Young Ajax

[orange goblin]

not even zeegelaar in your opinion, spl? I know huistra said he needs to train harder, but he seemed to me a pretty good prospect..

[SPL]

I think he will be loaned out to someone like AGOVV. Van der Meulen like Zeegelaar is the only other of those 9 who has a contract to 2011 and I think he will be loaned also.I had posted this last week as I do not see many of the current Jong making it .

We wont know about those 2 until July time but all the Jong whose contracts run to 2010 will be told whether they are going or staying by the end of this month .

[SPL]

Ajax have said today they want to reorganise the Jong to play the best 16 and 17 year olds.

Well that has to be good news . I do go on about the Jong and imo I do not know what we have achived out of the Jong team this season.Most of the time it consists of spare first teamers and that is not acceptable. Playing the odd first teamer who is out of form or needs a game after injury is ok but not playing spares who are earning a fortune and not good enough to get on the first team bench.

We have 19 current Jong but many of those were given 2 year contracts last season and are still not playing many games. True at least 7 of them would have spent the second half of the season with Haarlem. I may be wild of the mark but most of these wont make it .

Hardly any of the current youth team ie A1 are playing and in fact 3 of the Jong team ie Bizot Bonevacia and Castillion can still play for the A1 and have done so. They are not getting regular games for the Jong or the A1 and appear in limbo.

Marco Bizot the no 1 Dutch U19 goalie does not play much footy this season . Sergio Padt ,the Dutch U21 no 2 goalie hardly gets much playing time , this is wrong .

We now have most of the A1 under contract and in a lot of cases they are in their 2nd year . We have given 6 B1 's contracts but what is the point of giving youngsters contracts and then not playing them in the Jong team for 2years .

Are we wasting the current A1 ie Bonevacia and Castillion I have mentioned but Sneijder Van Rhijn Burnet Ebecilio and Jozefzoon are all talents coming to the end of their 2nd year as pros but should all be regular Jong players now.

The club needs to do something . Giving 2 year contracts to moderate youths ie 19 year olds should be stopped ,just give them 1 year max. As for youths u 18 well we are only giving them contracts too soon now to stop the likes of the child stealers from Arsenal and Chelsea taking them.

We should not be having players in the youth team who are 2nd year contracted pros. We should go back to giving youth contracts when they are about to finish at youth level or when we think they are ready for the Jong . If there is the odd talent ie Bouy in the B1 then sign him but surely he should be playing for the A1 and not B1.

Something has to change for next season and not just getting rid of a lot of fringe first teamers and fringe Jong . A real plan on bringing through youth needs to be bought in.

[aveslacker]

Totally agree. There's no reason for the likes of Silva or Wielaert to be playing in Jong Ajax.

[Blind3]

Short of injury, there's no reason for Silva or Wielaert to be playing...period !

[Orange14]

Short of injury, there's no reason for Silva or Wielaert to be playing...period !

Silva has been gone for over a month; loaned to a Brazilian team I believe.

[SPL]

Swap Ogararu for Silva.

[SPL]

Details of 3 Jong games played

8 march beat NEC 6-1

Verhoeven
Aslan, Bonevacia, Kappelhof, Shakison

Gabri(Supusepa 60) Overtoom , Aissati

Ozbiliz(Lazic 75), Suk , Sulejmani ,

scorers Suk 2 then he got a red card actually 2yellows. Sulejmani, Ozbiliz, Aissati and Bonevacia all 1each .


11 March , last thursday lost 3-0 to Vitesse.

Padt
Aslan, Kappelhof(60Danilo) Wielaert, Shakison(25 Supusepa)
Aissati, Bonevacia(sent off) Overtoom
Lazic(46 Zeegelaar), Jongebloet, Ozbiliz


this monday 15 March beat ADO 3-0

Verhoeven

Ogararu(Aslan90), V d Meulen,Wielaert, Will,

Aissati, Overtoom(Ozbiliz 70), Lodeiro(Danilo 87)

Sulejmani, Suk, Eriksen,

Scorers Lodeiro, Suk and Eriksen.

As it is now 18th they play Jong Fword tonight so that is 4games in under 2 weeks .

[SPL]

Good news the Jong beat Jong Fword/Excelsior today 2-0 V d Meulen and Danilo scored .

Nearly aproper Jong team

Padt
Aslan, Wielaert , V d Meulen,Will
Bonevacia, Aissati,Overtoom
Ozbiliz(65Ebecilio), Danilo(86 Candan) , Zeegelaar(71 Lazic)

Good grief Ebecilio is one of the contracted A1 players . About time some of them started playing .
V Rhijn should be in the team instead oof the waste of sapce called Wielaert . If this guy is not going to be in Ajax's squad when 2 CD are suspended then what is the point of playing him for the Jong . Still at least that other waste of space Kennedy did not get a game.

