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In a similar vein, what happens to the Unofficial World Cup if a country falls apart? Imagine the USSR or Czechoslovakia holding the cup in the early 90s...

We could put an end to the Unofficial World Cup by pulling the plug on The Netherlands before Berts Boys get a chance to pass it on.

2009-2010

11/07/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Vorskla Poltava: 0-0 (a.e.t., Dynamo win penalty shoot-out: 4-2)
18/07/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Chornomorets Odessa: 5-0
25/07/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Tavriya Simferopol: 6-0
01/08/09: FC Kryvbas Kryvyi Rih - FC Dynamo Kyiv: 1-3
08/08/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - Illichivets Mariupol: 3-1
15/08/09: Arsenal Kyiv - FC Dynamo Kyiv: 1-2
23/08/09: FC Vorskla Poltava - FC Dynamo Kyiv: 1-1
31/08/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Metalurh Donetsk: 3-1
12/09/09: Metalist Kharkiv - FC Dynamo Kyiv: 0-1
16/09/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Rubin Kazan: 3-1
20/09/09: Metalist Kharkiv - FC Dynamo Kyiv: 1-2
25/09/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Zorya Luhansk: 2-0
29/09/09: FC Barcelona - FC Dynamo Kyiv: 2-0
03/10/09: FC Barcelona - UD Almería: 1-0
17/10/09: Valencia CF - FC Barcelona

K.

Imagine the Cup residing in Prague on the 22th of October. It is possible!

Kowalczyk schreef:2009-2010

11/07/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Vorskla Poltava: 0-0 (a.e.t., Dynamo win penalty shoot-out: 4-2)
18/07/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Chornomorets Odessa: 5-0
25/07/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Tavriya Simferopol: 6-0
01/08/09: FC Kryvbas Kryvyi Rih - FC Dynamo Kyiv: 1-3
08/08/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - Illichivets Mariupol: 3-1
15/08/09: Arsenal Kyiv - FC Dynamo Kyiv: 1-2
23/08/09: FC Vorskla Poltava - FC Dynamo Kyiv: 1-1
31/08/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Metalurh Donetsk: 3-1
12/09/09: Metalist Kharkiv - FC Dynamo Kyiv: 0-1
16/09/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Rubin Kazan: 3-1
20/09/09: Metalist Kharkiv - FC Dynamo Kyiv: 1-2
25/09/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Zorya Luhansk: 2-0
29/09/09: FC Barcelona - FC Dynamo Kyiv: 2-0
03/10/09: FC Barcelona - UD Almería: 1-0
17/10/09: Valencia CF - FC Barcelona

K.

Our esteemed match tracker is on holiday, so here is the update:
Valencia-Barcelona: 0-0 so the cup stays at Estadio Camp Nou.
Next up, Champions League: Barcelona vs. FK Rubin Kazan, October 20 so there is a chance that the cup could be traveling to Russia on Wednesday!!

And it's off to Russia! Barcelona - Rubin Kazan 1-2

Barcelona drop the match to Rubin Kazan 1-2. Helmond Cup is going to Russia. This is probably the shortest time that the cup has stayed in a country!!! Next up for Rubin Kazan are several league matches before a home rematch with Barcelona on November 4.

Russia!

2009-2010

11/07/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Vorskla Poltava: 0-0 (a.e.t., Dynamo win penalty shoot-out: 4-2)
18/07/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Chornomorets Odessa: 5-0
25/07/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Tavriya Simferopol: 6-0
01/08/09: FC Kryvbas Kryvyi Rih - FC Dynamo Kyiv: 1-3
08/08/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - Illichivets Mariupol: 3-1
15/08/09: Arsenal Kyiv - FC Dynamo Kyiv: 1-2
23/08/09: FC Vorskla Poltava - FC Dynamo Kyiv: 1-1
31/08/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Metalurh Donetsk: 3-1
12/09/09: Metalist Kharkiv - FC Dynamo Kyiv: 0-1
16/09/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Rubin Kazan: 3-1
20/09/09: Metalist Kharkiv - FC Dynamo Kyiv: 1-2
25/09/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Zorya Luhansk: 2-0
29/09/09: FC Barcelona - FC Dynamo Kyiv: 2-0
03/10/09: FC Barcelona - UD Almería: 1-0
17/10/09: Valencia CF - FC Barcelona: 0-0
20/10/09: FC Barcelona - FC Rubin Kazan: 1-2
25/10/09: SKA Rostov-na-Donu - FC Rubin Kazan

K.

