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17 DEC; AZ - Ajax; Match Day 17

Geplaatst: do dec 14, 2017 11:08 pm
door Orange14
Ajax and AZ are even on points but Ajax have the best goal differential in the league right now. This will be a tough game with a lot of players missing from injury and suspension. Schöne returns after missing the Excelsior match and we will have to see the extent of Wöber's injury (even if it is only a sprain, I don't think he plays). Who does Keizer start on the back line with de Ligt?

Re: 17 DEC; AZ - Ajax; Match Day 17

Geplaatst: vr dec 15, 2017 1:58 pm
door Orange14
Wöber's knee in a brace and the extent of the injury is still not known. If there is a lot of swelling they need for that to go down before a scan can be done. He is definitely out of Sunday's match. I have not seen any report on Siem de Jong who came off on his own after a late second half knock. Veltman, as noted, is suspended. It will be interesting to see what type of formation Keizer puts on the field Sunday with de Ligt as the only solid defender (who would have thought that we would be saying an 18 year old is the best defender on the club!!!).

Re: 17 DEC; AZ - Ajax; Match Day 17

Geplaatst: vr dec 15, 2017 2:19 pm
door SPL
V Leer our no 2 goalie out for 2 months .Orejuela not rated good enough at present to play and has been injured a bit. So Zeefuik will be used. We did of course sign Orejuela because they did not think Zeefuik was ready as back up RB. He doesn't look ready yet.

We have come into a season with just 2 right footed defenders to cover 2 positions ie Veltman and de Ligt with 2 reserve full backs not ready.I dont want to think about the shambles at LB.

Re: 17 DEC; AZ - Ajax; Match Day 17

Geplaatst: vr dec 15, 2017 6:26 pm
door Ayman
SPL schreef:V Leer our no 2 goalie out for 2 months .Orejuela not rated good enough at present to play and has been injured a bit. So Zeefuik will be used. We did of course sign Orejuela because they did not think Zeefuik was ready as back up RB. He doesn't look ready yet.

We have come into a season with just 2 right footed defenders to cover 2 positions ie Veltman and de Ligt with 2 reserve full backs not ready.I dont want to think about the shambles at LB.
Regarding the left back position, I hope Mitchell Bakker gets to go on the bench and perhaps some playing time, I know he isn't ready, but coming on as a sub, he may surprise everyone by creating an assist!

Re: 17 DEC; AZ - Ajax; Match Day 17

Geplaatst: vr dec 15, 2017 8:12 pm
door SPL
Agree with Bakker ,he is now starting to get playing time with Jong and hopefully he will get on the bench before the season's end.

Wober is not badly injured,not sure when he will be fit but he will be back before the end of the season.Good news.

Re: 17 DEC; AZ - Ajax; Match Day 17

Geplaatst: zo dec 17, 2017 1:26 pm
door SPL
KJH for Dolberg and Schone for Siem. Back 4 Zeefuik,de Ligt,de Jong,Dijks

I would settle for a point with that back 4 but we will attack and hope for 3 points.

Re: 17 DEC; AZ - Ajax; Match Day 17

Geplaatst: zo dec 17, 2017 2:17 pm
door Orange14
SPL schreef:KJH for Dolberg and Schone for Siem. Back 4 Zeefuik,de Ligt,de Jong,Dijks
It will be interesting to see if this ends up a 4-3-3 or a 3-4-3. I believe Eiting has played as a true back line player at times but not Frenkie. Keizer has a tough match ahead today.

Re: 17 DEC; AZ - Ajax; Match Day 17

Geplaatst: zo dec 17, 2017 2:44 pm
door rjf1
11 minutes in and AZ is getting the far better of the attacking chances -- they are obviously targeting our left defense -- with good results, so far. This will be a tough game for us to win, or even tie.

Re: 17 DEC; AZ - Ajax; Match Day 17

Geplaatst: zo dec 17, 2017 2:44 pm
door King Litti
how in earth that stayed out?!

