'J.C.' - The Omnipresent Oracle

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Re: 'J.C.' - The Omnipresent Oracle

Bericht door GangstaRiB » ma feb 07, 2011 8:59 pm

The rumours are correct. Ajax (the board) wants to setup three projectgroups who will investigate the follwing aspects: financial, technical and clubstructure.

And its said that Cruijff wants to lead the technical group.

For the first time he actually wants to be responsible...

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Re: 'J.C.' - The Omnipresent Oracle

Bericht door souras84 » ma feb 07, 2011 9:09 pm

lets hope what happens, leads to something good for the club
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Re: 'J.C.' - The Omnipresent Oracle

Bericht door aveslacker » di feb 08, 2011 9:16 am

GangstaRiB schreef:The rumours are correct. Ajax (the board) wants to setup three projectgroups who will investigate the follwing aspects: financial, technical and clubstructure.

And its said that Cruijff wants to lead the technical group.

For the first time he actually wants to be responsible...
I guess this means no Van Gaal, huh?
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Re: 'J.C.' - The Omnipresent Oracle

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aveslacker schreef:
GangstaRiB schreef:The rumours are correct. Ajax (the board) wants to setup three projectgroups who will investigate the follwing aspects: financial, technical and clubstructure.

And its said that Cruijff wants to lead the technical group.

For the first time he actually wants to be responsible...
I guess this means no Van Gaal, huh?
Nope. You can forget about Van Gaal. He is not going to return to Ajax (ever).

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Re: 'J.C.' - The Omnipresent Oracle

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GangstaRiB schreef:
aveslacker schreef:
GangstaRiB schreef:The rumours are correct. Ajax (the board) wants to setup three projectgroups who will investigate the follwing aspects: financial, technical and clubstructure.

And its said that Cruijff wants to lead the technical group.

For the first time he actually wants to be responsible...
I guess this means no Van Gaal, huh?
Nope. You can forget about Van Gaal. He is not going to return to Ajax (ever).
I wouldn't say that he's never going to return. It's just that he'll only return on his terms, and those terms might never be met by whomever is running Ajax. But there's always a chance.
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Re: 'J.C.' - The Omnipresent Oracle

Bericht door Manneken Pis » di feb 08, 2011 2:54 pm

GangstaRiB schreef:The rumours are correct. Ajax (the board) wants to setup three projectgroups who will investigate the follwing aspects: financial, technical and clubstructure.

And its said that Cruijff wants to lead the technical group.

For the first time he actually wants to be responsible...
Hmm .... First he'll have to actually join the projectgroup, and then he'll actually need to stay a member for the entire process, then he'll actually have to agree with the recommendations.

There's a long way to go in my view.....
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Re: 'J.C.' - The Omnipresent Oracle

Bericht door Kowalczyk » vr feb 11, 2011 8:20 am

Here we go: the official announcement...

http://english.ajax.nl/News/Archive/Art ... boards.htm

I have no clue what this means, exactly. But it sounds more 'solid' than Cruijff's previous return to the club. That was a bit of a joke; this time it looks like people actually gave it some thought.

K.
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Re: 'J.C.' - The Omnipresent Oracle

Bericht door souras84 » vr feb 11, 2011 12:48 pm

Good or bad, I still believe that he belongs to Ajax and not barcelona.
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Re: 'J.C.' - The Omnipresent Oracle

Bericht door Manneken Pis » vr feb 11, 2011 2:00 pm

Kowalczyk schreef:Here we go: the official announcement...

http://english.ajax.nl/News/Archive/Art ... boards.htm

I have no clue what this means, exactly. But it sounds more 'solid' than Cruijff's previous return to the club. That was a bit of a joke; this time it looks like people actually gave it some thought.

K.
Yeah, still seems pretty vague.

Anyway, the problem isn't getting JC to give his opinion, it's a question of whether anyone understands what it means .......

:smallgrin.gif:
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Re: 'J.C.' - The Omnipresent Oracle

Bericht door orange goblin » vr feb 11, 2011 2:13 pm

As far as I've understood, the first question the new technical platform (read: JC) has to decide, is if the club structure has to count on a technical manager - who should be a link between the team and the board, working at the same level with the coach (blind?) but leaving the decision to general director van den boog - or instead on a technical director, who would be in a superior, decisional level upon the coach and has power in all technical stuff. in this case the first names have already been spended by some reports today: hiddink, adriaanse, van gaal, arnesen the most quoted. would be nice.
we'll see :ajaxscarf.gif:
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Re: 'J.C.' - The Omnipresent Oracle

Bericht door aveslacker » vr feb 11, 2011 8:52 pm

Manneken Pis schreef:
Kowalczyk schreef:Here we go: the official announcement...

http://english.ajax.nl/News/Archive/Art ... boards.htm

I have no clue what this means, exactly. But it sounds more 'solid' than Cruijff's previous return to the club. That was a bit of a joke; this time it looks like people actually gave it some thought.

