16 Apr 2008: FC Groningen - Ajax

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Bericht door saddlerian » zo apr 13, 2008 3:42 pm

Rangers 2 up!!!

money's already in the bank!!!
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Bericht door saddlerian » zo apr 13, 2008 3:44 pm

DanK schreef:
DanK schreef:
Chugger schreef:Won't we get them on goal difference if they draw again and we win twice?
Thats my understanding. I think we are currently +4 better off than them.
Actually I think if they draw, they win the league by 1 pt.
Let's clear this up...

IF PSV get a point.....They're Champions.....
but they won't.....and Ajax will get 6 points........
and AJAX will be champions!!!!
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Bericht door DanK » zo apr 13, 2008 3:47 pm

SaddlerIan schreef: Let's clear this up...

IF PSV get a point.....They're Champions.....
but they won't.....and Ajax will get 6 points........
and AJAX will be champions!!!!
If you are right - my shout next time we catch up. :onfire.gif:

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Bericht door Manneken Pis » zo apr 13, 2008 3:48 pm

DanK schreef:
Chugger schreef:Won't we get them on goal difference if they draw again and we win twice?
Thats my understanding. I think we are currently +4 better off than them.
Not according to this:

FOOTBALL LIVE TABLES

Dutch Holland Casino Eredivisie

Team P Pts Goal Goals Current
Diff Scored Score
PSV 33 69 40 64 1-1 FT v FC Twente
Ajax 32 63 44 87 P-P v FC Groningen
NAC 33 63 0 47 1-0 FT v Heracles
FC Twente 33 59 18 50 1-1 FT v PSV
Heerenveen 33 57 35 83 2-4 FT v Sparta
Feyenoord 33 57 20 61 1-3 FT v Willem II
FC Groningen 32 51 1 52 P-P v Ajax
Roda JC 33 47 3 55 4-1 FT v VVV
NEC 33 46 -3 46 1-0 FT v Vitesse
FC Utrecht 33 43 3 58 1-1 FT v De Graafschap
Vitesse 33 43 -8 46 0-1 FT v NEC
AZ 33 40 -6 47 1-1 FT v Excelsior
Sparta 33 34 -23 52 4-2 FT v Heerenveen
Heracles 33 32 -26 33 0-1 FT v NAC
Willem II 33 31 -7 40 3-1 FT v Feyenoord
De Graafschap 33 30 -28 33 1-1 FT v FC Utrecht
Excelsior 33 27 -38 32 1-1 FT v AZ
VVV 33 26 -35 41 1-4 FT v Roda JC
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Bericht door saddlerian » zo apr 13, 2008 3:49 pm

Your cash is probably safe Dan....but, you never know!!!!
Just got to wait for contact from the Arena re-Cards.....any contact with you yet???
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Bericht door DanK » zo apr 13, 2008 3:54 pm

SaddlerIan schreef:Your cash is probably safe Dan....but, you never know!!!!
Just got to wait for contact from the Arena re-Cards.....any contact with you yet???
Nothing yet :confused.gif: I'll update you as soon as I find something out.

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Bericht door Tom_ » zo apr 13, 2008 3:55 pm

You're quite right, we need them to lose. Should've looked it up, sorry.
SaddlerIan schreef:Let's clear this up...

IF PSV get a point.....They're Champions.....
but they won't.....and Ajax will get 6 points........
and AJAX will be champions!!!!

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Bericht door saddlerian » zo apr 13, 2008 4:00 pm

No panic...

at least we know what we've got to do now...


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Bericht door SE6Ajacied » zo apr 13, 2008 5:18 pm

SaddlerIan schreef:Rangers 2 up!!!

money's already in the bank!!!
Bad luck Jags. I watched the highlights of the Queen of the South/Aberdeen Semi Final yesterday - amazing game, it really looked a good one to be at. They said after the game that you never know which version of Aberdeen will turn up but apparently this was both (good at the front/bad at the back) :biggrin.gif:
Forza Haarlem. HFC Gone but not forgotten!

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Bericht door Van basten » ma apr 14, 2008 6:22 am

It seems that the game will be played on wednesday 19.30

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Bericht door Kowalczyk » ma apr 14, 2008 7:25 am

Van basten schreef:It seems that the game will be played on wednesday 19.30
Yeah, not 100% confirmed, but both clubs are announcing it...

Must-win, obviously.