What is Bert doing there?

How did the match Rostov - Rubin Kazan ended? Some followers of the Russian competition here?

beelzebub schreef:How did the match Rostov - Rubin Kazan ended? Some followers of the Russian competition here?

Rostov - Rubin 1:2.

2009-2010

11/07/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Vorskla Poltava: 0-0 (a.e.t., Dynamo win penalty shoot-out: 4-2)
18/07/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Chornomorets Odessa: 5-0
25/07/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Tavriya Simferopol: 6-0
01/08/09: FC Kryvbas Kryvyi Rih - FC Dynamo Kyiv: 1-3
08/08/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - Illichivets Mariupol: 3-1
15/08/09: Arsenal Kyiv - FC Dynamo Kyiv: 1-2
23/08/09: FC Vorskla Poltava - FC Dynamo Kyiv: 1-1
31/08/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Metalurh Donetsk: 3-1
12/09/09: Metalist Kharkiv - FC Dynamo Kyiv: 0-1
16/09/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Rubin Kazan: 3-1
20/09/09: Metalist Kharkiv - FC Dynamo Kyiv: 1-2
25/09/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Zorya Luhansk: 2-0
29/09/09: FC Barcelona - FC Dynamo Kyiv: 2-0
03/10/09: FC Barcelona - UD Almería: 1-0
17/10/09: Valencia CF - FC Barcelona: 0-0
20/10/09: FC Barcelona - FC Rubin Kazan: 1-2
25/10/09: SKA Rostov-na-Donu - FC Rubin Kazan: 1-2
30/10/09: FC Rubin Kazan - FC Krylia Sovetov Samara

K.

Back to Spain on Wednesday...?

2009-2010

11/07/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Vorskla Poltava: 0-0 (a.e.t., Dynamo win penalty shoot-out: 4-2)
18/07/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Chornomorets Odessa: 5-0
25/07/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Tavriya Simferopol: 6-0
01/08/09: FC Kryvbas Kryvyi Rih - FC Dynamo Kyiv: 1-3
08/08/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - Illichivets Mariupol: 3-1
15/08/09: Arsenal Kyiv - FC Dynamo Kyiv: 1-2
23/08/09: FC Vorskla Poltava - FC Dynamo Kyiv: 1-1
31/08/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Metalurh Donetsk: 3-1
12/09/09: Metalist Kharkiv - FC Dynamo Kyiv: 0-1
16/09/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Rubin Kazan: 3-1
20/09/09: Metalist Kharkiv - FC Dynamo Kyiv: 1-2
25/09/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Zorya Luhansk: 2-0
29/09/09: FC Barcelona - FC Dynamo Kyiv: 2-0
03/10/09: FC Barcelona - UD Almería: 1-0
17/10/09: Valencia CF - FC Barcelona: 0-0
20/10/09: FC Barcelona - FC Rubin Kazan: 1-2
25/10/09: SKA Rostov-na-Donu - FC Rubin Kazan: 1-2
30/10/09: FC Rubin Kazan - FC Krylia Sovetov Samara: 4-1
04/11/09: FC Rubin Kazan - FC Barcelona

K.

Just watched their goals on eurogoals . They have 3 league games to go and are top so lets hope they do not lose to a Russian team .

Entertaining match right now. Rubin Kazan is trying to press Barca without much success. I do like their Kits and if we ever change team colors, maroon and gold are the way to go!!

Cup stays in Russia...

