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Geplaatst: **do feb 16, 2006 1:33 pm**

An individual player thread for our new reserve goalkeeper (as per 01 July 2006): Dennis Gentenaar!

K.

Geplaatst: **do feb 16, 2006 2:10 pm**

He could well become our first goalkeeper. Stekelenburg is having some weak moments, these past weeks.

Geplaatst: **vr feb 17, 2006 3:39 am**

Ajax have never really had strong keepers apart from van der Sar and a few others. Gentenaar would be a good back-up however, and I'd like to see him play ames against the likes of RBC etc. if Stekelenburg does stay #1, and if Ajax itself becomes a contender again.

Geplaatst: **vr feb 17, 2006 3:01 pm**

Excellent signing. NEC is the one side I've seen Ajax play more than once,with Gentenaar in goal, and he was great. Given Stekelenberg's penchant for injury, great to have such a quality reserve.And actually a keeper who can push Stekelenberg.

Geplaatst: **za feb 18, 2006 12:47 pm**

I don't think he is much better goalkeeper than Lobont was and Stekelenburg is, but one thing is sure- he doesn't make stupid mistakes as they do. He is experienced player and I won't be surprised if he became our first keeper.

PS: have you seen ice hockey game Czech Republic vs Switzerland on Olympic Games in Torino? Maybe we should buy Aebischer from Colorado Avalanche? ;)

Geplaatst: **zo feb 19, 2006 8:20 am**

I didn't see the whole game but Gentenaar was 100% responsible for P$V's win at NEC this weekend (2nd goal). Appaling judgement on the cross/shot.

Geplaatst: **zo feb 19, 2006 8:27 am**

He is not the NEC-goalie. Gentenaar plays in Germany at the moment, Dortmund.

Geplaatst: **zo feb 19, 2006 8:33 am**

Neefkens schreef:He is not the NEC-goalie. Gentenaar plays in Germany at the moment, Dortmund.

Manneken Pis

:withstupid:

Good....er sorry about that.....

Geplaatst: **zo feb 19, 2006 8:44 am**

No problemo :xyxthumbs:

Geplaatst: **ma feb 20, 2006 12:54 pm**

Hehe I am sure that he won't make a mistake if Gentenaar would be first goalkeeper in Dortmund. Can you see him playing in Bundesliga?

Geplaatst: **za sep 20, 2008 1:01 pm**

I think Dennis Gentenaar will regret the things he said about Van Basten's decision to make Kenneth Vermeer the 'second second goalkeeper'...

Van Basten's first reaction was already a subtle hint: "Before I say anything about it I want to speak to Dennis himself. I only read it in the media and I'm not going to discuss things via the media."

The next day: "Whatever it was that Dennis said, he should have said it to me first. Not to a journalist."

After that he had a sitdown with Gentenaar. What did they discuss? "That's between Dennis and me," Van Basten said.

Will this have consequences for Gentenaar, asked some journo. Van Basten's answer: "You will find out soon enough."

Couple of hours later it turns out that Vermeer is the second man for the Feyenoord game. He was also on the bench in Belgrade, whereas Van Basten had announced that they Gentenaar and Vermeer will be the reserve goalie in turns...

I think he's fucked. Wouldn't surprise me if he's off in January. Having said that: if (I repeat: if) Gentenaar's version of the story is correct, he definitely has a point.

This is the full interview from Amsterdam newspaper, Het Parool...

Ajax's third goalkeeper, Kenneth Vermeer, is in the squad as second goalkeeper for the UEFA Cup away game against FK Borac. Dennis Gentenaar, who will now stay at home, is not pleased about the fact that he will have to share the position of first reserve from now on. "I think it's amateuristic and I don't see how this is supposed to work."

"Van Basten wants us to be on the bench in turns," Gentenaar explains. "Perhaps I'll do the home games and Kenneth the away games or something. I don't know what the exact plan is."

One thing is for sure: Gentenaar disagrees with his coach. "Van Basten told me that Vermeer was too inconsistent at Willem II last season [Vermeer was loaned out to the Tilburg outfit, ed.], but that he did well for Young Oranje at the Olympics. He also said: Vermeer is not far behind you anymore, but he's not at your level yet. So apparently he still thinks that I'm the better goalkeeper."

"So I asked him why I can't be second goalkeeper anymore. Van Basten said that that would make Kenneth Vermeer a very unhappy man. I find that amateuristic. Is that supposed to be the 'top climate' at this club? You simply pick the best players, don't you? I find it ironic that he's concerned about Vermeer's feelings, but not about mine."

