but police finally caught up with their controversial director Luciano Moggi. James Richardson reports

Monday May 8, 2006

For many in Italy, 'Lucky' Luciano Moggi is a living embodiment of Serie A sleaze.
A former railway stationmaster from Tuscany, his fine nose for a player, and ever burgeoning network of allies, has seen him rise over four decades from humble scout to the most influential man and inventive in the game.
In Naples, it was Moggi who, according to the then Napoli owner Corrado Ferlaino, supplied Maradona with his prosthetic dummy penis to bypass post-game urine tests.

At Torino, it was Moggi who allegedly provided female escorts for referees ahead of the club's Uefa Cup fixtures.
For the last 12 years, he has been running Juventus by fair means and, popular wisdom has it, foul - it is widely believed that their incredible record is largely thanks to Moggi's unholy grip on the referees.
Amazingly, until now none of these accusations have ever dented Lucky's position in the game.
Last week that all changed with the publication of transcripts from police in Turin of Moggi's phone calls with, among others, Antonio Giraudo (the Juve director recently acquitted of doping charges) and Pierluigi Pairetto, the Italian FA's head of refereeing selection.
This material was vague if compromising - particularly Pairetto's instructions to a referee selected for a Juve game that "a good ref will see every that happens there ... and even what doesn't ..." - but it was soon overshadowed by the news that two more Italian police forces are also running investigations on Moggi.
One of these is in connection with an illegal gambling and match-fixing ring in southern Italy.
The other concerns the activities of Moggi's son, Alessandro, who through his management agency GEA handles the affairs of over 200 Serie A footballers and managers.
As noted following Juve's spectacular win at Siena last week, the potential for a conflict of interest when these players and managers face Moggi senior's side is immense.
A charge of illegal competition through threats and violence now awaits Moggis junior and senior, and other GEA directors. Moggi senior also faces a criminal conspiracy charge from the gambling ring inquiry.
They haven't fingered him for the Spurs food poisoning (yet), but since investigators in Naples have yet to make public a year's worth of Moggi phone taps from the gambling case, it is clear that we are merely looking at the tip of an iceberg.
So far, five referees and an Italian FA vice-president have been unofficially suspended, while Pairetto has been removed from the Uefa referee's committee. More names will surely follow, but for Italian fans the one that really counts is Moggi.
For over a decade he has occupied a unique role in contemporary Italian myth; the Mr Big behind everything and everyone, denying other clubs their just rewards.
Now that this theory is apparently being borne out by hard evidence, many fans are delighted to finally witness his downfall.
One banner this Sunday at (the now safe from relegation) Ascoli summed things up nicely: "Ascoli in Serie A, Moggi in jail = God Exists!"
A jail term is hard to imagine for a man with as many friends as he has, and nothing - certainly not match-fixing - has yet been proved against Lucky Luciano.
Still, at the very least his future in football looks irrevocably compromised.
On Sunday, he took his usual seat at the Stadio delle Alpi alongside Giraudo and the other member of Juve's management trinity, former Italy star Roberto Bettaga.
Come the final whistle, while Bettega burst into floods of tears, Moggi sped off without comment in a Fiat Multipla (with a disabled sticker in the back for easy parking, naturally).
It was subsequently made clear by the Agnelli family, the club's traditional backers, that both he and Giraudo will be removed from Juve's line-up as the club tries to distance itself from the scandal.
None of which will come as much consolation to Juve's players. Already long accustomed to jeers of "cheats" and "thieves" wherever they play, they now face seeing their latest campaign besmirched by the Moggi scandal.
And - allegations aside - it has been a remarkable campaign. Their recent slump and European collapse may have dimmed the memories, but this is a club that began the year in form unmatched anywhere in the history of the Italian league.

from "the guardian"

Going down to Paris for Champions League Final next week and received an e-mail from my hotel about my booking which I made 2 months ago. Seems the hotel has severe plumbing problems and that 10 of the rooms might be unavailable and could I take alternative days. Like - eh helloooooo, do you think I was born yeaterday Mr Hotelowner :twisted:

It appears that the same e-mail from different hotels has been sent to quite a few people. So as we have quite a few Parisians on board here, sorry to hear of your plumbing problems.

This angers me so much as these same hotels are still advertising rooms for these nights at 3 times what I paid. Typical of another rip-off for football fans

Maybe Philippe will put you up !!!!!!

Over Pasanens Head schreef:Maybe Philippe will put you up !!!!!!

