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Geplaatst: **zo jul 17, 2005 7:06 am**

Rockstar INXS....man you must be desperate....you should check out the new channel called Paint Drying. Oh, also look for the Watching Grass Grow channel.

Geplaatst: **zo jul 17, 2005 8:36 am**

ajaxshark schreef:The two you named are about it.

I was thinking of Pink Floyd, who had Syd Barrett, then Roger Waters and then David Gilmour as their frontman, but in their case the 'new frontmen' were already in the band.

K.

Geplaatst: **zo jul 17, 2005 8:53 am**

ajaxshark schreef:Rockstar INXS....man you must be desperate....

Dont blame me...its the off season ;)

ajaxshark schreef:you should check out the new channel called Paint Drying. Oh, also look for the Watching Grass Grow channel.

Thanks for the tip, but season 3 of Paint drying hasnt been as good as season 1 or 2, and watching grass grow got boring once the original cast got replaced. :xyxthumbs:

For what its worth, was never a huge fan of INXS (apart from maybe the kick album), but Michael H was bigger than the band. I think the word is 'irreplaceable'.

Geplaatst: **ma jul 18, 2005 9:53 pm**

Funny stuff, it is the off season...Rage Against the Machine was another that tried to move on...didn't quite work out though.

Geplaatst: **di jul 19, 2005 3:40 am**

ajaxshark schreef:Funny stuff, it is the off season...Rage Against the Machine was another that tried to move on...didn't quite work out though.

Didn't they add Chris Cornell and become Audioslave?

Also, New Order (Joy Division after their frontman left/killed himself) was ok.

Geplaatst: **di jul 19, 2005 5:24 am**

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Didn't they add Chris Cornell and become Audioslave?

Also, New Order (Joy Division after their frontman left/killed himself) was ok.[/quote]

They did change their name, didn't they!?! Man, you would of thought that would have worked w/ Cornell. Damn, they're crap too!

Geplaatst: **di jul 19, 2005 5:26 am**

Man, I need to learn to quote right.

Geplaatst: **di jul 19, 2005 8:30 am**

Kowalczyk schreef:
ajaxshark schreef:The two you named are about it.
I was thinking of Pink Floyd, who had Syd Barrett, then Roger Waters and then David Gilmour as their frontman, but in their case the 'new frontmen' were already in the band.

K.

What about Marillion, Faith No More, Genesis? All had their frontman replaced but were still majorly successful.

Geplaatst: **di jul 19, 2005 10:48 am**

Raymon schreef:What about Marillion, Faith No More, Genesis? All had their frontman replaced but were still majorly successful.

Good point. Faith No More were one of my fav bands. How did I forget that???

Actually, I still think that FNM had a huge influence on a lot of todays bands. All those crap pretenders (Limp Biscut I am looking in your direction) have FNM to thank for their (limited) success. FNM were probably one of the first to mix Funk/Rap/Metal/Rock into one sound (well at least the first to do it well).

Damn...think its time to pull out 'angel dust' again.

Geplaatst: **wo jul 20, 2005 4:24 am**

Maybe because i'm american and heavily influenced by radio play, but i would have to disagree. Marillion, i've never even heard of those cats from day one. Genesis after Collins...crap. Early Faith No More...good. Later...crap. I'm really not all that hardcore into music though, so what do i know.

Geplaatst: **do jul 21, 2005 12:35 pm**

ajaxshark schreef:Maybe because i'm american and heavily influenced by radio play, but i would have to disagree. Marillion, i've never even heard of those cats from day one. Genesis after Collins...crap. Early Faith No More...good. Later...crap. I'm really not all that hardcore into music though, so what do i know.

I think it is pre-Collins Genesis (when Peter Gabriel was the lead singer) that people are referring to. They were, IMO, better than when Collins fronted them, although also quite good with Collins as a frontman.

Geplaatst: **do jul 21, 2005 6:45 pm**

Never was a big Genesis fan. The period of 68-75 was dominated by The Who, The Kinks, Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd in my eyes. What music to grow up on!!Re: Genesis, I lost all interest once Peter Gabriel left.Like Steve Hackett as a solo artist though.

Geplaatst: **vr jul 22, 2005 1:12 pm**

Blind3 schreef:Never was a big Genesis fan. The period of 68-75 was dominated by The Who, The Kinks, Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd in my eyes. What music to grow up on!!Re: Genesis, I lost all interest once Peter Gabriel left.Like Steve Hackett as a solo artist though.

