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Re: The Helmond Cup

Bericht door Orange14 » zo jan 27, 2013 9:06 pm

Zeux schreef:
SPL schreef:QPR lost 4-2 at home to MK Dons in the cup so Helmond Cup now in Milton Keynes
Wow, so the cup goes to the cellars of the English leagues. :-)
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Re: The Helmond Cup

Bericht door Cedric » zo jan 27, 2013 9:17 pm

Would be a shame, I prefer when it travels around the world.
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Re: The Helmond Cup

Bericht door SE6Ajacied » zo jan 27, 2013 10:23 pm

Yuck - FC Franchise have the cup!! Another reason to support ANY other team that plays them! Plastic team from a plastic town.
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Re: The Helmond Cup

Bericht door raymon » ma jan 28, 2013 12:43 am

SE6Ajacied schreef:Yuck - FC Franchise have the cup!! Another reason to support ANY other team that plays them! Plastic team from a plastic town.
It may be a while before the HC makes it way out of England.
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Re: The Helmond Cup

Bericht door beelzebub » ma jan 28, 2013 11:50 am

They are still unbeaten in 2013. Upcoming fixtures against Yeovil, AFC Bournemouth, Oldham, Doncaster, Swindon, Carlisle and Portsmouth.

Are Swindon and Portsmouth THE Swindon and Portsmouth?
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Re: The Helmond Cup

Bericht door zeux » ma jan 28, 2013 12:03 pm

When is their next cup match? If they can hold on until then, the Cup might go upwards again.
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Re: The Helmond Cup

Bericht door beelzebub » ma jan 28, 2013 1:10 pm

Let see what Brentford does in the replay against Chelsea. Besides MK Dons also Oldham has entered the next round of the FA cup as 3rd division club. It can travel 1 division up as Barnsley is 2nd division/Championship. Quickest way back to the PL is the replay of Brentford -Chelsea or the cupmatch Oldham - Everton. MK DOns play Oldham one week before the FA cup. But they might loose it earlier. :ajaxsmiley.gif:


Fifth round is at 16 Feb. And the draw is:
Huddersfield Town or Leicester City v Wigan Athletic
Milton Keynes Dons v Barnsley
Oldham Athletic v Everton
Luton Town v Millwall
Arsenal v Blackburn Rovers
Manchester City v Leeds United
Manchester United v Reading
Middlesbrough v Brentford or Chelsea
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Re: The Helmond Cup

Bericht door zeux » ma jan 28, 2013 1:19 pm

It looks like the match of MK Dons vs Oldham is before the FA-round of the 16th. If MK can retain the Helmond Cup until that match, it will at least enter the spheres of the FA-cup again.

The FA has at least some rescheduling to do, because MK Dons has a league-game planned against Swindon on the 16th...
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Re: The Helmond Cup

Bericht door Kowalczyk » ma jan 28, 2013 3:36 pm

MK Dons it is...

League One, ladies and gentlemen. Level three. Just like in Spain, a while ago.