K.
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Bericht door Kowalczyk » ma apr 14, 2008 7:53 am

I didn't read the full four pages, but here's what happened: before kick-off Groningen fans the hundreds of toilet rolls from the North Stand. They had their club's permission to do this. Then, someone set the paper on fire. The fire spread quickly over the North Stand. Plastic seats started to melt. The fire caused panic: people jumped onto the pitch and started to run towards the exit. One lady broke her ankle. Four people had to be brought to a hospital with burns. Nineteen were treated because they had trouble breathing.

Meanwhile, the two teams were still in the dressing rooms. These rooms were full of smoke (it was everywhere). The reason for the club doctors to give a negative advice was the fact that many players of Groningen and Ajax were nauseous, had headaches and trouble breathing. The doctors feared that the air inside the stadium was polluted and perhaps poisonous because of all the melted plastic seats.

It looks like the game will be played on Wednesday with fans of both clubs in attendance. One question, though: we got kicked out of Europe for a season once (and after that we had to play three home games in Germany) because some idiot threw an iron bar that hit the goalkeeper. Is there a fundamental difference with this incident? One moron doing something stupid, game called off and the players were directly affected... There is a difference, I guess: the iron bar of 1989 hit only one player. This idiot jeopardized the health of two entire teams plus the people on the stands.

It would be a scandal if Groningen get away with this.

K.
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Bericht door DanK » ma apr 14, 2008 7:58 am

Kowalczyk schreef:I didn't read the full four pages, but here's what happened: before kick-off Groningen fans the hundreds of toilet rolls from the North Stand. They had their club's permission to do this...
Bad decision #1...What were they thinking???

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Bericht door Kowalczyk » ma apr 14, 2008 9:35 am

Manneken Pis schreef:BTW Official reason for cancelation is the smoke, and the effect it would have on the players.
Yeah. Firstly, there was a lot of smoke in the dressing rooms. The players were complaining about nauseousness, head-aches, dizziness and what have you.

Secondly, the smell on the pitch was pretty bad and the doctors couldn't guarantee (without a scientific test of some sort) that there were no dangerous chemicals in the air.

Correct decision, I reckon. Everybody seemed to agree.

K.
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Bericht door Over Pasanens Head » ma apr 14, 2008 9:38 am

They certainly seem to like to play with fire up there. Wasn't it there a few seasons back that Ajax's team bus was burnt?
Well rock and roll is such a crazy drug,
It wraps you up in a great big hug

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Bericht door Manneken Pis » ma apr 14, 2008 8:10 pm

Kowalczyk schreef:There is a difference, I guess: the iron bar of 1989 hit only one player. This idiot jeopardized the health of two entire teams plus the people on the stands.

It would be a scandal if Groningen get away with this.

K.
Dunno Ko....

Surelly the difference is intent.
Throwing an iron bar is intending to hurt someone.
If the fire was due to some overexcited farmer who was smoking and accidentally dropped his ciggie, the club getting punished would be harsh.

Is smoking banned in stadiums these days?
If so lax stewrding would be a legitimate cause for punishment.


On a different note I heard their fans had gone out to print "F#ck Ajax" t-shirts. It must have been a hell of an anticlimax if they hate us so much .... :smallgrin.gif:
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Bericht door 666 » di apr 15, 2008 9:02 am

Looking for intent? When the fire started the crowd kept throwing more paper on it to keep it going. Feeding a fire in a packed stadium...
Manneken Pis schreef:Surelly the difference is intent.
Sign your name on
the dotted line:

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Bericht door Van basten » wo apr 16, 2008 6:33 pm

4-4-2 with Suarez and KJH in front

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Bericht door Van basten » wo apr 16, 2008 6:51 pm

Lindgren!

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Bericht door saddlerian » wo apr 16, 2008 6:59 pm

Vermaelen off???? :confused.gif:
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Bericht door Van basten » wo apr 16, 2008 6:59 pm

rommedahl in Vermaelen out. injury probably

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Bericht door Van basten » wo apr 16, 2008 7:01 pm

OMG what a save!

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Bericht door Van basten » wo apr 16, 2008 7:08 pm

With Vermaelen out, we have Urby back on the left and Vertonghen as central defender. So we have a problem actualy..

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Bericht door saddlerian » wo apr 16, 2008 7:18 pm

SHIT!!!!! 1-1
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Bericht door Van basten » wo apr 16, 2008 7:19 pm

A card to Silva for nothing. And a goal.. Fuck

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