Former Ajax Coaches

Ayman · Bericht door **Ayman** » ma nov 05, 2007 11:18 am

Kowalczyk said:

(by the way: AZ will win in Eindhoven, next weekend...)

If I put money on all your predictions I would be broke by now!

Bericht door **Kowalczyk** » ma nov 05, 2007 12:51 pm

My Ajax predictions have been terrible so far, but my PSV predictions haven't been that far off, actually...

K.

Philippe · Bericht door **Philippe** » ma nov 12, 2007 6:27 pm

I assume this is the appropriate thread : good luck Wouters !

aveslacker · Bericht door **aveslacker** » di nov 13, 2007 3:32 pm

'Vooral vorig seizoen heeft Ten Cate twijfels uitgesproken. Hij reageerde vanuit emotie. Hij heeft daarvoor ook zijn excuses aangeboden. Koster is duidelijk. We besteden veel aandacht aan de tegenstander. Veel video-analyse. De vorige trainer deed dat bijna helemaal niet, met video.'

I copied this quote out of the Maduro thread in the Dutch langauge forum. Basically, Maduro is saying that:

Ten Cate expressed his doubts [about Maduro] a lot last season. He reacted out of emotion. He also apologized alot. Koster is obvious. We spend a lot of time thinking about the opponent. Lots of video-analysis. The last coach almost never used video.

This is kind of surprising, but it might explain why Ajax repeatedly failed to get results against teams that they should have crushed last season. And it is yet another reason why I am slightly optimistic about Adrie Koster.

carcajou · Bericht door **carcajou** » di nov 13, 2007 4:04 pm

aveslacker schreef:
'Vooral vorig seizoen heeft Ten Cate twijfels uitgesproken. Hij reageerde vanuit emotie. Hij heeft daarvoor ook zijn excuses aangeboden. Koster is duidelijk. We besteden veel aandacht aan de tegenstander. Veel video-analyse. De vorige trainer deed dat bijna helemaal niet, met video.'
I copied this quote out of the Maduro thread in the Dutch langauge forum. Basically, Maduro is saying that:

Ten Cate expressed his doubts [about Maduro] a lot last season. He reacted out of emotion. He also apologized alot. Koster is obvious. We spend a lot of time thinking about the opponent. Lots of video-analysis. The last coach almost never used video.

Sorry to nitpick, but I guess that duidelijk could be more translated more accurately to "clear", as in "Koster is clearer in his explanations".

Philippe · Bericht door **Philippe** » di nov 13, 2007 4:49 pm

glad HTC's gone, and I hope Chelsea will get rid of all their video equipment

btw Bertrand, I thought you could not understand Dutch ?

aveslacker · Bericht door **aveslacker** » di nov 13, 2007 8:30 pm

carcajou schreef:
aveslacker schreef:
'Vooral vorig seizoen heeft Ten Cate twijfels uitgesproken. Hij reageerde vanuit emotie. Hij heeft daarvoor ook zijn excuses aangeboden. Koster is duidelijk. We besteden veel aandacht aan de tegenstander. Veel video-analyse. De vorige trainer deed dat bijna helemaal niet, met video.'
I copied this quote out of the Maduro thread in the Dutch langauge forum. Basically, Maduro is saying that:

Ten Cate expressed his doubts [about Maduro] a lot last season. He reacted out of emotion. He also apologized alot. Koster is obvious. We spend a lot of time thinking about the opponent. Lots of video-analysis. The last coach almost never used video.
Yeah, that's a better translation. Thanks.

Sorry to nitpick, but I guess that duidelijk could be more translated more accurately to "clear", as in "Koster is clearer in his explanations".

carcajou · Bericht door **carcajou** » wo nov 14, 2007 2:54 am

philippe schreef:glad HTC's gone, and I hope Chelsea will get rid of all their video equipment

btw Bertrand, I thought you could not understand Dutch ?

I can decypher dutch to some extent, but that's not the point.... Just that "Koster is obvious" didn't make sense to me (my english being far from perfect), so I proof-checked on Babelfish, which in turn translated it as "clear". I then decided to post a message to let other people know about it. As simple as that.

aveslacker · Bericht door **aveslacker** » wo nov 14, 2007 4:10 pm

carcajou schreef:
philippe schreef:glad HTC's gone, and I hope Chelsea will get rid of all their video equipment

btw Bertrand, I thought you could not understand Dutch ?
I can decypher dutch to some extent, but that's not the point.... Just that "Koster is obvious" didn't make sense to me (my english being far from perfect), so I proof-checked on Babelfish, which in turn translated it as "clear". I then decided to post a message to let other people know about it. As simple as that.

Like I said, it was a quick translation. It makes a lot more sense as "clear" instead of "obvious."

Dat is duidelijk.

Cedric · Bericht door **Cedric** » di jan 08, 2008 2:32 pm

An article about Stefan Kovacs, "The man who took Ajax to new heights and the brink of destruction" : http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/ ... new_h.html

DanK · Bericht door **DanK** » do mar 13, 2008 10:35 pm

Salzburg hire Adriaanse to replace Trapattoni

VIENNA, March 13 (Reuters) - Austrian champions and league leaders Salzburg have hired Co Adriaanse to succeed Giovanni Trapattoni as coach next season, the club said on Thursday.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story ... et&cc=5739

Manneken Pis · Bericht door **Manneken Pis** » vr mar 28, 2008 8:30 pm

Van Gaal is leaving AZ at the end of the season according to NOS.

aveslacker · Bericht door **aveslacker** » vr mar 28, 2008 9:01 pm

I wonder if he'll ever make his way back to Ajax.