2009-2010

11/07/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Vorskla Poltava: 0-0 (a.e.t., Dynamo win penalty shoot-out: 4-2)
18/07/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Chornomorets Odessa: 5-0
25/07/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Tavriya Simferopol: 6-0
01/08/09: FC Kryvbas Kryvyi Rih - FC Dynamo Kyiv: 1-3
08/08/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - Illichivets Mariupol: 3-1
15/08/09: Arsenal Kyiv - FC Dynamo Kyiv: 1-2
23/08/09: FC Vorskla Poltava - FC Dynamo Kyiv: 1-1
31/08/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Metalurh Donetsk: 3-1
12/09/09: Metalist Kharkiv - FC Dynamo Kyiv: 0-1
16/09/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Rubin Kazan: 3-1
20/09/09: Metalist Kharkiv - FC Dynamo Kyiv: 1-2
25/09/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Zorya Luhansk: 2-0
29/09/09: FC Barcelona - FC Dynamo Kyiv: 2-0
03/10/09: FC Barcelona - UD Almería: 1-0
17/10/09: Valencia CF - FC Barcelona: 0-0
20/10/09: FC Barcelona - FC Rubin Kazan: 1-2
25/10/09: SKA Rostov-na-Donu - FC Rubin Kazan: 1-2
30/10/09: FC Rubin Kazan - FC Krylia Sovetov Samara: 4-1
04/11/09: FC Rubin Kazan - FC Barcelona: 0-0
08/11/09: CSKA Moskva - FC Rubin Kazan

K.

2009-2010

11/07/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Vorskla Poltava: 0-0 (a.e.t., Dynamo win penalty shoot-out: 4-2)
18/07/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Chornomorets Odessa: 5-0
25/07/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Tavriya Simferopol: 6-0
01/08/09: FC Kryvbas Kryvyi Rih - FC Dynamo Kyiv: 1-3
08/08/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - Illichivets Mariupol: 3-1
15/08/09: Arsenal Kyiv - FC Dynamo Kyiv: 1-2
23/08/09: FC Vorskla Poltava - FC Dynamo Kyiv: 1-1
31/08/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Metalurh Donetsk: 3-1
12/09/09: Metalist Kharkiv - FC Dynamo Kyiv: 0-1
16/09/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Rubin Kazan: 3-1
20/09/09: Metalist Kharkiv - FC Dynamo Kyiv: 1-2
25/09/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Zorya Luhansk: 2-0
29/09/09: FC Barcelona - FC Dynamo Kyiv: 2-0
03/10/09: FC Barcelona - UD Almería: 1-0
17/10/09: Valencia CF - FC Barcelona: 0-0
20/10/09: FC Barcelona - FC Rubin Kazan: 1-2
25/10/09: SKA Rostov-na-Donu - FC Rubin Kazan: 1-2
30/10/09: FC Rubin Kazan - FC Krylia Sovetov Samara: 4-1
04/11/09: FC Rubin Kazan - FC Barcelona: 0-0
08/11/09: CSKA Moskva - FC Rubin Kazan: 0-2
21/11/09: FC Rubin Kazan - FC Zenit St. Petersburg

K.

Helmond Cup holders FC Rubin Kazan won the Russian league championship today!

And, of course, they hold on to the Helmond Cup; Champions League fixture against former Helmond Cup holders Dynamo Kyiv coming up!

2009-2010

11/07/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Vorskla Poltava: 0-0 (a.e.t., Dynamo win penalty shoot-out: 4-2)
18/07/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Chornomorets Odessa: 5-0
25/07/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Tavriya Simferopol: 6-0
01/08/09: FC Kryvbas Kryvyi Rih - FC Dynamo Kyiv: 1-3
08/08/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - Illichivets Mariupol: 3-1
15/08/09: Arsenal Kyiv - FC Dynamo Kyiv: 1-2
23/08/09: FC Vorskla Poltava - FC Dynamo Kyiv: 1-1
31/08/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Metalurh Donetsk: 3-1
12/09/09: Metalist Kharkiv - FC Dynamo Kyiv: 0-1
16/09/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Rubin Kazan: 3-1
20/09/09: Metalist Kharkiv - FC Dynamo Kyiv: 1-2
25/09/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Zorya Luhansk: 2-0
29/09/09: FC Barcelona - FC Dynamo Kyiv: 2-0
03/10/09: FC Barcelona - UD Almería: 1-0
17/10/09: Valencia CF - FC Barcelona: 0-0
20/10/09: FC Barcelona - FC Rubin Kazan: 1-2
25/10/09: SKA Rostov-na-Donu - FC Rubin Kazan: 1-2
30/10/09: FC Rubin Kazan - FC Krylia Sovetov Samara: 4-1
04/11/09: FC Rubin Kazan - FC Barcelona: 0-0
08/11/09: CSKA Moskva - FC Rubin Kazan: 0-2
21/11/09: FC Rubin Kazan - FC Zenit St. Petersburg: 0-0
24/11/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Rubin Kazan

K.

