Other Eredivisie Teams

[ozzerdibazio]

I was just wondering. Why did Stanley Menzo quit Volendam?

[GangstaRiB]

I was just wondering. Why did Stanley Menzo quit Volendam?

Stanley is one of those coaches who know that they have to leave if the magic has expired. Menzo was in his first season not that succesful at Volendam. And the Volendam supporters are just like Ajax-supporters, they want to win the Eredivisie championship and even want to win the Champions League (and even when they win it, they are negative because the score wasn't 7-0 or something).... but as you can understand: far too little village, far to little money... but the expectations are HIGH. No-one can live up to the expectations of the average Volendam supporter. So in his first season (which was o.k. for Volendam's situation) he got critics from the always negative crowd. And then he already made up his mind, he wanted to leave the next year, despite of the results.. And he could have never predicted that Volendam would become champions of the first division... So its pretty ironic, but you have to give it to Menzo, he never changed his standpoint.

No he's just waiting for an eredivisie club that certainly wants to have his quality's.

[ozzerdibazio]

Thanks for the response. He's always seemed like a sound guy, and he's young. Hope he's got a good future ahead of him.

I never realised Volendam were a miniature Ajax. It's kinda funny they have such overblown expectations. Like you say it's ironic Menzo was a sucess, because now they are in the Eredivisie with - Frans Adelaar. Not knocking the guy, but i'd rather have a young dynamic coach like Menzo.

It all goes full circle in the end as they say - even in Volendam.

[gordonvandekamp]

Twente have drawn Arsenal in the Champion's League qualifiers. I guess that's a good prize for winning the playoffs. They will be out as quick as we were the last few years it seems. Unfortunately, probably not doing any favors for the Dutch UEFA coefficient. Hopefully we can help that with a good run in the UEFA cup.

[Cedric]

I guess there're happy in Eindhoven...

[Blind3]

Tough loss for F-word to a Borussia Dortmund side that defeated Bayern last week in some sort of pre-season cup match.

[Manneken Pis]

Nice attitude from Reker....

PSV Chairman hopes for FC Twente elimination in Champions League

Ecrit par: Jonathan Roorda

EINDHOVEN (SW) - PSV chairman Jan Reker prefers for fellow Dutch side FC Twente to be eliminated by Arsenal in the third preliminary round of the Champions League, as it would be better 'financially'.

In an interview with 'De Telegraaf', known in the Netherlands as a scandal-seeking newspaper, Reker reveals that he hoped for a tough draw for Twente.

"If Twente make it to the group phase, they will get 45 percent and we, as champions, would have to do with 55 percent," said the club president.

The elimination from Twente would earn PSV an additional nine million Euros in this season's Champions League, enough reason to put aside chauvinism, according to Reker.

"For Twente it would be a shame, financially. But for Dutch football it wouldn't matter, maybe it's even better. The points you earn in the UEFA Cup are just as important as the ones you earn in the Champions League."

By the way is that thing at the end true (points in the UEFA Cup have the same importance as the Champs League)? I think that's bollocks...

[Jeroen126]

Nope, it's the truth.

[jamcocteau]

Fey are 2 down to Celtic after 15 mins

[Blind3]

Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink scored two v. F-word. OUCH!!

[Kowalczyk]

This is the Eredivisie table 2008-2009, as published on VI.nl...

ADO Den Haag fans might want to print it out and put it up on the wall. They're currently the league leaders and they will stay tops until August 29th (the day the league starts). After that they won't see this again.



1 ADO 0 0
2 AJA 0 0
3 AZ 0 0
4 FEY 0 0
5 GRA 0 0
6 GRO 0 0
7 HEE 0 0
8 HER 0 0
9 NAC 0 0
10 NEC 0 0
11 PSV 0 0
12 RJC 0 0
13 SPA 0 0
14 TWE 0 0
15 UTR 0 0
16 VIT 0 0
17 VOL 0 0
18 WIL 0 0

K.

[Kowalczyk]

So, FC Twente play Arsenal tonight at the Gelredome in Arnhem (their own Arke Stadium in Enschede will have pretty much the same capacity when it's finished, but it's not). Here's a video of Steve McLaren's first press conference for an official Twente game...

http://www.fctwente.nl/images/upload/fi ... rsenal.wmv

It's been a while since we had an English head-coach in the Eredivisie, by the way.

K.

[Van basten]

PSV won super cup, they beat F-word 2-0 tonight

[Snyde]

The good, the bad and the Eredivisie
How bad is the Dutch league?

It’s a question various punters and thinkers have been mooching over in cyberspace’s most cavernous recesses.

The evidence that the Eredivisie is as dire as Police Academy 4: Citizens On Patrol is so scanty that even James Woods’ superheroic prosecutor Shark would struggle to persuade a jury.

In essence, it rests on two premises:

1. Many Eredivisie teams are so rubbish Ajax and PSV can run up cricket scores against them.

2. Because of this, Ajax and PSV, accustomed to playing only a handful of truly competitive games a season, stumble in Europe. PSV’s glorious run to the 2005 UEFA Champions League semi-finals already seems to belong to a bygone era. That’s one problem with football today. The hype is so unremitting that time – especially remembered time – is being accelerated.