Table

Sparta played 20 39 points
Ajax played 20 37 points
Vitesse played 20 36 points

6 games to play and next up is PSV next monday .

[SPL]

Jong Ajax beat Jong PSV 2-0 . Good news .

Team and scorers nk will post them later.Hopefully 1or2 proper Jong may have got agame.

They are top at present

Ajax 40 points 21 played
Vitesse 39 points 21 played
Sparta 39 points 20 played .

[SPL]

Details just came up Suk and Lodeiro a penalty scored . Also Sparta lost tonight so they too have played 21 . and we are now top by 1 point with 5 to play .

Team

Verhoeven

Aslan, Kappelhof, V d Meulen,Will,

Bonevacia, Ozbiliz(75 Danilo), Lodeiro(83 Overtoom)

Aissati, Suk( 60 Zeegelaar), Sulejmani.

A young team except the goalie, Padt should be playing .Still at least Kennedy and Wielaert did not play .And the team still costs over 25m euros in transfers.

[Kowalczyk]

YOUNG AJAX FOR CHAMPIONS!!

Yay!

K.

[SPL]

Jong currently playing at home to Jong willem and they are losing 1-0 .

Vermeer

Ogararu, Kappelhof, V d Meulen, Will.

Overtoom, Ozbiliz, Lodeiro,

Sulejmani, Suk, Aissati .

A strong team so hope they can win .

[SPL]

1-1 Ozbiliz scored just before HT.. 60 mins gone .

[SPL]

Final score 2-2 Ozbiliz scored a second in 85 them Willem equalised on 90 .


subs used Bonevacia for Lodeiro and Supusepa for Will both 71 mins Jongebloet for Suk 81 mins



We are still top although Vitesse have a game in hand

Ajax 22 played 41 points
Sparta 22 40
Vitesse 21 39
PSV 21 37

[SPL]

Still nothing from Ajax regards the 12 Jong players whose contracts expire 30 June . If they are going to be released they had to be told before 1st April .

[SPL]

A bad day for the Jong . They lost 2-1 to de Graafschap. Zeegelaar scored the only goal .

A proper young team except Wielaert and Aissati

Padt

Aslan, Wielaert, Kappelhof(56 Claasen), Will,

Bonevacia, Overtoom, Aissati,

Ozbiliz(75 Jongebloet), Suk, Zeegelaar(81 Lazic)

Subs NU. Bizot,V dMeulen, Supusepa,and Candan.

Castillion is injured .Martina has dissappeared without trace!!!

Not sure of the current table but with 3 games to go they do not look as if they will win the title. I see a lot of those whose contracts expire in June are still playing .Nothing yet on who is going .

[SPL]

I did see that tomorrows game v Jong Fword is on TV so there should be a stream . Ko 18.30 CET . Sopcast with NVS should be the one .

[jamcocteau]

Jong Ajax 2 up against Jong Feyenoord at half time - just switched on tv to see Sulejmani grab the second

[SPL]

Game is on sopcast NVS1 . I got in just to watch the last 10 mins of the first half in the Arena with no crowd , very odd. 2 well taken goals by Kappelhof and Sulejmani

Verhoeven
Ogararu, Wielaert, Kappelhof, Will
Aissati, Bonevacia, Lodeiro
Eriksen, Suk, Sulejmani

That lot cost 30m euros , yesterdays team cost about 15m . A big joke . Lodeiro Eriksen Sulejmani and Suk all need a game to keep them match fit but Wielaert Ogagaru??? Vermeer ought to be getting match practice.

[jamcocteau]

Sorry but the joke is that Van Basten wasted the clubs money on some of these players and Jol unfortunately has had to carry the can.

Not to worry as a lot of them will be gone come the summer - Aissatti possibly back to PSV according to rumours, Sulejmani anywhere as long as somebody will take him and the others Wielaert and Ogararu will be freed I believe.

[jamcocteau]

Sok just made it 3-0, similar scoreline this sunday would be nice

[jamcocteau]

3 0 final score

[SPL]

I enjoyed watching it but with 8 first team squad is was hard to judge the proper Jong as there were only 3 of them. Will looks useful and can play right and left back.Kappelhof had a good headed goal but the defence had little to do in the hour I watched . Eriksen went off having taken a knock on his head but did not look serious . Subs used for the record Overtoom for Eriksen on 84 and Danilo for Suk on 86.

A very easy win but with 30m of players you would expect a win .Only 2 more games to go .At this stage of the season some of the 11 or so A1 players with contracts should be getting some playing time but that is not going to happen .

[SPL]

Sparta 46 points
Ajax 44 points
PSV 43 points all have 2 to play .

We have Helmond Sports and Twente.