2012-2013

11/08/12: Evian Thonon Gaillard FC - FC des Girondins de Bordeaux: 2-3
19/08/12: FC des Girondins de Bordeaux - Stade Rennais FC: 1-0
23/08/12: FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd - FC des Girondins de Bordeaux: 0-0
26/08/12: Paris Saint-Germain FC - FC des Girondins de Bordeaux: 0-0
30/08/12: FC des Girondins de Bordeaux - FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd: 3-2
02/09/12: FC des Girondins de Bordeaux - OGC Nice Côte d'Azur: 1-1
15/09/12: Valenciennes FC - FC des Girondins de Bordeaux: 0-0
20/09/12: FC des Girondins de Bordeaux - Club Brugge KV: 4-0
23/09/12: FC des Girondins de Bordeaux - AC Ajaccio: 2-2
30/09/12: Olympique Lyonnais - FC des Girondins de Bordeaux: 0-2
04/10/12: Newcastle United FC - FC des Girondins de Bordeaux: 3-0
07/10/12: Newcastle United FC - Manchester United FC: 0-3 :bertje.gif:
20/10/12: Manchester United FC - Stoke City FC: 4-2
23/10/12: Manchester United FC - Sporting Clube de Braga: 3-2
28/10/12: Chelsea FC - Manchester United FC: 2-3
31/10/12: Chelsea FC - Manchester United FC: 5-4 (a.e.t.)
03/11/12: Swansea City AFC - Chelsea FC: 1-1
07/11/12: Chelsea FC - FC Shakhtar Donetsk: 3-2
11/11/12: Chelsea FC - Liverpool FC: 1-1
17/11/12: West Bromwich Albion FC - Chelsea FC: 2-1
24/11/12: Sunderland AFC - West Bromwich Albion FC: 2-4
28/11/12: Swansea City AFC - West Bromwich Albion FC: 3-1
01/12/12: Arsenal FC - Swansea City AFC: 0-2
08/12/12: Swansea City AFC - Norwich City FC: 3-4
11/12/12: Norwich City FC - Aston Villa FC: 1-4
15/12/12: Liverpool FC - Aston Villa FC: 1-3
23/12/12: Chelsea FC - Aston Villa FC: 8-0
26/12/12: Norwich City FC - Chelsea FC: 0-1
30/12/12: Everton FC - Chelsea FC: 1-2
02/01/13: Chelsea FC - Queen's Park Rangers FC: 0-1
05/01/13: Queen's Park Rangers FC - West Bromwich Albion FC: 1-1
12/01/13: Queen's Park Rangers FC - Tottenham Hotspur FC: 0-0
15/01/13: West Bromwich Albion FC - Queen's Park Rangers FC: 0-1
19/01/13: West Ham United FC - Queen's Park Rangers FC: 1-1
26/01/13: Queen's Park Rangers FC - Milton Keynes Dons FC: 2-4
29/01/13: Yeovil Town FC - Milton Keynes Dons FC

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Re: The Helmond Cup

Bericht door michaelajaxfan » ma jan 28, 2013 4:33 pm

Absolutely fabulous. This is the place where the Helmond Cup belongs. The name of the cup speaks for itself.

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Re: The Helmond Cup

Bericht door Manneken Pis » ma jan 28, 2013 9:05 pm

michaelajaxfan schreef:Absolutely fabulous. This is the place where the Helmond Cup belongs. The name of the cup speaks for itself.
Excellent, now with a bit of luck in the fixtures my "other" team Notts County (who play in the same division as Milton Keynes) might get a shot at winning the Helmond Cup.
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Re: The Helmond Cup

Bericht door SE6Ajacied » ma jan 28, 2013 10:27 pm

beelzebub schreef:
Are Swindon and Portsmouth THE Swindon and Portsmouth?
Not sure what you mean, but they've both played in the Premier League, Swindon for one season only (92-93 ,the first PL season) and Portsmouth for a few seasons until a couple of years ago - severely overstretched themselves though and now in serious danger of getting relegated again (the upcoming 10 point penalty for being in Administration - again - won't help in ths department) or even going out of business completely.
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Re: The Helmond Cup

Bericht door Manneken Pis » ma jan 28, 2013 11:09 pm

SE6Ajacied schreef:
beelzebub schreef:
Are Swindon and Portsmouth THE Swindon and Portsmouth?
Not sure what you mean, but they've both played in the Premier League, Swindon for one season only (92-93 ,the first PL season) and Portsmouth for a few seasons until a couple of years ago - severely overstretched themselves though and now in serious danger of getting relegated again (the upcoming 10 point penalty for being in Administration - again - won't help in ths department) or even going out of business completely.
Yes, and Notts County were in the old First Division in '91-'92.
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Re: The Helmond Cup