"I don't see how this should work, either. What if Maarten Stekelenburg picks up an injury? Am I gonna play the one week and Vermeer the next? Van Basten simply doesn't choose."

Gentenaar is convinced that Van Basten was influenced by the media. "After the Olympics all the papers and magazines were writing that it was odd that vermeer was only the third man at Ajax. Van Basten must have been thinking about that. I'm sure of that. I mean: isn't it weird that he suddenly decides this in mid-September?"

"I was interested in a contract renewal, but it's clear to me now: I have to think about my own future. Even a transfer in January is not out of the question."

If this is the true story, Gentenaar did talk to Van Basten first. And I would also agree with him that it's a weird decision. But: we all know how football players (and their agents) can 'use' the media. They only worry about their own careers and they're normally very good at 'forgetting' a detail or two. We don't know, but I think Van Basten will have no mercy. With this interview I think Gentenaar has pretty much fucked things up for himself.

K.

Geplaatst: **do okt 02, 2008 4:13 pm**

Vermeer will be in goal against Borac tonight. Sergio Padt will be on the bench. No Gentenaar.

Vermeer was also the second man behind Stekelenburg against Vitesse and Feyenoord.

Van Basten's statement is quite clear: Gentenaar's finished.

K.

Geplaatst: **do okt 02, 2008 4:15 pm**

Kowalczyk schreef:Vermeer will be in goal against Borac tonight. Sergio Padt will be on the bench. No Gentenaar.

Vermeer was also the second man behind Stekelenburg against Vitesse and Feyenoord.

Van Basten's statement is quite clear: Gentenaar's finished.

K.

I love vB's ruthlessness. Players need to learn to keep their mouths shut and to stop being sooks.

Geplaatst: **do okt 02, 2008 6:12 pm**

I too am pleased with Marco's ruthlessness.

Geplaatst: **do okt 02, 2008 6:25 pm**

Agree. One of the problems Ajax have had is too many primadonnas. I get the sense that Marco doesn't mind a player having a bit of an ego (in fact, he probably encourages it) but it shouldn't interfere with the team.

I must say, I'm liking him more and more with each passing day.

Geplaatst: **do okt 02, 2008 7:17 pm**

Bad time for a career to come to a screeching halt. He's injured and disgruntled at the same time. Does VVV Venlo need a keeper?

Geplaatst: **vr okt 03, 2008 6:47 am**

I thought he was dumped. Turns out he has a herniated disc and will be out for some time.

K.

Geplaatst: **vr okt 03, 2008 8:59 am**

Kowalczyk schreef:I thought he was dumped. Turns out he has a herniated disc and will be out for some time.

K.

herniated disc:
verb - The condition in which a person or persons make a statement which ends their career at a club. In some cultures can also be known as 'Dumped'.

Dumped
noun- a site for depositing garbage.

Geplaatst: **za jan 03, 2009 11:40 am**

Danny Blind in De Telegraaf: "One consequence of Hans Vonk's move to Heerenveen is that a transfer for Dennis Gentenaar is now out of the question."

K.

Geplaatst: **zo jan 04, 2009 12:11 am**

I place the odds of a non transferred, third choice, unhappy Gentenaar speaking out again as 2:5 in favor .

Geplaatst: **ma jan 05, 2009 9:23 pm**

Just to add that he may be injured but an 18 year old youth takes his place in Portugal. Surely we should let him go and look for another experienced reserve. We will need one next season as Vermeer will not stay as 2nd choice to Steks.

Geplaatst: **di jan 06, 2009 11:47 am**

And Steks possibly won't stay.

Geplaatst: **wo jan 07, 2009 12:11 pm**

According to newspaper Algemeen Dagblad Ajax have promised Dennis Gentenaar to look out for a new third goalie. If they find one, Gentenaar will be allowed to leave. If they don't find one, he'll have to stay.

Gentenaar seems well pissed off by this whole affair. He says that Ajax knew he wanted to leave in January, and that it's not fair that he is now the victim of the fact that Ajax let Hans Vonk go.

Again, in all honesty, I have to say that he has a point, kind of. He's not making things easy for himself, but I can't say he's talking bollocks.

K.

Geplaatst: **wo jan 07, 2009 1:02 pm**

Maybe, but at least Vonk found a new club.

Geplaatst: **wo jan 07, 2009 4:29 pm**

He does have a point, but if he would have kept his mouth shut in the first place he probably would have been allowed to go instead of Vonk. I can't imagine he's attracting too many suitors with his attitude and he's certainly not with Ajax.

I agree with the club, though, no need to let him go if we don't have a better 3rd goalie. Hopefully Padt can take that spot over and then Gentenaar can go, that would probably be best for everyone.