Manneken Pis · Bericht door **Manneken Pis** » za mar 29, 2008 8:54 am

Manneken Pis schreef:Van Gaal is leaving AZ at the end of the season according to NOS.

The Sport Journal on Ned3 last night described the latest goings on.

Apparently Louis v G and the owner had a heart to heart and decided to part at the end of the season (after what has always been seen as a love in for the last couple of years). LvG had blown up with the players after the morning training session and said he'd had enough.

Anyway, apparently the players were very upset about him leaving and have asked the owner to get Louis to stay. They have promised to pull their act together and improve to convince LvG to stay. LvG was said to be very touched and proud and has agreed to wait to see how the season finishes before confirming his departure.

Suffice it to say, AZ is a bit of a soap opera at the moment ....

gordonvandekamp · Bericht door **gordonvandekamp** » ma mar 31, 2008 4:03 pm

Regarding the AZ situation, that is one thing I am thankful for, that no matter how bad the situation is this year with Ajax, it still doesn't seem as bad as AZ's troubles. I for one, am particularly glad Ajax has been able to pretty much steer clear of the political infighting between players/coaches/management. For the most part, Ajax's problems seem to be mostly with the fans and management, and the team really has done well in spite of all the things this year. There's still a glimmer of hope

Manneken Pis · Bericht door **Manneken Pis** » do apr 17, 2008 7:59 pm

Ronald Koeman has won his first trophy with Valencia.
The King's Cup was won versus Getafe.
Makes things interesting as L'Equipe said he'd get fired today...

Players have been complaining he's not a very good coach, just like other club's.

Amazing when you look at his trophy cabinet and the think about the almost universal dislike the players and fans show from the teams he's managed.

Van basten · Bericht door **Van basten** » za apr 19, 2008 2:25 pm

Van Gaal stays at AZ for the next season

DanK · Bericht door **DanK** » di apr 22, 2008 7:44 am

Koeman axed by Valencia
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/koeman-a ... ia-110367/

SE6Ajacied · Bericht door **SE6Ajacied** » di apr 22, 2008 8:10 am

DanK schreef:Koeman axed by Valencia
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/koeman-a ... ia-110367/

He's a star isn't he

. No doubt he'll turn up at some other "ambitious" club next season anyway - some people just never stay down (and some club boards never look further than the nearest big name)

DanK · Bericht door **DanK** » wo mei 21, 2008 2:20 pm

Koeman spills all on Valencia
aka - Koeman has a sook.
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/koeman-s ... ia-118976/

The last line is a classic:
"If I had stayed with PSV I could have become the coach of Holland or Barcelona. I know I was on the shortlist of both."

God help Barca and/or the Dutch national team if that ever comes true.

Rubin Stark · Bericht door **Rubin Stark** » do mei 22, 2008 11:09 am

DanK schreef:Koeman spills all on Valencia
aka - Koeman has a sook.
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/koeman-s ... ia-118976/

The last line is a classic:
"If I had stayed with PSV I could have become the coach of Holland or Barcelona. I know I was on the shortlist of both."

God help Barca and/or the Dutch national team if that ever comes true.

Why is that? He's won something like seven titles or cups in eight years.

He's also the most successful Ajax manager since van Gaal...

Frans · Bericht door **Frans** » do mei 22, 2008 8:51 pm

Rubin Stark schreef:
DanK schreef:Koeman spills all on Valencia
aka - Koeman has a sook.
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/koeman-s ... ia-118976/

The last line is a classic:
"If I had stayed with PSV I could have become the coach of Holland or Barcelona. I know I was on the shortlist of both."

God help Barca and/or the Dutch national team if that ever comes true.
Why is that? He's won something like seven titles or cups in eight years.

He's also the most successful Ajax manager since van Gaal...

He's a master at surfing on the platform laid down by a previous coach; Co Adriaanse at Ajax, Hiddink at PSV. At Benfica they had won the league the previous year, Valencia was in the top 4 in Spain before he took over. Anyway, He has left every club in worse shape than it was when he arrived.

DanK · Bericht door **DanK** » ma mei 26, 2008 3:12 pm

Koster to snub Twente
http://theworldgame.sbs.com.au/koster-t ... te-119340/

Wasn't sure where to place this, as he's still at Ajax, but is also a former coach

Bericht door **Kowalczyk** » wo mei 28, 2008 9:03 am

Re-posting...

SE6Ajacied schreef:
SPL schreef:Ten Cate is likely to get the sack this week from Chelski.
apparently not - if you believe this story... http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/footbal ... 421741.stm

K.

gordonvandekamp · Bericht door **gordonvandekamp** » wo mei 28, 2008 5:48 pm

I can actually see ten Cate staying at Chelsea (although with Abramovich, he could be just as easily gone).

To me it seemed like at the time he was brought in because of his Barca connections (especially the ties to Rijkaard/Ronaldinho) and at least part of Chelsea's goal was to lure some of that talent away. With the way things have gone at Barca, it looks like they may have never needed him and people could be going that way this summer regardless.

I'm just glad he got see CL football from August to May and got knocked out twice.