And I am sure he would as well.

I phoned the hotrel and explained to them in a very nice manner

:D that if my room was not available when I arrived then they could take me to the room which they had allocated to me and let me see how bad these plumbing problems were. If I found that the room was occupied by another person then I was going to take their belongings and toss them out of the window. I then told them that I had already been in communication with the Paris Tourist board and forwarded them the mail and explained what was going on. I also said that if the room was not available then the mail was being forwarded to national newspapers.

Funnily after all that they said that a room would be available for me.

:xyxthumbs:

jamcocteau schreef:

Over Pasanens Head schreef:Maybe Philippe will put you up !!!!!!

And I am sure he would as well.

I phoned the hotrel and explained to them in a very nice manner

:D that if my room was not available when I arrived then they could take me to the room which they had allocated to me and let me see how bad these plumbing problems were. If I found that the room was occupied by another person then I was going to take their belongings and toss them out of the window. I then told them that I had already been in communication with the Paris Tourist board and forwarded them the mail and explained what was going on. I also said that if the room was not available then the mail was being forwarded to national newspapers.

Funnily after all that they said that a room would be available for me.

:xyxthumbs:

So, let me sum it up..... French people surrendered... Again?

It's turning into a very used (yet funny ;) ) joke.

carcajou schreef:

jamcocteau schreef:

Over Pasanens Head schreef:
So, let me sum it up..... French people surrendered... Again?

It's turning into a very used (yet funny ;) ) joke.

Mate, that thought never crossed my mind as I was just blazing mad about the whole incident - my booking was made 8 weeks ago for the hotel and they accepted it. Now because they think they can make extra money they try to pull this little stunt - as a consumer I am quite clued up on consumer law and in fact if I really wanted them to suffer I would have demanded they put me up in another hotel of similar quality or better which is my right as they accepted the booking. They are just acting like a bunch of greedy pratts. And the fact that other people have received similar e-mails from other hotels made me even more annoyed.

How is your plumbing by the way - no problems I hope :xyxthumbs:

Fancy meeting for a beer on Tuesday evening - I will be near St Michel

jamcocteau schreef:

Over Pasanens Head schreef:
So, let me sum it up..... French people surrendered... Again?

It's turning into a very used (yet funny ;) ) joke.

Mate, that thought never crossed my mind as I was just blazing mad about the whole incident

Oh don't worry, I'm just a glutton for self deprecating humor ;)

jamcocteau schreef: Fancy meeting for a beer on Tuesday evening - I will be near St Michel

Sure. Tell me more about the exact time and location and I'll be there.

Watched a good game yesterday as AS Roma destroyed Lyon (as well as Chivu's nose). These romans can play top class football. :xyxthumbs:

Valencia-Inter was more fun.

Our old pal Zlatan was even in the middle of things. :worshippy:

philippe schreef:Watched a good game yesterday as AS Roma destroyed Lyon (as well as Chivu's nose). These romans can play top class football. :xyxthumbs:

Roma always fascinate me. They've had a few wonderful teams over the years and sometimes they really play football that's 'un-Italian' and very entertaining. But they've also had some of the most negative and ugly teams I've ever seen.

The team they brought to Amsterdam in late 2002 must have been the most terrible football team I've ever watched. They played with zero strikers at the time: the most forward man was Totti, a 'number 10'. Absolutely no intention to even cross the middle line.

K.

always good fun when inter gets the sack :eusa_dance:

Will watch Arsenal beat the lightbulbers tonight. Don't these 2 teams do wonders for producing home players!!! Arsenal have one englishman Walcott a 17 year old who will sit on their bench and he cost £17m and PSV will probably have 1 Dutchman Cocu.(They do have 3/4 other dutch in their squad whereas Arsenal have only one other englishman)

PSV are bound to be negative and Arsenal do struggle against team that play like that. The first game was the bore of the year.


Watched the end of Valencia game. They will be fined but I would kick them out of the competition.To replace them I would draw one of the current round losers from a hat.

SPL schreef:Watched the end of Valencia game. They will be fined but I would kick them out of the competition.To replace them I would draw one of the current round losers from a hat.

Why on earth would you choose such a drastic measure when it was probably Inter who instigated the actual fighting. Burdisso was already trying to have a go at Marchena, remember?

They should ban Navarro for about 10 games. And then punish Burdisso, Marchena, Figo, Cambiasso, Materazzi, Cruz and Cordoba as well.