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17 August AZ-Ajax Match Day 2
Geplaatst: wo aug 13, 2014 11:36 am
door Orange14
On to AZ for what could be a tricky fixture. Saint Marco van Basten has moved over from Heerenveen as the manager. Will we see the WC players Blind, Cillessen & Veltman in the starting lineup?
Re: 17 August AZ-Ajax Match Day 2
Geplaatst: wo aug 13, 2014 5:46 pm
door ajaxcolombia
Van der Hoorn almost had a very good game against Vitesse, until the last couple minutes, which is why Veltman is probably the most important player that should return.
Re: 17 August AZ-Ajax Match Day 2
Geplaatst: wo aug 13, 2014 6:24 pm
door Tom_
What do you guys think about van der Hoorn (i.e. do you like Mike)? Last season I was happy to assume he was just having a run of terrible luck, but I'm starting to wonder if he has a genuine problem with decision making. That shirt pull on van der Heijden was pretty ridiculous...
Re: 17 August AZ-Ajax Match Day 2
Geplaatst: wo aug 13, 2014 7:43 pm
door Orange14
Van der Hoorn has a history of making wrong decisions. He had issues for Utrecht and also for the Dutch U-21s where he cost them a match. Physically he has all the tools and maybe it's immaturity at this point in time. I think we over paid for him and the jury is still out about his long term status with the club. I was hopeful last Sunday but then in the 80th minute he self destructed again.
Re: 17 August AZ-Ajax Match Day 2
Geplaatst: wo aug 13, 2014 8:55 pm
door Amol
He looked pretty solid until late in the game. I forget how van der heijden got past him, but I think he had to pull him down on that one.
The other one where he ended leaving the entire right center portion of defense open - that was worse than school boy football. He was trying to make a tackle in midfield and had the look of 'oh f__k' when the attacking player passed him.
Re: 17 August AZ-Ajax Match Day 2
Geplaatst: do aug 14, 2014 2:41 pm
door ajaxcolombia
He had a very solid season before coming to ajax. Yes there were maybe one or two games he made huge mistakes. But during the 2012-2013 season he was very good, maybe one of the best in the eredivise. But we seem to have bad luck with Centre back signings (wielart comes to mind but then again mosainder has been excellent).
Re: 17 August AZ-Ajax Match Day 2
Geplaatst: vr aug 15, 2014 2:51 pm
door Cruijff
Looking forward to this one. Got offered a couple of tickets to go see this in Alkmaar, but I refused and will sit in front of the telly instead.
Re: 17 August AZ-Ajax Match Day 2
Geplaatst: vr aug 15, 2014 3:23 pm
door Orange14
Cruijff schreef:Looking forward to this one. Got offered a couple of tickets to go see this in Alkmaar, but I refused and will sit in front of the telly instead.
Afraid of the mean streets of Alkmaar?

Re: 17 August AZ-Ajax Match Day 2
Geplaatst: vr aug 15, 2014 3:41 pm
door Cruijff
Orange14 schreef:Afraid of the mean streets of Alkmaar?

Well yeah most of the 'windows' in the Alkmaar red light district used to be owned by Amsterdam criminals Cor van Hout and Willem Holleeder.

But no, I just don't feel like making the train ride to Alkmaar (and back) when I also have a 10k run on the Sunday morning.
Re: 17 August AZ-Ajax Match Day 2
Geplaatst: vr aug 15, 2014 5:08 pm
door Orange14
Cruijff schreef:I just don't feel like making the train ride to Alkmaar (and back) when I also have a 10k run on the Sunday morning.
Good luck on the run! I stopped running about 15 years ago to save wear and tear on the knees and other joints. I do a lot of walking and hiking these days to keep in fighting shape!
Re: 17 August AZ-Ajax Match Day 2
Geplaatst: vr aug 15, 2014 7:12 pm
door SPL
Cruijff sounds like my 25 year old son he is always running 10k 's to keep fit. I just do something very Dutch instead ,get on my bike.I cycle and walk a lot to keep fit.
Thought Alkmaar was a sleepy little town where they sell cheese!!!
Cillessen will be back with Blind but Veltman is not included .Maybe playing very little in Brazil he is not 100% match fit. He plays for Jong Ajax tomorrow along with V Rhijn who is now fit and Denswil.FDB wants Denswil to be playing and not sit on the bench.
Tete is on the bench in Alkmaar.
Re: 17 August AZ-Ajax Match Day 2
Geplaatst: vr aug 15, 2014 8:29 pm
door Cruijff
SPL schreef:Cruijff sounds like my 25 year old son he is always running 10k 's to keep fit. I just do something very Dutch instead ,get on my bike.I cycle and walk a lot to keep fit.
I am a little bit (some years) older than 25