Bericht door SE6Ajacied » di jan 29, 2013 9:14 pm

Manneken Pis schreef:
Yes, and Notts County were in the old First Division in '91-'92.
;0)
Yep, I remember. Matchwinner shirts sponsored by Home Bitter with yellow down the sleeves. Can't remember any players though :smallgrin.gif:
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Re: The Helmond Cup

Bericht door Manneken Pis » di jan 29, 2013 10:37 pm

SE6Ajacied schreef: Yep, I remember. Matchwinner shirts sponsored by Home Bitter with yellow down the sleeves. Can't remember any players though :smallgrin.gif:
Not "stellar" but we did have:
Dean Yates, Mark Draper, Craig Short, Tommy Johnson, Paul Rideout ...
... and of course, the manager was Neil Warnock who got us two consecutive promotions the two seasons before.
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Re: The Helmond Cup

Bericht door SE6Ajacied » di jan 29, 2013 10:59 pm

Manneken Pis schreef:
Not "stellar" but we did have:
Dean Yates, Mark Draper, Craig Short, Tommy Johnson, Paul Rideout ...
... and of course, the manager was Neil Warnock who got us two consecutive promotions the two seasons before.
Yep, remember 2 from that list now and certainly remember Paul Rideout, but playing for Everton I think. What's worrying me is that as I'm reading this, all I'm wondering is whether I'll be having this exact same conversation about Blackpool in 19 years time.....
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Re: The Helmond Cup

Bericht door Kowalczyk » wo jan 30, 2013 6:42 am

And it's Yeovil...

2012-2013

11/08/12: Evian Thonon Gaillard FC - FC des Girondins de Bordeaux: 2-3
19/08/12: FC des Girondins de Bordeaux - Stade Rennais FC: 1-0
23/08/12: FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd - FC des Girondins de Bordeaux: 0-0
26/08/12: Paris Saint-Germain FC - FC des Girondins de Bordeaux: 0-0
30/08/12: FC des Girondins de Bordeaux - FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd: 3-2
02/09/12: FC des Girondins de Bordeaux - OGC Nice Côte d'Azur: 1-1
15/09/12: Valenciennes FC - FC des Girondins de Bordeaux: 0-0
20/09/12: FC des Girondins de Bordeaux - Club Brugge KV: 4-0
23/09/12: FC des Girondins de Bordeaux - AC Ajaccio: 2-2
30/09/12: Olympique Lyonnais - FC des Girondins de Bordeaux: 0-2
04/10/12: Newcastle United FC - FC des Girondins de Bordeaux: 3-0
07/10/12: Newcastle United FC - Manchester United FC: 0-3 :bertje.gif:
20/10/12: Manchester United FC - Stoke City FC: 4-2
23/10/12: Manchester United FC - Sporting Clube de Braga: 3-2
28/10/12: Chelsea FC - Manchester United FC: 2-3
31/10/12: Chelsea FC - Manchester United FC: 5-4 (a.e.t.)
03/11/12: Swansea City AFC - Chelsea FC: 1-1
07/11/12: Chelsea FC - FC Shakhtar Donetsk: 3-2
11/11/12: Chelsea FC - Liverpool FC: 1-1
17/11/12: West Bromwich Albion FC - Chelsea FC: 2-1
24/11/12: Sunderland AFC - West Bromwich Albion FC: 2-4
28/11/12: Swansea City AFC - West Bromwich Albion FC: 3-1
01/12/12: Arsenal FC - Swansea City AFC: 0-2
08/12/12: Swansea City AFC - Norwich City FC: 3-4
11/12/12: Norwich City FC - Aston Villa FC: 1-4
15/12/12: Liverpool FC - Aston Villa FC: 1-3
23/12/12: Chelsea FC - Aston Villa FC: 8-0
26/12/12: Norwich City FC - Chelsea FC: 0-1
30/12/12: Everton FC - Chelsea FC: 1-2
02/01/13: Chelsea FC - Queen's Park Rangers FC: 0-1
05/01/13: Queen's Park Rangers FC - West Bromwich Albion FC: 1-1
12/01/13: Queen's Park Rangers FC - Tottenham Hotspur FC: 0-0
15/01/13: West Bromwich Albion FC - Queen's Park Rangers FC: 0-1
19/01/13: West Ham United FC - Queen's Park Rangers FC: 1-1
26/01/13: Queen's Park Rangers FC - Milton Keynes Dons FC: 2-4
29/01/13: Yeovil Town FC - Milton Keynes Dons FC: 2-1
02/02/13: Yeovil Town FC - Brentford FC

