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philippe schreef:Something stinks about some fans lack of support for El Hamdaoui.
It seems hardly arguable that we would have been better off with him yesterday against S.Moscow.
aveslacker schreef:More like, "Holy shit! We need someone who can score!"Orange14 schreef:Is it a negotiation or more like "...my way or the highway?"Kowalczyk schreef:Peace negotiations with Frank de Boer will start on Monday!
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bluedaddy19 schreef: the management has murdered our season
Unless the two of you are going to pony up €50M to buy some new players you better find another team to support. The money isn't there and the economics of the Dutch league are not going to make it mysteriously appear. To say this is management's fault is a gross over simplification of something that has been creeping up on this team for ten years now. It's not going to be remedied by a prayer that we are going to buy the next great striker or defender. I would urge you to back and look at the individual player postings on this forum and you can read how excited everyone was about the purchase/transfer of El Hamdaoui, Oleguer, Atouba, Wielaert, etc., etc.philippe schreef:bluedaddy19 schreef: the management has murdered our season
Yes ! Fuck them !
Who the hell do you think you are, yesman ?Orange14 schreef:Unless the two of you are going to pony up €50M to buy some new players you better find another team to support.philippe schreef:bluedaddy19 schreef: the management has murdered our season
Yes ! Fuck them !
Hardly a yes man, and someone who has followed the club both in person and from afar since 1970 (lived in the country for two years doing a science fellowship in the 1970s as well). I think if you carefully read this: http://swissramble.blogspot.com/search/label/Ajax you will understand the predicament the club is in. The big factor is that we will never be able to generate the type of revenue needed to make the kind of purchases that we all (including me) want. The television revenue is the defining factor (we can buy all the shirts, mugs and other Ajax merchandise until our homes are a veritable shrine but it's still a drop in the bucket, and yes I do buy new shirts frequently).philippe schreef:
Who the hell do you think you are, yesman ?
But there is some truth in what you say. We must be idiots to support a club knowing its managers are more concerned by its P&L than by sport trophies.
Who could have predicted that our two top keepers would get hurt? That's just bad luck. I think everyone on this forum knew that Suarez was going to leave in January and most blame the club for not coming up with the replacement. Maybe their thinking was El Hamdaoui was the player, I don't know and of course Jol had a lot to do with the choice (according to some El Hamdaoui has always been a difficult player for management; in retrospect it would have been nice to keep Pantelic but I can understand the thinking of not giving an over 30 player a multi-year contract). Too bad we did not go after Luuk de Jong when he was available. I don't think there were many options in January.philippe schreef:I already did read this article which is very interesting indeed.
The point is IMO that no matter what we will never be able to do with home grown players only. As we always did, now and then we have to get players from other clubs.
And at the time when we sold Suarez and Emanuelson, we needed new blood. Right away.
In addition we had bad luck with the El Hamdaoui's case, who has already taken too long to solve, and with Stekelenburgs injury.
Toby states today that we would have won the title with Suarez and Emanuelson. Sure. But they're gone. We might have had a chance without them but with El Hamdaoui playing, and with another goalie.
Minor correction, match is in two weeks because of the Euro Qualifiers this weekend. I agree that he should be supported and I hope he realizes he has been put on notice!philippe schreef:El Hamdaoui is back. He will play next Sunday against Heracles. Let’s support him !
Third time this season for him.... good luck.souras84 schreef:Gooooood time to answer and prove everything to us. Lets hope he will silence us
Stranger things have happened. Here's how it plays out. PSV and Twente play to a boring 0-0 draw. We pick up 2 points on each. Feyenoord takes revenge for the 10-0 thrashing as Castignos gets a hat trick and they win 3-0. We are now 1 point behind going into the final match day. We thrash Twente as El Hamdaoui has the match of his life and PSV draw with Groningen. That presumes we can beat the other teams on our schedule which is not a given.SPL schreef:wont make up 6 points to get the title.
We have a saying that originated here in the late 1970s when our pro basketball team won the NBA championship. The were facing elimination and the coach was asked about this; his reply, "the opera's not over until the fat lady sings." We went on to win the championship and there were tee shirts printed up pretty quickly with this statement. You are right I am an optimist but also suspect you are correct.SPL schreef:I can see you are an optimist. Mind a draw between the top 2 and us beating Heracles will mean we are only 4 points off the top so I supose anything can happen.I still see us on the last day playing Twente for 2nd place but lets see. At least we will have a proper striker playing again.
Orange14 schreef:Unless the two of you are going to pony up €50M to buy some new players you better find another team to support. The money isn't there and the economics of the Dutch league are not going to make it mysteriously appear. To say this is management's fault is a gross over simplification of something that has been creeping up on this team for ten years now. It's not going to be remedied by a prayer that we are going to buy the next great striker or defender. I would urge you to back and look at the individual player postings on this forum and you can read how excited everyone was about the purchase/transfer of El Hamdaoui, Oleguer, Atouba, Wielaert, etc., etc.philippe schreef:bluedaddy19 schreef: the management has murdered our season
Yes ! Fuck them !
For me, I would rather see the efforts bolstered around our youth program and some cooperative agreements with some Danish teams who want our system to polish their young players. We are not going to be in a position of buying players to fill gaps in our lineup (barring some rich oil money coming our way)
Almeida33 schreef:
I myself have been pining for the club to go out and spend on a striker, but in reality there is not a cost effective answer out there. Frank doesn't like El Hamdaoui because: He is not a 'team' player. In the role Frank asks of a CF he wants a selfless runner who can hold it up, link play, while keeping the rhythm and pace of the attack. Then run into the box to hopefully finish the chance.
and under the manager who we all thought was the next coming of JC!!!! Goes to show how much everyone on this board knows.Cedric_AeF schreef:It was indeed much better when the "three european cup play caliber attackers" played together.