but yeah, it's a good way to stay fit. Oh and I join you in that very Dutch thing as I ride my bike towards that 10k race.
SPL schreef:Thought Alkmaar was a sleepy little town where they sell cheese!!!
Yes, it is.
Nice place to sit in the sun (in case we have nice weather in Holland) and get a beer, but you don't miss much when you don't go to Alkmaar.
Number 2 in the league plays number 1!

Re: 17 August AZ-Ajax Match Day 2
Geplaatst: zo aug 17, 2014 11:12 am
door Cruijff
Jasper, Daley and also Kolbeinn are back in the line-up.
Re: 17 August AZ-Ajax Match Day 2
Geplaatst: zo aug 17, 2014 11:31 am
door Orange14
Wonder why no Veltman. Hope van der Hoorn keeps his head screwed on straight.
Re: 17 August AZ-Ajax Match Day 2
Geplaatst: zo aug 17, 2014 11:35 am
door Tom_
Siggy! Since Siem is gone I'm going to continue my tradition of cheering for unpopular players. I reckon he's better than Milik, anyway.
Re: 17 August AZ-Ajax Match Day 2
Geplaatst: zo aug 17, 2014 11:41 am
door Cruijff
Orange14 schreef:Wonder why no Veltman.
Just before the match De Boer explained why no Veltman.
Re: 17 August AZ-Ajax Match Day 2
Geplaatst: zo aug 17, 2014 11:46 am
door Orange14
Wow was that ever pretty. Maybe Klaassen's first touch?
Re: 17 August AZ-Ajax Match Day 2
Geplaatst: zo aug 17, 2014 11:46 am
door Tom_
Nice! Interesting defending from AZ

Re: 17 August AZ-Ajax Match Day 2
Geplaatst: zo aug 17, 2014 11:46 am
door Orange14
Cruijff schreef:Orange14 schreef:Wonder why no Veltman.
Just before the match De Boer explained why no Veltman.
I've got a Russian feed so no understand!
Re: 17 August AZ-Ajax Match Day 2
Geplaatst: zo aug 17, 2014 11:47 am
door Tom_
I thought he played for Jong last night?
Re: 17 August AZ-Ajax Match Day 2
Geplaatst: zo aug 17, 2014 12:02 pm
door rjf1
Orange14 schreef:...I've got a Russian feed so no understand!
There is an English sopcast feed on that Russian site (livetv.ru/en/)
Re: 17 August AZ-Ajax Match Day 2
Geplaatst: zo aug 17, 2014 12:18 pm
door Orange14
We probably should have had 1-2 more goals. Ligeon really should have passed to an open Sigthorrsson when he broke in clear on goal and Sigthorrsson lost his balance when he got off of his marker. We still are dicey on defense and I won't be surprised if AZ get at least one goal in the 2nd half.
Re: 17 August AZ-Ajax Match Day 2
Geplaatst: zo aug 17, 2014 12:27 pm
door Dave the mac
Up at 3:30 am local time to watch.... Entertaining 1st half and nice goal from Klaassen, with his first touch?
Was out of town last week so this is my first look at this season's team.
Re: 17 August AZ-Ajax Match Day 2
Geplaatst: zo aug 17, 2014 12:32 pm
door Cruijff
Orange14 schreef:Cruijff schreef:Just before the match De Boer explained why no Veltman.
I've got a Russian feed so no understand!
De Boer said that in this stadium 'a post Worldcup player' like Blind has to get a substitute after 75 minutes. He doesn't want to waste two substitutes. So I suppose Veltman will probably return in the squad next week against PSV.
Re: 17 August AZ-Ajax Match Day 2
Geplaatst: zo aug 17, 2014 12:35 pm
door Dave the mac
2nd half under way El Ghazi in for Kishna.