The best part of Genesis is when they split up and created Mike & the Mechanics!! :headbang: :D :D

I saw The Who in Houston in '88 (I think). They were playing a tour date in the Astrodome. The opening acts were The Fabulous Thunderbirds and Stevie Ray Vaughn. I have to say that, as good as The Who was, Stevie Ray was much, much better. The crowd loved him so much that his manager made him play an (unplanned) encore. He played "Voodoo Chile." Man, that was awesome. Second best show I've ever been to, after Gwar at the Unicorn in '90. But that's another story.

RIP SRV. :sad:

Geplaatst: **vr jul 22, 2005 1:20 pm**

Kinks, Who, Small Faces, Pretty Things, northern soul, The Jam, Dexy's Midnight Runners, Style Council, The Specials, Oasis, The Specials... yeah.

K.

Geplaatst: **vr jul 22, 2005 1:26 pm**

Kowalczyk schreef:Kinks, Who, Small Faces, Pretty Things, northern soul, The Jam, Dexy's Midnight Runners, Style Council, The Specials, Oasis, The Specials... yeah.

K.

Yeah indeed! :headbang:

And Ko, what have you done to me man?! I can't stop listening to Sufjan Stevens! This guy is a bloody genius!

Geplaatst: **za jul 23, 2005 3:54 am**

With the exception of Tuesday's Ear-bleedathon ,a.k.a. OzzFest, and The Kaiser Chiefs-Cribs-Redwall show(AWESOME times 3) Wednesday, I too have had The Specials on HEAVY ROTATION this week.I think the heat (95+ all week) and the beat naturally go together.

Agree about SRV's "Voodoo Chile" .Coming damn close to his killer rendition was Ben Harper playing amazing versions of "Voodoo Chile" and "All Along The Watchtower" when he opened for Dave Matthews Band several years ago.He gave SRV a run for his money.Ben Harper =not to be missed.

Geplaatst: **za jul 23, 2005 8:03 am**

Raymon schreef: And Ko, what have you done to me man?! I can't stop listening to Sufjan Stevens! This guy is a bloody genius!

He is also very ambitious...Sufjan plans to release an album for every state in America...after this one only about 50 to go. I wish him all the best.

He is extremely talented though.

Geplaatst: **zo jul 24, 2005 2:49 am**

Man, you guys weren't kidding with the name of this thread!!! I'm completely out of your league on this topic. Christ, I forgot Gabriel was even in Genesis and I still think Jay-Z is a genius. I'll just read and stick to my soccer!!! :X

Geplaatst: **zo jul 24, 2005 2:51 am**

One more question though...Who the hell is Sufjan Stevens...is he related to Cat? :xyxthumbs:

Geplaatst: **wo jul 27, 2005 4:47 pm**

Long live Australia! :xyxthumbs:

This is from DotMusic...

Billy smashes Oz
(Wednesday July 27, 2005 09:52 AM)

Billy Corgan is reported to have stormed off-stage at a show in Australia, after fans repeatedly asked for Smashing Pumpkins songs. Corgan, who recently announced plans to reform the Pumpkins, was playing a gig in Melbourne when the incident happened.

According to reports from Australia, one fan shouted from the stage "play some Pumpkins", prompting Corgan to reply: "Can I live my life for today?"

Later in the show, another punter demanded "we want rock", with an increasingly infuriated Billy suggesting the fan ask for his money back. Towards the end of the concert, Corgan snapped at another demand for Pumpkins material, mumbled "f*ck this" and walked-off stage.

Billy Corgan finishes his Australian tour on Friday in Brisbane. In June, he placed a full-page ad in a Chicago newspaper confirming his desire to resurrect the Smashing Pumpkins, revealing: "I want my band back and my songs and my dreams".

Good riddance. That new album is a 100% stinker. An absolute heap of shit. And his Paradiso gig here in Amsterdam was also a joke. Absolutely terrible. Over here he didn't freak out at the audience but at his equipment, for refusing to do what he wanted it to do. This dude has seriously lost the plot. I hope he won't reform the Smashing Pumpkins (one of the most exciting rock bands of the 1990s -- until 1996). It can only be a disaster.

K.

Geplaatst: **wo jul 27, 2005 9:25 pm**

Kowalczyk schreef:Long live Australia! :xyxthumbs:

This is from DotMusic...

Billy smashes Oz
(Wednesday July 27, 2005 09:52 AM)

Billy Corgan is reported to have stormed off-stage at a show in Australia, after fans repeatedly asked for Smashing Pumpkins songs. Corgan, who recently announced plans to reform the Pumpkins, was playing a gig in Melbourne when the incident happened.