Re: 17 DEC; AZ - Ajax; Match Day 17

Geplaatst: zo dec 17, 2017 2:45 pm
door Ayman
Neres with a good chance and Huntelaar with the rebound but cleared, AZ are no pushovers

Re: 17 DEC; AZ - Ajax; Match Day 17

Geplaatst: zo dec 17, 2017 2:47 pm
door rjf1
Two point blank shots in succession cleared off the line by one of their defenders -- unbelievable.

Re: 17 DEC; AZ - Ajax; Match Day 17

Geplaatst: zo dec 17, 2017 2:49 pm
door Ayman
rjf1 schreef:Two point blank shots in succession cleared off the line by one of their defenders -- unbelievable.

It's promising though, AZ are tricky, but they do seem nervous

Re: 17 DEC; AZ - Ajax; Match Day 17

Geplaatst: zo dec 17, 2017 2:50 pm
door King Litti
Az came out with a intensive high press and we couldn't play through it, but it was clear that they would not have the energy to keep that up for a long time. Things look better for us now.

Re: 17 DEC; AZ - Ajax; Match Day 17

Geplaatst: zo dec 17, 2017 2:54 pm
door Ayman
Shit they nearly scored! How the hell did the Ajax defense open up like that?

Re: 17 DEC; AZ - Ajax; Match Day 17

Geplaatst: zo dec 17, 2017 2:55 pm
door Ayman
It's a penalty! Zeefuik handball and AZ are 1-0 up

Re: 17 DEC; AZ - Ajax; Match Day 17

Geplaatst: zo dec 17, 2017 2:57 pm
door SPL
Oh dear this does not look good 1 proper defender and he is 18

Re: 17 DEC; AZ - Ajax; Match Day 17

Geplaatst: zo dec 17, 2017 3:01 pm
door Ayman
Zeefuik reminds me of John Nieuwenburg in the early 2000s. He really is becoming a liablity

Re: 17 DEC; AZ - Ajax; Match Day 17

Geplaatst: zo dec 17, 2017 3:06 pm
door Ayman
Dijks is injured! Why the hell wasn't Bakker on the bench!

Re: 17 DEC; AZ - Ajax; Match Day 17

Geplaatst: zo dec 17, 2017 3:07 pm
door Ayman
Great save by Onana, Weghorst had a great chance

Re: 17 DEC; AZ - Ajax; Match Day 17

Geplaatst: zo dec 17, 2017 3:13 pm
door SPL
KJH yes,he still has it in him

Re: 17 DEC; AZ - Ajax; Match Day 17

Geplaatst: zo dec 17, 2017 3:13 pm
door Ayman
1-1 The Hunter!

Re: 17 DEC; AZ - Ajax; Match Day 17

Geplaatst: zo dec 17, 2017 3:16 pm
door rjf1
Perfect through pass from Neres and the Hunter collects and slips it past their goalie to even the score!!

Re: 17 DEC; AZ - Ajax; Match Day 17

Geplaatst: zo dec 17, 2017 3:19 pm
door SPL
Well just pleased we are level although we did have some good chances.They have had chances and as we have no defence.

KJH has had 3 good chances and put one away. Dolberg may be a better all round striker but in a game like today we need his experience and his ability to put the ball in the net.(Speaking of course as a hugh KJH fan!)

Re: 17 DEC; AZ - Ajax; Match Day 17

Geplaatst: zo dec 17, 2017 3:19 pm
door Tom_
Such a messy game. Zeefuik having a nightmare out there.

Re: 17 DEC; AZ - Ajax; Match Day 17

Geplaatst: zo dec 17, 2017 3:20 pm
door Orange14
First time this season I've had trouble with streams. I missed both goals because of dropouts! :blackcat.gif: We are seeing yet another poorly officiated match. Several AZ attacks were offsides and not called. Huntelaar was pulled down in the box on what should have been a stone cold penalty call.

Our defending is pretty bad but they manage somehow to have only conceded the one goal. I still don't understand how we did not score at the 14th minute when both van der Beek and then Huntelaar had balls saved off the line by a defender when the keeper was out of position.