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Re: The Helmond Cup

Bericht door michaelajaxfan » wo jan 30, 2013 8:02 am

And they play Brentford! Don't they play Chelsea some day in the near future in replay for the cup? Amazing how the Helmond Cup can always possibly switch to another level!

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Re: The Helmond Cup

Bericht door beelzebub » wo jan 30, 2013 10:17 am

Yup. But the Brentford - Chelsea replay is at the same weekend (16/17 Feb) as the other cup matches, which are already one round ahead.
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Re: The Helmond Cup

Bericht door Kowalczyk » wo jan 30, 2013 12:30 pm

michaelajaxfan schreef:And they play Brentford! Don't they play Chelsea some day in the near future in replay for the cup? Amazing how the Helmond Cup can always possibly switch to another level!
That would be the third time Chelsea grab it since early November!

Never happened before.

The Helmond Cup arrived in the English Premier League on 7 October 2012. Since that it changed clubs eleven times. Which is amazing.

You're right: weird things can happen. Remember when it was drifting around in the Segunda B, the third level in Spain...? There seemed to be no way out. But all of a sudden: cup game against Athletic Bilbao - and in no-time it was back in UEFA competition and in another country (I think it went from Bilbao to Paris St. Germain...? No time to look that up right now). That was spectacular.

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Re: The Helmond Cup

Bericht door Kowalczyk » ma feb 04, 2013 3:39 am

Yeovil win. Play again on Tuesday.

2012-2013

11/08/12: Evian Thonon Gaillard FC - FC des Girondins de Bordeaux: 2-3
19/08/12: FC des Girondins de Bordeaux - Stade Rennais FC: 1-0
23/08/12: FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd - FC des Girondins de Bordeaux: 0-0
26/08/12: Paris Saint-Germain FC - FC des Girondins de Bordeaux: 0-0
30/08/12: FC des Girondins de Bordeaux - FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd: 3-2
02/09/12: FC des Girondins de Bordeaux - OGC Nice Côte d'Azur: 1-1
15/09/12: Valenciennes FC - FC des Girondins de Bordeaux: 0-0
20/09/12: FC des Girondins de Bordeaux - Club Brugge KV: 4-0
23/09/12: FC des Girondins de Bordeaux - AC Ajaccio: 2-2
30/09/12: Olympique Lyonnais - FC des Girondins de Bordeaux: 0-2
04/10/12: Newcastle United FC - FC des Girondins de Bordeaux: 3-0
07/10/12: Newcastle United FC - Manchester United FC: 0-3 :bertje.gif:
20/10/12: Manchester United FC - Stoke City FC: 4-2
23/10/12: Manchester United FC - Sporting Clube de Braga: 3-2
28/10/12: Chelsea FC - Manchester United FC: 2-3
31/10/12: Chelsea FC - Manchester United FC: 5-4 (a.e.t.)
03/11/12: Swansea City AFC - Chelsea FC: 1-1
07/11/12: Chelsea FC - FC Shakhtar Donetsk: 3-2
11/11/12: Chelsea FC - Liverpool FC: 1-1
17/11/12: West Bromwich Albion FC - Chelsea FC: 2-1
24/11/12: Sunderland AFC - West Bromwich Albion FC: 2-4
28/11/12: Swansea City AFC - West Bromwich Albion FC: 3-1
01/12/12: Arsenal FC - Swansea City AFC: 0-2
08/12/12: Swansea City AFC - Norwich City FC: 3-4
11/12/12: Norwich City FC - Aston Villa FC: 1-4
15/12/12: Liverpool FC - Aston Villa FC: 1-3
23/12/12: Chelsea FC - Aston Villa FC: 8-0
26/12/12: Norwich City FC - Chelsea FC: 0-1
30/12/12: Everton FC - Chelsea FC: 1-2
02/01/13: Chelsea FC - Queen's Park Rangers FC: 0-1
05/01/13: Queen's Park Rangers FC - West Bromwich Albion FC: 1-1
12/01/13: Queen's Park Rangers FC - Tottenham Hotspur FC: 0-0
15/01/13: West Bromwich Albion FC - Queen's Park Rangers FC: 0-1
19/01/13: West Ham United FC - Queen's Park Rangers FC: 1-1
26/01/13: Queen's Park Rangers FC - Milton Keynes Dons FC: 2-4
29/01/13: Yeovil Town FC - Milton Keynes Dons FC: 2-1
02/02/13: Yeovil Town FC - Brentford FC: 3-0
05/02/13: Oldham Athletic AFC - Yeovil Town FC