Rubin Kazan has to play against Dinamo Kiev on tuesday for the Champions League first.

Hoeladans schreef:Rubin Kazan has to play against Dinamo Kiev on tuesday for the Champions League first.

Yes, you're right. Thanks for the info. Corrected!

K.

Kowalczyk schreef:Which means that, if FC Kuban Krasnodar win, a long winter break will start for the Helmond Cup. The next Helmond Cup fixture would, in that case, be the first official Kuban Krasnodar match in the new Russian season (whenever that starts).

In that case, the Helmond cup will be relegated to the Russian first division together with Krasnodar.

Lets hope they lose to Kiev as I have a feeling they will probably lose their last league game as they have nothing to play for. I am not sure they know about the Helmond Cup !!!!
Do not want to see the cup stuck in lower Russian league for next year .

SPL schreef:Lets hope they lose to Kiev as I have a feeling they will probably lose their last league game as they have nothing to play for. I am not sure they know about the Helmond Cup !!!! Do not want to see the cup stuck in lower Russian league for next year .

The Russian second division would be very 'cult' with all the funny names and stuff, but the problem is: it's never gonna get out of there, unless the second division champions happen to have it at season's end and take it back up to the premier division. Volendam took it out of the Dutch First Division once, but remember: the champions do not necessarily possess the cup on the last matchday. So perhaps it's better if it doesn't go down.

Weird league fixture, by the way: Rubin Kazan (who are champions already) versus Krasnodar (who are already sure to go down).

K.

Kowalczyk schreef:Helmond Cup holders FC Rubin Kazan won the Russian league championship today!

And, of course, they hold on to the Helmond Cup; Champions League fixture against former Helmond Cup holders Dynamo Kyiv coming up!

2009-2010

11/07/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Vorskla Poltava: 0-0 (a.e.t., Dynamo win penalty shoot-out: 4-2)
18/07/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Chornomorets Odessa: 5-0
25/07/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Tavriya Simferopol: 6-0
01/08/09: FC Kryvbas Kryvyi Rih - FC Dynamo Kyiv: 1-3
08/08/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - Illichivets Mariupol: 3-1
15/08/09: Arsenal Kyiv - FC Dynamo Kyiv: 1-2
23/08/09: FC Vorskla Poltava - FC Dynamo Kyiv: 1-1
31/08/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Metalurh Donetsk: 3-1
12/09/09: Metalist Kharkiv - FC Dynamo Kyiv: 0-1
16/09/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Rubin Kazan: 3-1
20/09/09: Metalist Kharkiv - FC Dynamo Kyiv: 1-2
25/09/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Zorya Luhansk: 2-0
29/09/09: FC Barcelona - FC Dynamo Kyiv: 2-0
03/10/09: FC Barcelona - UD Almería: 1-0
17/10/09: Valencia CF - FC Barcelona: 0-0
20/10/09: FC Barcelona - FC Rubin Kazan: 1-2
25/10/09: SKA Rostov-na-Donu - FC Rubin Kazan: 1-2
30/10/09: FC Rubin Kazan - FC Krylia Sovetov Samara: 4-1
04/11/09: FC Rubin Kazan - FC Barcelona: 0-0
08/11/09: CSKA Moskva - FC Rubin Kazan: 0-2
21/11/09: FC Rubin Kazan - FC Zenit St. Petersburg: 0-0
24/11/09: FC Dynamo Kyiv - FC Rubin Kazan

K.

Rubin playing at home against Dynamo. They won't lose this game.

You never know where the cup will end up when the famous Dutch magicians family Kazan takes care of it. So be afraid....

0-0 full time. Stays in Russsia for a while longer. Good to see Ajax icon Marco Van Basten doing the half time comentary!