Former Ajax Players

[Philippe]

1-cheating is a rule
2-defending is the main idea; you mention an higher number of scored goals, but if you talk with Italian fans after a 4-3 victory, they will tell you it was a terrible game
3-doping : what happened with juventus ? the investigators recently said they should give back all the trophies they stole
4- fascists fans : only here and there, but still too many
5- berlusconi

just remember Bergkamp : when he was in Italy, he had a very bad reputation there, they said he was finished, and then he went to Arenal ...

I hate the way they play football, and the way they think football, catenaccio and all.

[jakobg]

Okay mate, everyone can have their own opinion, but only one of those things you mention is actually about the football.

What the fans think, the doping shit, fascist fans and Berlusconi doesn't really reflect the level of the football played over there. I'm not defending Italy or what has happened over there, but I disagree with you when you say the league is overrated.

By the way: Zlatan was handed a three game suspension after his behaviour in the Inter game yesterday. That means he will miss the important game against Milan. Tough one for Juventus. Stupid behaviour from Zlatan.

[carcajou]

Okay mate, everyone can have their own opinion, but only one of those things you mention is actually about the football.

What the fans think, the doping shit, fascist fans and Berlusconi doesn't really reflect the level of the football played over there. I'm not defending Italy or what has happened over there, but I disagree with you when you say the league is overrated.

By the way: Zlatan was handed a three game suspension after his behaviour in the Inter game yesterday. That means he will miss the important game against Milan. Tough one for Juventus. Stupid behaviour from Zlatan.

We sometimes forget he's still a kid ....

[Per]

He's not a kid. He's 23. Its time he starts acting like it.

[carcajou]

He's not a kid. He's 23. Its time he starts acting like it.

Oh yeah I forgot..... He's 23...... Let's call him old geezer... ;)

[Per]

I'm not joking.

I think 23 is an age where you should and could take responsibility for what you do.

His stupidity just cost him and Juventus three games.

A yeah.....I guess I am an old geezer then.... :eusa_liar:

[Kowalczyk]

I think 23 is an age where you should and could take responsibility for what you do.

I agree. Obviously you keep developing as a person and your opinions and attitude change over the years, but looking back (I am 30 now) I was very well able to take full responsibility for the things I said and did at 23. You are an adult at that age - and, although you will always keep changing, your way of thinking does not essentially change anymore after - say - 21. At that age you are aware of the consequences of things (which does not necessarily mean you always make the right judgements). But at 23 you understand stuff 100%.

K.

[carcajou]

I think 23 is an age where you should and could take responsibility for what you do.

I agree. Obviously you keep developing as a person and your opinions and attitude change over the years, but looking back (I am 30 now) I was very well able to take full responsibility for the things I said and did at 23. You are an adult at that age - and, although you will always keep changing, your way of thinking does not essentially change anymore after - say - 21. At that age you are aware of the consequences of things (which does not necessarily mean you always make the right judgements). But at 23 you understand stuff 100%.

K.

Yes.... But Zlatan has always been a diva, a diva of the immature type. Plus he's very hot-blooded so I guess reactions like that are not so surprising.

[Frans]

Don't even start with that 'kid' stuff. If you're getting paid tens of thousands of dollars every week, then you have to take responsibility for what you do, whether you're 17 or 70. No excuses.

[Kowalczyk]

Yes.... But Zlatan has always been a diva, a diva of the immature type. Plus he's very hot-blooded so I guess reactions like that are not so surprising.

Exactly. Zlatan is not a kid. He's a dandy, an ego and a loudmouth (God bless him for that; enough boring football players already). Which is not necessarily the same as immaturity. Loudmouths who constantly take the piss out of everyone and don't give a living crap about what people may think of them are often seen as immature, but in more than just a few cases that says more about the folks who feel about it that way than about the person accused of immaturity. People are mediocre by nature and in most cases easily annoyed by people like Zlatan, who is unpredictable, fickle and a little bit of threat to everything that's 'safe' and 'normal'. People feel intimidated by guys like Zlatan.

In other words: he's a fucking rockstar, I love him and if that category of people would disappear from this planet I guarantee you I would hang myself.

For exactly the same reason I love Co Adriaanse. Very intelligent, very funny and very provocative. At his best moments he gets this twinkling in his eyes that tells you there's still a little boy inside.

By the way: from the start I've had this remarkable feeling that Zlatan and I could be friends (in theory). I think we would be very much on the same wavelength. That's something I've never felt before with a football player. 99 out of 100 times I just think: my God, the two of us would have nothing in common...

K.

[Manneken Pis]

Bittorrent jakob, bittorrent ;)

Torrent link is up mate ;)

Now we're talking !!!

Everybody : The more people will connect to the tracker Jakob (kindly) set up for us, the best download rates we will get so get a hand on your clients and we'll ride the wind !!! :D :D :headbang:

http://thepiratebay.org/download.php/33 ... vi.torrent

Edit : I'm downloading right now and the rate is really good, thank you Jakob.

And by the way, maybe you all know that (if so, sorry), but try to leave your client open as long as possible after the completion of the download (i.e. seeding for all your Ajax Fans fellows and aiming a dl/ul ratio of 1).

OK guys...I admit I'm technologically handicapped....but I downloaded using BitLord......now how do I open the frickin' thing?????

:withstupid:

[Cedric]

I'm not an expert, but I use aezeurus or something like this to downlod torrent file. You have to open your .torrent file with your software, so I think it must something like "file" then "open".