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Re: The Helmond Cup

Bericht door Kowalczyk » wo feb 06, 2013 9:12 am

Oldham vs Yeovil Town called off due to heavy snowfall...

Next game on Saturday!

2012-2013

11/08/12: Evian Thonon Gaillard FC - FC des Girondins de Bordeaux: 2-3
19/08/12: FC des Girondins de Bordeaux - Stade Rennais FC: 1-0
23/08/12: FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd - FC des Girondins de Bordeaux: 0-0
26/08/12: Paris Saint-Germain FC - FC des Girondins de Bordeaux: 0-0
30/08/12: FC des Girondins de Bordeaux - FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd: 3-2
02/09/12: FC des Girondins de Bordeaux - OGC Nice Côte d'Azur: 1-1
15/09/12: Valenciennes FC - FC des Girondins de Bordeaux: 0-0
20/09/12: FC des Girondins de Bordeaux - Club Brugge KV: 4-0
23/09/12: FC des Girondins de Bordeaux - AC Ajaccio: 2-2
30/09/12: Olympique Lyonnais - FC des Girondins de Bordeaux: 0-2
04/10/12: Newcastle United FC - FC des Girondins de Bordeaux: 3-0
07/10/12: Newcastle United FC - Manchester United FC: 0-3 :bertje.gif:
20/10/12: Manchester United FC - Stoke City FC: 4-2
23/10/12: Manchester United FC - Sporting Clube de Braga: 3-2
28/10/12: Chelsea FC - Manchester United FC: 2-3
31/10/12: Chelsea FC - Manchester United FC: 5-4 (a.e.t.)
03/11/12: Swansea City AFC - Chelsea FC: 1-1
07/11/12: Chelsea FC - FC Shakhtar Donetsk: 3-2
11/11/12: Chelsea FC - Liverpool FC: 1-1
17/11/12: West Bromwich Albion FC - Chelsea FC: 2-1
24/11/12: Sunderland AFC - West Bromwich Albion FC: 2-4
28/11/12: Swansea City AFC - West Bromwich Albion FC: 3-1
01/12/12: Arsenal FC - Swansea City AFC: 0-2
08/12/12: Swansea City AFC - Norwich City FC: 3-4
11/12/12: Norwich City FC - Aston Villa FC: 1-4
15/12/12: Liverpool FC - Aston Villa FC: 1-3
23/12/12: Chelsea FC - Aston Villa FC: 8-0
26/12/12: Norwich City FC - Chelsea FC: 0-1
30/12/12: Everton FC - Chelsea FC: 1-2
02/01/13: Chelsea FC - Queen's Park Rangers FC: 0-1
05/01/13: Queen's Park Rangers FC - West Bromwich Albion FC: 1-1
12/01/13: Queen's Park Rangers FC - Tottenham Hotspur FC: 0-0
15/01/13: West Bromwich Albion FC - Queen's Park Rangers FC: 0-1
19/01/13: West Ham United FC - Queen's Park Rangers FC: 1-1
26/01/13: Queen's Park Rangers FC - Milton Keynes Dons FC: 2-4
29/01/13: Yeovil Town FC - Milton Keynes Dons FC: 2-1
02/02/13: Yeovil Town FC - Brentford FC: 3-0
09/02/13: Coventry City FC - Yeovil Town FC