The first point is actually true and should be borne in mind by any scout inclined to recommend the expensive purchase of an Eredivisie striker. Okay, Ruud van Nistelrooy, Romario and Ronaldo all came good, but there is always the risk that you’re buying the new Mateja Kezman.

In 10 out of 17 league home games last season, Ajax scored four or more goals. In four of those matches in the Amsterdam Arena, they put five or six past their hapless opponents. They weren’t as consistently free-scoring on the road but they made up for that by humbling De Graafschap 8-1.

That wasn’t even the widest margin of victory: Heerenveen beat Heracles 9-0 last October with Afonso Alves scoring seven. Alves has since moved to Middlesbrough where he has proved especially prolific against teams from Manchester. If the Brazilian striker played United and City week in week out - on last season’s form - he’d average 95 goals a season.

The goalscoring madness didn’t even end there. Heerenveen also beat Vitesse 7-0. Utrecht scored seven (against Sparta Rotterdam), while Feyenoord, Sparta Rotterdam and Willem II bagged six in a game and Groningen, Heracles, NEC, PSV and Roda all ran up five goals in a match.

The second point is also true. Ajax didn’t even make it to the qualifying rounds of the 2008/09 UEFA Champions League (knocked out by FC Twente before Macca arrived with his imperfect Dutch accent) while PSV have, post-Hiddink, done well if they reach the last eight.

But you know what? I don’t care. Stuff the purists.

In my sadder days, the highlight of my weekend was the Sunday afternoon massacre when, live on Sky Sports (as it was then), Rangers or Celtic would thoroughly demolish a minnow from the SPL.

And this season I’ll be tuning in, whenever the conclusion of successful domestic diplomatic negotiations over TV access allows, to watch Marco van Basten’s Ajax in the fervent hope they play more like the brilliant Oranje of the Euro 2008 group stages than the dismal Oranje of the 2006 World Cup.

Ajax averaged a mere 2.76 goals a game last season. At home, that average soared to 3.35.

Which, to me, is kind of the point. Every year, Richard Keys and his army of cohorts bill the Premier League as the best in the world. But wouldn’t life be more enjoyable if England had the most entertaining league in the world.

In Europe, it’s hard to beat the Eredivisie (although the Bundesliga runs it close) for sheer fun. Ligue 1, where often nothing happens in the first 20 minutes of a game (and by nothing I mean no shots, no corners, no discernible attempts to score a goal) should pay heed.

“Give the people something to enjoy” was Sir Matt Busby’s motto.

In a game increasingly vexed by stupid, megalomaniacal tycoons, hysterical tabloid exclusives and the economic imperative to win, Busby’s maxim may be the game’s best hope of avoiding death by hype.

[aveslacker]

I look forward to the day when Ajax win a match by an innings and 250 runs.

[Tom_]

I look forward to the day when Ajax win a match by an innings and 250 runs.

Haha, nice

[gordonvandekamp]

Here's one for you Dutch regarding McLaren:

The former England boss has certainly made an impression in Holland - and has also become something of a celebrity on YouTube, where an interview in which he speaks English with a Dutch accent has received more than 150,000 hits.

However, the Yorkshireman brushed off the suggestions of a comedy turn. He quipped: 'Well at least I am speaking English.

'It is just the way it is here (in Holland). It is so Dutch people can understand.'

I guess no one there would be able to understand his English without the accent.

[Blind3]

Way to go Steve ! Way to insult people who speak english better than you.

[Cedric]

Arsenal 4, Twente 0 : Welcome down to Earth Tukkers...

[Blind3]

Interesting to hear if McCloggy will resort to his accent to try to help Tukker supporters understand 6:0 on aggregate.

[dws]

Interesting to hear if McCloggy will resort to his accent to try to help Tukker supporters understand 6:0 on aggregate.

I doubt if Twente fans expected anything much different. Twente was without a central striker for this match - no Nkuffo or Arnautovic. You can't expect any other type of result when the team playing catch up carries zero goal threat at central striker.

[SE6Ajacied]

Interesting to hear if McCloggy will resort to his accent to try to help Tukker supporters understand 6:0 on aggregate.

I doubt if Twente fans expected anything much different. Twente was without a central striker for this match - no Nkuffo or Arnautovic. You can't expect any other type of result when the team playing catch up carries zero goal threat at central striker.

Well I'm sure they didn't expect to win the game and perhaps didn't expect even to score, but 4-0 is a heavy defeat whichever way you look at it.......

[Kowalczyk]

The Dutch clubs' opponents in the first round of the UEFA Cup:

AJAX - FK Borac (Serbia)
Kalmar FF (Sweden) - Feyenoord
Stade Rennes (France) - FC Twente
Vitória Setubal (Portugal) - SC Heerenveen
NEC - Dinamo Bucharest (Romania)

K.

[dws]

PSV leading Utrecht by 3 to 0 at the break at Galgenwaard. Goals two and three were nicely gift wrapped and presented to PSV just minutes before half time.

[Venezuelan Ajacied]

5-1 final result good spanking for the Thugs...hope we can do the same