According to reports from Australia, one fan shouted from the stage "play some Pumpkins", prompting Corgan to reply: "Can I live my life for today?"

Later in the show, another punter demanded "we want rock", with an increasingly infuriated Billy suggesting the fan ask for his money back. Towards the end of the concert, Corgan snapped at another demand for Pumpkins material, mumbled "f*ck this" and walked-off stage.

Billy Corgan finishes his Australian tour on Friday in Brisbane. In June, he placed a full-page ad in a Chicago newspaper confirming his desire to resurrect the Smashing Pumpkins, revealing: "I want my band back and my songs and my dreams".
Good riddance. That new album is a 100% stinker. An absolute heap of shit. And his Paradiso gig here in Amsterdam was also a joke. Absolutely terrible. Over here he didn't freak out at the audience but at his equipment, for refusing to do what he wanted it to do. This dude has seriously lost the plot. I hope he won't reform the Smashing Pumpkins (one of the most exciting rock bands of the 1990s -- until 1996). It can only be a disaster.

K.

Yeah, but Siamese Dream is absolutely one of the best albums ever made. Ever.

Geplaatst: **wo jul 27, 2005 10:28 pm**

It's mostly filler, if you ask me.

I sold it on Koninginnedag for 10 guilders two months after I bought it.

Geplaatst: **do jul 28, 2005 12:56 am**

Kowalczyk schreef:Long live Australia! :xyxthumbs:

This is from DotMusic...

Billy smashes Oz
(Wednesday July 27, 2005 09:52 AM)

Billy Corgan is reported to have stormed off-stage at a show in Australia, after fans repeatedly asked for Smashing Pumpkins songs. Corgan, who recently announced plans to reform the Pumpkins, was playing a gig in Melbourne when the incident happened.

According to reports from Australia, one fan shouted from the stage "play some Pumpkins", prompting Corgan to reply: "Can I live my life for today?"

Later in the show, another punter demanded "we want rock", with an increasingly infuriated Billy suggesting the fan ask for his money back. Towards the end of the concert, Corgan snapped at another demand for Pumpkins material, mumbled "f*ck this" and walked-off stage.

Billy Corgan finishes his Australian tour on Friday in Brisbane. In June, he placed a full-page ad in a Chicago newspaper confirming his desire to resurrect the Smashing Pumpkins, revealing: "I want my band back and my songs and my dreams".
Good riddance. That new album is a 100% stinker. An absolute heap of shit. And his Paradiso gig here in Amsterdam was also a joke. Absolutely terrible. Over here he didn't freak out at the audience but at his equipment, for refusing to do what he wanted it to do. This dude has seriously lost the plot. I hope he won't reform the Smashing Pumpkins (one of the most exciting rock bands of the 1990s -- until 1996). It can only be a disaster.

K.

Hahaha...oh we can piss off artists. We do tell it like it is.

This reminds me of when I saw Ryan Adams a few years ago at the Forum in Melbourne. Some guy yells out 'Play Summer of 69'. Mr Adams tries to have the guy removed. Was pretty funny. Although with Ryan you can never tell if he's really pissed off or just being "funny". If he's defensive about it, why did he use the name Ryan Adams, when hes real name is DAVID Ryan Adams???

Actually saw him play last night in Melbourne again. After a few songs to get going, he rocked. He even hung it on himself quite a few times by pretending to be a rock journo and saying 'warning mr adams is known to be quite volatile!'. I am sure he didn't mean anything by it Ko ;)

Slightly off he's rocker, but always entertaining.

Geplaatst: **do jul 28, 2005 6:56 am**

aveslacker schreef:Yeah, but Siamese Dream is absolutely one of the best albums ever made. Ever.

'Best Album Ever' is a really, really big claim. But it's definitely one of the best rock albums of the 1990s and probably top 50 material for the 'Best Rock Albums Ever'.

I loved Gish almost as much. Mellon Collie should not have been a double album: you can compile one brilliant cd out of the two, the rest is filler.

The last two albums (Adore and the one that, I think, is called Machina) are shit, so the split came at the right moment.

K.

Geplaatst: **do jul 28, 2005 10:17 am**

Kowalczyk schreef:I loved Gish almost as much. Mellon Collie should not have been a double album: you can compile one brilliant cd out of the two, the rest is filler.K.

You know Ko, that brings up a good point. Double albums. If they took off the 4 or 5 (or more) shite or boring songs, nearly each one of them would be a classic as a single album.

Having said that, in these days of mp3 players you can just leave off the ones you dont like, so i guess it doesn't matter...much like the whole comment i just made ;)

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