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Re: The Helmond Cup

Bericht door SPL » zo feb 10, 2013 6:13 pm

Yeovil beat Coventry 1-0 yesterday and next up they play Preston on Tuesday .

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Re: The Helmond Cup

Bericht door Kowalczyk » ma feb 11, 2013 8:58 am

SPL updated you (above), so here you go...

2012-2013

11/08/12: Evian Thonon Gaillard FC - FC des Girondins de Bordeaux: 2-3
19/08/12: FC des Girondins de Bordeaux - Stade Rennais FC: 1-0
23/08/12: FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd - FC des Girondins de Bordeaux: 0-0
26/08/12: Paris Saint-Germain FC - FC des Girondins de Bordeaux: 0-0
30/08/12: FC des Girondins de Bordeaux - FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd: 3-2
02/09/12: FC des Girondins de Bordeaux - OGC Nice Côte d'Azur: 1-1
15/09/12: Valenciennes FC - FC des Girondins de Bordeaux: 0-0
20/09/12: FC des Girondins de Bordeaux - Club Brugge KV: 4-0
23/09/12: FC des Girondins de Bordeaux - AC Ajaccio: 2-2
30/09/12: Olympique Lyonnais - FC des Girondins de Bordeaux: 0-2
04/10/12: Newcastle United FC - FC des Girondins de Bordeaux: 3-0
07/10/12: Newcastle United FC - Manchester United FC: 0-3 :bertje.gif:
20/10/12: Manchester United FC - Stoke City FC: 4-2
23/10/12: Manchester United FC - Sporting Clube de Braga: 3-2
28/10/12: Chelsea FC - Manchester United FC: 2-3
31/10/12: Chelsea FC - Manchester United FC: 5-4 (a.e.t.)
03/11/12: Swansea City AFC - Chelsea FC: 1-1
07/11/12: Chelsea FC - FC Shakhtar Donetsk: 3-2
11/11/12: Chelsea FC - Liverpool FC: 1-1
17/11/12: West Bromwich Albion FC - Chelsea FC: 2-1
24/11/12: Sunderland AFC - West Bromwich Albion FC: 2-4
28/11/12: Swansea City AFC - West Bromwich Albion FC: 3-1
01/12/12: Arsenal FC - Swansea City AFC: 0-2
08/12/12: Swansea City AFC - Norwich City FC: 3-4
11/12/12: Norwich City FC - Aston Villa FC: 1-4
15/12/12: Liverpool FC - Aston Villa FC: 1-3
23/12/12: Chelsea FC - Aston Villa FC: 8-0
26/12/12: Norwich City FC - Chelsea FC: 0-1
30/12/12: Everton FC - Chelsea FC: 1-2
02/01/13: Chelsea FC - Queen's Park Rangers FC: 0-1
05/01/13: Queen's Park Rangers FC - West Bromwich Albion FC: 1-1
12/01/13: Queen's Park Rangers FC - Tottenham Hotspur FC: 0-0
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Re: The Helmond Cup

Bericht door SPL » ma feb 11, 2013 1:05 pm

Its going to remain in the lower English leagues until next Sept when the lower clubs play the early rounds of the League Cup when one of the EPL clubs wins it .

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