Else, you can try this link http://www.footballclips.net/?q=zlatan_ ... rande_ibra

I download the video on this website and it was quite fast (10 to 15 minutes I think). But I don't know how fast is my connection as I use a Wi-Fi network of an unknown neighbour... Thanks to him ;)

[jakobg]

Ajax keep watching Marcus Rosenberg. In today's Aftonbladet there's an article with a picture of Ajax scout John Steen Olsen together with Rosenberg's agent Martin Dahlin and the Malmö FF director Hasse Borg in the stands as MFF won 3-0 at home (three assists from Rosenberg).

Nothing new in the story tho, but more speculations that Rosenberg is already ready for Ajax and will leave in the summer.

If Ajax want Rosenberg it will cost the club quite a lot. Lokomotiv Moscow offered 60 million Swedish crones (about 6 million euros), but was turned down.

[Per]

Given the nature of the visits from Ajax, having been there on several occassions, sitting next to a Malmö representative, having the agent present......I think it's fair to say that Ajax will probably come up with a bid for him to join next season.

What Markus thinks is already evident. He's stated that Ajax would be the perfect start to his abroad carreer. He wants to go the same way Zlatan did.

I guess the only thing that could stop the deal is the fee. My feeling is that it should wind up somewhere around 40-60 SEK, probably around 50 more than 60....this is about 5.5 MEUR.

I would like to add that ROsenberg does not hold the same qualities that Zlatan does. But I think that he will learn the team game a lot faster and he will never miss the sitting ducks like Zlatan did. He's much more of a poacher than Zlatan.

Still, given what he's shows the last two seasons I think that if he could grow some more in Ajax during a year he could be a very good footballer and asset to us.

[Kowalczyk]

So, Borussia Mönchengladbach are safe, which means that the transfer of Wesley Sonck is now official, but the downside of that fact is that our man Jari Litmanen has now officially gone down to the Second Bundesliga with Hansa Rostock.

Don't think he'll be staying. What's he gonna do...? I know that Danny Blind talked to him, asking if he felt like becoming his assistant coach. Jari turned the offer down, as he felt he wasn't finished as a player just yet. Wonder how he feels now.

K.

[Manneken Pis]

Dutch striker confirms Newcastle exit
From the FansFC.com website.
Not much of a surprise.....

13:21 May, 9, 2005
Patrick Kluivert will look for a new club in the summer

Mail The FansFC Editor
Send This Article To A Friend
Post Your View on The Msg Board

The 28-year-old has had a disappointing first season at St James Park and Newcastle would have been unlikely to take up their option of a further two-year deal given Kluivert's injury problems and high wages.

A number of Spanish sides together with Turkish club Fenerbahce are keen on a deal for the former Barcelona man who has confirmed that La Liga is his preferred destination.

[AsgAarD_xxx]

So, Borussia Mönchengladbach are safe, which means that the transfer of Wesley Sonck is now official

K.

They still want him? He didn't have a lot of great games in Borussia M. and (as far as I know) he din't score any goal so it is a little bit surprise... What's going on with him? Few years ago (in Genk) he was great striker... and now? What's wrong with him?

[aveslacker]

So, Borussia Mönchengladbach are safe, which means that the transfer of Wesley Sonck is now official

K.

They still want him? He didn't have a lot of great games in Borussia M. and (as far as I know) he din't score any goal so it is a little bit surprise... What's going on with him? Few years ago (in Genk) he was great striker... and now? What's wrong with him?

Ronald Koeman. :furious3:
:withstupid:

[Manneken Pis]

So, Borussia Mönchengladbach are safe, which means that the transfer of Wesley Sonck is now official

K.

They still want him? He didn't have a lot of great games in Borussia M. and (as far as I know) he din't score any goal so it is a little bit surprise... What's going on with him? Few years ago (in Genk) he was great striker... and now? What's wrong with him?

The deal that BMG signed with Ajax stated that if they were not relegated they were oblidged to take him...... :eusa_dance: ......so even if they don't want him anymore they are still on the hook.

As to what's wrong with him...I really don't know....he was great when he played in the Belgian League, and scored regularly for the national team. He didn't fit into the Ajax "system" (and Koeman?), and I think is now suffering from a lack of confidence. If he gets the right coach I think he will return to his best. I was always a supporter of Soncky....I hope it works out for him.

[AsgAarD_xxx]

The deal that BMG signed with Ajax stated that if they were not relegated they were oblidged to take him...... :eusa_dance: ......so even if they don't want him anymore they are still on the hook.

Hehehe... Ajax, make the same with Sikora, please :D

[Over Pasanens Head]

The deal that BMG signed with Ajax stated that if they were not relegated they were oblidged to take him...... :eusa_dance: ......so even if they don't want him anymore they are still on the hook.

Hehehe... Ajax, make the same with Sikora, please :D

Not another one - when will the world learn. :eusa_pray:

[Kowalczyk]

Remarkable, this...

http://www.itv-football.co.uk/Teams/Eve ... 2022.shtml

K.

[Kowalczyk]

Yep, J.O.B. is indeed a former Ajax player. Here's an article about him, from USA Today:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/soccer/n ... htm?csp=34

K.

[aveslacker]

Yep, J.O.B. is indeed a former Ajax player. Here's an article about him, from USA Today:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/soccer/n ... htm?csp=34

K.

Man, I love that picture. JOB walking away from the goal, two Portugese hanging their heads in shame: USA 1 - Portugal 0 (FT 3 -2) :worshippy:

[Manneken Pis]

Apparently Shota A. is considering a summer move to AZ........