K.
Yeah, still seems pretty vague.

Anyway, the problem isn't getting JC to give his opinion, it's a question of whether anyone understands what it means .......

:smallgrin.gif:
If he wants you to understand, he'll explain it better. :ajaxsmiley.gif:
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Re: 'J.C.' - The Omnipresent Oracle

Bericht door Orange14 » vr feb 11, 2011 9:39 pm

aveslacker schreef:
Manneken Pis schreef:
Kowalczyk schreef:Here we go: the official announcement...

http://english.ajax.nl/News/Archive/Art ... boards.htm

I have no clue what this means, exactly. But it sounds more 'solid' than Cruijff's previous return to the club. That was a bit of a joke; this time it looks like people actually gave it some thought.

K.
Yeah, still seems pretty vague.

Anyway, the problem isn't getting JC to give his opinion, it's a question of whether anyone understands what it means .......

:smallgrin.gif:
If he wants you to understand, he'll explain it better. :ajaxsmiley.gif:
or, "You can understand it, once you get it!"
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Re: 'J.C.' - The Omnipresent Oracle

Bericht door Rooie » do mar 24, 2011 10:22 pm

'War' between Cruijff and our Board. Talks have failed and Cruijff is starting an official procedure to get rid of 'em.

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Re: 'J.C.' - The Omnipresent Oracle

Bericht door Orange14 » do mar 24, 2011 10:57 pm

Benji schreef:'War' between Cruijff and our Board. Talks have failed and Cruijff is starting an official procedure to get rid of 'em.
Ajax are listed on the stock exchange as a public company. Are all the shares publicly held? If so, the club must abide by normal corporation rules in The Netherlands and presumably the shareholders can vote the Board out. It would depend on what is in the charter of incorporation.
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Re: 'J.C.' - The Omnipresent Oracle

Bericht door acab » do mar 24, 2011 11:14 pm

Will i ever read a good news about this club since 2004? I'm getting more and more despered :rules.gif:

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Re: 'J.C.' - The Omnipresent Oracle

Bericht door Orange14 » vr mar 25, 2011 1:11 pm

Nice article by Bouwes on the controversy here: http://totalfootballnl.blogspot.com/201 ... l?spref=tw
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Re: 'J.C.' - The Omnipresent Oracle

Bericht door jamie » za mar 26, 2011 10:58 pm

Orange14 schreef:
Benji schreef:'War' between Cruijff and our Board. Talks have failed and Cruijff is starting an official procedure to get rid of 'em.
Ajax are listed on the stock exchange as a public company. Are all the shares publicly held? If so, the club must abide by normal corporation rules in The Netherlands and presumably the shareholders can vote the Board out. It would depend on what is in the charter of incorporation.
That wont work as 73% of the shares remain with Ajax. The only ones that can vote the board out are the Ajax members (leden).

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Re: 'J.C.' - The Omnipresent Oracle

Bericht door Orange14 » ma mar 28, 2011 12:25 pm

Appie Nouri will forever be remembered for his grace and humanity on and off the pitch!

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Re: 'J.C.' - The Omnipresent Oracle

Bericht door souras84 » ma mar 28, 2011 1:30 pm

Question... Can it get any WORSE if we support the Cruuyf party?
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Re: 'J.C.' - The Omnipresent Oracle

Bericht door rjf1 » ma mar 28, 2011 2:13 pm

Much as I dislike the board and its policies, the point that was made about his penchant for picking up and quitting in midstream is a cause for concern.

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Bericht door aveslacker » ma mar 28, 2011 2:38 pm

souras84 schreef:Question... Can it get any WORSE if we support the Cruuyf party?
It can always get worse. Look at how far 010 has fallen.
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Re: 'J.C.' - The Omnipresent Oracle

Bericht door Orange14 » wo mar 30, 2011 7:44 pm

From what I can read on de Telegraaf website, the Ajax Board did resign tonight. I hope one of our Dutch colleagues can provide further details on what is happening and the future steps to set up a new Board. With all that is going on I hope the team comes out strong on Sunday!
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Bericht door Cedric » wo mar 30, 2011 9:42 pm

What's happening? This. :liberty.gif:
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Re: 'J.C.' - The Omnipresent Oracle

Bericht door acab » wo mar 30, 2011 10:11 pm

I don't know what to tnink? Is this good? It's true, we aren;t going to be champions again, but i liked vd Boog and Coronel. So waht's next? Feyenoord, here we come, or 5 eurofinals agains Barca :confused.gif:

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